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322   richwicks   2022 Nov 29, 5:11pm  

Patrick says

OK, it's kind of a good time for this, since I was planning to merge the database tables for original threads and comments so that search could be unified. Right now there are separate tables and it's a pain.

After they are unified, then there can be just one kind of search, and one kind of pinning.


Can I make a suggestion?

Make a PARALLEL system to start with if you're about to do an overhaul. If the underlying database isn't changing, you can run two interfaces at the same time on top of the DB.

Also - BACKUP.
323   Patrick   2022 Nov 29, 5:17pm  

I do have a reasonable daily backup system I think. Worst case, one day is lost. Eventually I hope to have all comments immediately mirrored to a different server, but that's time, money, etc.

For the db migration, I plan to take every thread, make the text of it a comment, and have that thread just be a kind of skeleton which just has a bit of metadata and points to the original post content in the comments table.

So everything is going to be a comment. A "thread" will just be a wrapper around the first comment, which is the original post.

The whole site should look and work pretty much the same, except that search and pinning will be just one thing instead of two.
324   richwicks   2022 Nov 29, 5:22pm  

Patrick says

I do have a reasonable daily backup system I think. Worst case, one day is lost. Eventually I hope to have all comments immediately mirrored to a different server, but that's time, money, etc.

For the db migration, I plan to take every thread, make the text of it a comment, and have that thread just be a kind of skeleton which just has a bit of metadata and points to the original post content in the comments table.

So everything is going to be a comment. A "thread" will just be a wrapper around the first comment, which is the original post.

The whole site should look and work pretty much the same, except that search and pinning will be just one thing instead of two.


Again if you like (and you probably don't), I can help you clone this machine and you can run it locally for development. Setting up a website in your home is easy, but the name of the site will change, and you'll need to open ports on your router, and to setup let's encrypt. I can show you how to do all that.
325   Patrick   2022 Nov 29, 6:28pm  

Thanks, but I've got this, no problem.
326   richwicks   2022 Nov 29, 7:06pm  

Patrick says

Thanks, but I've got this, no problem.


Well, I can see you're using Let's Encrypt still and have the script running for it.

Setting up your router to allow 80 and 443 passthrough is all you need to do to test locally at home - and REALLY you don't need that OR Let's Encrypt unless you plan to allow access by the wider world.

All you need to do is clone the virtual machine. To do that, setup a VM that is CLOSE to what you have here, and then use sudo apt --installed to get a list of packages you need and/or are missing.

SMTP won't work though, that's a BITCH to setup on anything other than an "approved" server.
327   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:24pm  

I reformatted thread lists (home page, author list, search results) to always have the user icon in the thread summary.

Also, the first image is much larger, and more of the text is included.
328   rocketjoe79   2022 Dec 5, 3:28pm  

Noticed the HUGE IMAGES and I liked it better the other way. I have to scroll a lot more to read the next set of thread titles. Compact is better!
329   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:42pm  

OK, I'll make them smaller.
330   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:45pm  

@rocketjoe79

How about now?
331   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:48pm  

Heck, I just removed images from post lists entirely, except for the author icons.

Cleaner, but then the site looks like mostly text.
332   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 3:58pm  

Actually, all of those changes sucked.

Reverted everything, so site is back how it was.
333   rocketjoe79   2022 Dec 5, 4:13pm  

Looks great again!
334   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Dec 5, 4:17pm  

rocketjoe79 says


Looks great again!


make patnet great again!!!

didn’t want to miss an opportunity to say that
335   Hircus   2022 Dec 8, 8:13am  

@patrick

I noticed if I make a comment, then click edit, then submit my edited text, I get a "no such comment" error. It does however save my updated comment ok.
336   Onvacation   2022 Dec 8, 8:20am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

make patnet great again!!!

When was it not great?
337   Patrick   2022 Dec 8, 9:26am  

Hircus says


patrick

I noticed if I make a comment, then click edit, then submit my edited text, I get a "no such comment" error. It does however save my updated comment ok.


Thanks Hircus, definitely a recently introduced bug.
338   Patrick   2022 Dec 8, 10:13am  

@Hircus should be fixed now.
339   Patrick   2022 Dec 14, 3:20pm  

Image tagging was broken for a while. Fixed now.
340   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Dec 14, 8:26pm  

Onvacation says


FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


make patnet great again!!!

When was it not great?



always great, but we just keep making it great
341   Patrick   2022 Dec 15, 5:25pm  

Left and right arrow keys now cause navigation to previous and next page of threads or comments.
342   HeadSet   2022 Dec 15, 5:31pm  

Patrick says

Left and right arrow keys now cause navigation to previous and next page of threads or comments.

Now you tell me. I just got taken off a page I was typing when I used an arrow key to move the cursor.
343   Patrick   2022 Dec 15, 5:33pm  

Oh shit.

Thanks for telling me @HeadSet

So what I need to do is detect that the text box is not selected. Or maybe I should just drop this whole idea.
344   Patrick   2022 Dec 15, 5:53pm  

@HeadSet

OK, now I detect that the text box is not selected before using the l/r arrow keys to navigate.

Please let me know if it's still broken in some way.
345   HeadSet   2022 Dec 16, 7:13am  

Works perfectly!
346   Patrick   2022 Dec 16, 3:21pm  

You can now upload pdfs from your local computer. The result will be a link that says "view pdf" that people can click on to see it, like this:

view pdf

You can change that link text if you like to make it more descriptive of what you uploaded.

The same 10MB limit applies, as with images and videos.
347   DhammaStep   2022 Dec 28, 5:02am  

I have a suggestion of a feature I actually saw on another site that I think might be good for Patnet and Patrick's sanity. I don't use Twitter, I use Nitter to read twitter posts. On thing I've noticed on Nitter is that YouTube links are redirected through: https://redirect.invidious.io/ which supposedly doesn't track you like YouTube would. I'm not an even intermediate in computer wizardry, so it's probably way more work than I imagine it is.

It's still a good site regardless. I keep coming back, right?
348   Onvacation   2022 Dec 28, 5:26am  

DhammaStep says

I don't use Twitter

I just signed up!

Twitter has a lot of "anti-vaxers" now.
349   Patrick   2022 Dec 28, 10:48am  

Please follow me there, though I suspect my new account is already shadow banned because search auto-complete for patrick_dot_net does not work, even if you type "patrick_dot_ne" up to but missing the last "t".

https://twitter.com/patrick_dot_net?ref_src=patrick.net
350   charlie303   2023 Jan 6, 9:55pm  

Better way to embed videos and tweets

351   Patrick   2023 Jan 6, 10:02pm  

@charlie303 True, I don't do anything when someone posts a YouTube link except make it clickable. I don't trust Google, nor their subsidiary YouTube.

If I were to let them embed an html frame on patrick.net, then they would have vastly expanded powers to spy on what users are viewing. I don't think they allow plain video tags with YouTube as the source.

But for Rumble and some other sites I do trust, I transform a link into a video tag, because they allow that and because it doesn't give up much info about patrick.net users.
352   charlie303   2023 Jan 6, 10:08pm  

Patrick says

charlie303 True, I don't do anything when someone posts a YouTube link except make it clickable. I don't trust Google, nor their subsidiary YouTube.

If I were to let them embed an html frame on patrick.net, then they would have vastly expanded powers to spy on what users are viewing. I don't think they allow plain video tags with YouTube as the source.

But for Rumble and some other sites I do trust, I transform a link into a video tag, because they allow that and because it doesn't give up much info about patrick.net users.


Fair enough.

I try to type a description for YouTube videos but I just feel a clickable thumbnail is more eye catching.
I will learn more about the HTML commands iFrame and embed.

Thanks
353   Patrick   2023 Jan 25, 4:38pm  

I put "instant comments" back in, in a simplified way.

So if you have a thread open, and there is a new comment on it, you'll see the new comment without reloading the page.

I used to have a separate websocket server for this, but it was ugly and didn't work that well. Now I just have a poll going on in javascript, so each 10 seconds, the open page checks whether there were any new comments within the last 10 seconds, and if so appends them to the comments, just above the comment box.

Let me know if you see any bugs.
354   Patrick   2023 Jan 25, 5:49pm  

I added a red dot to the tab when there is a new comment, so if you have multiple threads open in multiple tabs, you can see when there are new comments in any of them.

The dot goes away on page reload, or when you make a comment, which is also a page reload.
355   Patrick   2023 Jan 26, 2:33pm  

Patrick says

Please follow me there, though I suspect my new account is already shadow banned because search auto-complete for patrick_dot_net does not work, even if you type "patrick_dot_ne" up to but missing the last "t".

https://twitter.com/patrick_dot_net?ref_src=patrick.net


https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1618667912377810945?ref_src=patrick.net


Dave Rubin
@RubinReport

Accounts aren’t just hit with labels that are obvious to insiders. They now found more “secret” labels which are causing shadowbans. My account was hit with all three; “Recent abuse strike,” “Recent misinformation strike”, “Recent suspension strike.”
356   richwicks   2023 Feb 12, 10:47pm  

I have a suggestion for having categories.

I follow a bunch of little known people on the Internet who have had fairly good track records on news and events, it it would be nice to be able to make threads dedicated to them.

You already have a thread for each politician I think, wouldn't it be nice to be able to group them?

For example, when you create a post, you could have a pull down (or a write in) list of categories it belongs to, then pull up a page with just those categories. So something like

"News: Ryan Dawson" as a post or "Politician: Rand Paul", etc.

Here's a list of people I frequently pay attention to:

Rivero - Bitchute
Rivero - Odysee
Jimmy Dore - Bitchute
Jimmy Dore - Rumble
Glenn Greenwald - Rumble
Richie Allen
Fight For Freedom (Richie Allen)
Computing Forever
Sargon of Akkad
Black Pidgeon Speaks
The Salty Cracker
Pull The Pin Already
SGT Report
Republic Broadcasting Network
Patrick
AwakenWithJP
The Last American Vagabond
MRCTV
Ryan Dawson (odysee)
Ryan Dawson (bitchute)
Vee
Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
Matt Orfalea
The Duran
The Corbett Report
Andrei Martyanov
Spoon
The Vigilant Fox
Redacted News
Razor Fist
Straight Calls - Douglas Macgregor

I keep this list, because "signing up to follow" is kind of pointless when sites deregister you all the time.
357   Patrick   2023 Feb 14, 1:39pm  

Sure, I'd be happy to have a thread dedicated to each of those.

So you're suggesting categories, like hashtags?
358   richwicks   2023 Feb 14, 9:39pm  

Patrick says

Sure, I'd be happy to have a thread dedicated to each of those.

So you're suggesting categories, like hashtags?

Yeah, something like that.

Maybe have a pull down for categories and then after that, allow people to just see a mainpage with just those topics.

People should try to re-use "categories" and "tags" where appropriate. Basically, allow organization based on topic. For the example I gave, it would be "news sources" or something.

I had a friend who had an idea where he wanted to make a website that would just follow journalists, and their stories, to weed them out as being wrong or full of shit where they would be caught in lies. His idea was that eventually what you'd be left with is reliable reporters. He gave up on it when he drew the conclusion that there are no reporters in "mainstream media", they are all full of shit.

Here is ONE reporter thought that STARTED on mainstream, before his ethics made him leave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceobsac7LE8

He is the only person I've ever seen give Obama a real interview.
359   8621e2ea   2023 Mar 17, 6:27am  

How do I donate?

I don't have time to engage with what must be a wonderful community.

Love the memes, they make my day. Every day. If I get Patrick.net memes, I don't really need to read a lot of crap - or I know what to read.

Looked for donation button, link, maybe I'm thick, but couldn't find.

Cheers,

JC
360   Patrick   2023 Mar 17, 10:38am  

@8621e2ea

I don't have a donation button. You could mail a donation to:

PO Box 85
Menlo Park, CA 94026

Thanks!
361   Patrick   2023 Mar 28, 11:49am  

I made the font a bit larger. Substack has a pretty big font and that seems to work well for them.

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