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Only half a year after the sad ending in Afghanistan, it is stunning to watch America again contemplate going to war for some abstract purpose far removed from our own core interests. And this time it is the risk of a nuclear exchange to remind us of our mistake, not just an inglorious departure from Kabul.
For weeks, day after day stories in the MSM about Ukrainians fleeing the Russians. Can you remember ever hearing anything about ethnic Russians fleeing from the Ukrainians in 2014 and 2015? There were over 2 million of them.
Propaganda can also be by deliberate omission of significant facts.
Russia has twice in the last century been invaded through Ukraine. Anybody in our "news" bother to remind us of that?
richwicks saysRussia has twice in the last century been invaded through Ukraine. Anybody in our "news" bother to remind us of that?
Russia held Ukraine and a huge chunk of Eastern Europe behind a fucking concrete wall for nearly half a century stunting generations of people to the failures of Totalitarian Marxism while sending millions to the Gulag. (Not to mention the millions killed in the Ukraine by Stalin during the 1930's Red Famine)
They also spread their Marxist poison to all corners of the world (Asia, Africa, Middle East, South/Central America) fucking up more human life for generations.
Assuming you are older than 20 - do you have no memory of this?
Or is all that history just fake news like all of the Marxist professors in US Academia claim?
Politics and diplomacy means having to deal with shit in a responsible and strategical manner.
They also spread their Marxist poison to all corners of the world (Asia, Africa, Middle East, South/Central America) fucking up more human life for generations.
richwicks saysRussia has twice in the last century been invaded through Ukraine. Anybody in our "news" bother to remind us of that?
Russia held Ukraine and a huge chunk of Eastern Europe behind a fucking concrete wall for nearly half a century stunting generations of people to the failures of Totalitarian Marxism while sending millions to the Gulag. (Not to mention the millions killed in the Ukraine by Stalin during the 1930's Red Famine)
They also spread their Marxist poison to all corners of the world (Asia, Africa, Middle East, South/Central America) fucking up more human life for generations.
Assuming you are older than 20 - do you have no memory of this?
mell saysPolitics and diplomacy means having to deal with shit in a responsible and strategical manner.
Agreed - but Putin invading Ukraine and getting tens of thousands of people killed and threatening nukes and WWIII is not a "responsible or strategic" move to counter the so-called "threat" of Ukraine having closer economic ties to the EU and the US.
There is no historical, moral or even strategic justification for this level of violence and mayhem perpetrated by Putin.
The US has also fucked up human lives for generations.
The Russian government is bad, but the US government no longer has any claim to the moral high ground.
Cuban Missile crisis and that happened because the US was placing nuclear arms in Turkey. We've already gone through this bullshit before.
We already had our spectacular mass failure of the vaxx, but the long-term increase in death and illness from the vaxx is still in progress and still censored by the corporate media.
It is 2022 and the Russians are no longer Commies - right?
WTF is Putin paranoid about in 2022?
He gives 2 shits about human life as he is sending thousands of Russians into the Ukrainian wood chipper and cowardly using artillery on civilian centers because the Russian military is too weak to secure the cities
So spare me the shit Russian claims about "Nazis" killing thousands in Donbass and Crimea justifying Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
The US is not perfect, but compared to the mountains of dead people the Totalitarians and Communists in Russia and China have piled up since WWII - it is not even close. Not the same sport, league or planet. We are talking 10,000 to 1 in body counts and death and destruction. The US didn't lock our people behind walls for 50+ years and send millions to Gulags.
Even Iraq and Afghanistan - the vast majority of the deaths were Muslims killing Muslims settling religious, sectarian and tribal scores. The US toppled the regimes in a few days using a scalpel.
The US didn't shell and lay siege to massive cities like the Russians are doing now in Ukraine either.
The US is not perfect, but compared to the mountains of dead people the Totalitarians and Communists in Russia and China have piled up since WWII - it is not even close.
I think it is close, and US may well be worse than Russia or China.
https://technofog.substack.com/p/ukraine-maternity-hospital-shelling?s=r&source=patrick.net
Not clear what happened there. Ukraine has a big motive to prevaricate.
I think it is close, and US may well be worse than Russia or China.
How many violent conflicts has the US started since WWII?
Again, see that tremendous reduction in death from all wars since America became a superpower and became World Cop. Sure America has "meddled" far outside it's borders, but the net ledger is positive. Not only in massive reduction of death from all wars, but also the tremendous reduction in extreme poverty world wide.
https://technofog.substack.com/p/ukraine-maternity-hospital-shelling?s=r&source=patrick.net
Not clear what happened there. Ukraine has a big motive to prevaricate.
The war ends as soon as Ukraine agrees not to join NATO, quits bombing Donbass, and gives up Crimea.It doesn't bother you that your points been debunked time after time. It almost like playing wack-a-mole: smack it on the nose, it disappears, and then reappears in a different hole.
richwicks saysThe war ends as soon as Ukraine agrees not to join NATO, quits bombing Donbass, and gives up Crimea.It doesn't bother you that your points been debunked time after time. It almost like playing wack-a-mole: smack it on the nose, it disappears, and then reappears in a different hole.
richwicks saysThe war ends as soon as Ukraine agrees not to join NATO, quits bombing Donbass, and gives up Crimea.It doesn't bother you that your points been debunked time after time.
https://technofog.substack.com/p/ukraine-maternity-hospital-shelling?s=r&source=patrick.netRussia already reacted. Regretfully, they haven't even internally synchronized their narrative. "Russia 1" and Solovyov (state-approved TV persona) gave conflicting messages: one said that it was Ukraine that bombed it, the other said that it was Russia but it was occupied by militant UkroNazis.
Not clear what happened there. Ukraine has a big motive to prevaricate.
Oh? Post a link to one of my points being debunked please. I don't remember this happening.I debunked NATO argument multiple times here. Are you saying that you've never seen it? Now you have.
I believe you to be a dishonest, dishonorable person but everybody should draw their own conclusions and not just adopt them from other people.
That's not what he's saying. What he's saying:
1. NATO. NATO had >8 year to enroll Ukraine. It didn't happen. I call BS
2. Bombing Donbass. It was Russia that started hybrid war in Donbass. He runs his mouth on and on about Ukraine bombing Donbass and not a peep about Donbass bombing Ukraine. When he talks about Ukraine bombing Donbass, he applies none of the critical filters regarding video (or other) materials that he applies to the other side.
3. Gives up Crimea. It already did. At least "for all practical purposes". Ukraine had no leverage to get Crimea back,
1. NATO. NATO had >8 year to enroll Ukraine. It didn't happen. I call BS
Then have Ukraine agree not to join NATOWhy? NATO already demonstrated that it's not interested. Answer: because it's a BS demand.
Stop the conflict in Donbass, and take away Russia's complaint about it.
Then put it into writing in a treaty and strip Russia of yet another complain and reason for this stupid conflict.Russia annexed Crimea. Ukraine had no practical ways to get it back. Yet Putin starts war because Ukraine doesn't sign a treaty. Riight.
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