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Goran_K says

Strongest guy I knew was Samoan.

Trends in diabetes and obesity in Samoa over 35 years, 1978–2013


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5411261/?source=patrick.net

HeadSet says

just_passing_through says
Last night I had a nice salad and deep fried some shrimp and scallops in peanut oil.

Ever tried steamed shrimp in a double boiler? I do that with Carolina shrimp and it is awesome. No Old Bay, butter, or anything else needed. Tons of flavor.

I like peeling and deveining shrimp, then letting them sit in a pot of running water for about 5 to 10 minutes. Then after the water runs clean, even when you swish the shrimp around. Add 1 teaspoon of baking soda to the water and let the shrimp sit in the fridge soaking in that water for at least 3 hours.

After which you may proceed to do anything to those shrimp and they will cook up plump, tender and snappy. Even a bit past the point of being over cooked. Though you shouldn't over cook your shrimp. This is how Chinese joints process their shrimp for their dishes. And why their shrimp always has that plump juicy and snappy texture. Rather than rubbery tired Shrimp that just curl up and dry out after being cooked.

Booger says

Sea levels are not rising. I hate this myth

I'm more repulsed by people who obsess over the weight of others, I can look away from fat people and ignore them. But I can't ignore the brainwashing of useful idiots helping the Klauss class create food insecurities, because they have been conditioned to hate some fat fuck they don't even know. Even while food prices are inflating double, triple, quadruple, the useless idiots focus on the fat people. There's just no escaping that level of stupidity. They are doing the globalists work for them, because of fat people, they have been conditioned to not ask the right questions.

Ripped off from another thread:

If this thread is about obestity we need some new photos here. Of the three that I see, the two ladies look like "todays" average sized women. And I'm seeing em everywhere in the commercials on TV as well.

Say Farewell to Victoria's Secret models. They are an endangered species.

They fatso crowd above is so revolting they may actually encourage people to become actual Fascists.

Booger says

PLUS size? More like octuple plus size. I bet she's dead before 50. Wouldn't be at all surprised if she was dead before 40.

richwicks says

Booger says

PLUS size? More like octuple plus size. I bet she's dead before 50. Wouldn't be at all surprised if she was dead before 40.

If you need two seats, you should have to pay for two seats. What is wrong with that? Or if first class is an option with larger seating, pay to upgrade?

Tenpoundbass says

I'm more repulsed by people who obsess over the weight of others, I can look away from fat people and ignore them. But I can't ignore the brainwashing of useful idiots helping the Klauss class create food insecurities

I don't have a problem with fat people. But severe obesity I do have a problem with. That's a medical problem. They need to find out what is wrong. Perhaps they are missing essential nutrients? Maybe they have some underlying condition? It's got to be something. How can anybody get to 300 lbs and have to use a scooter cart at the grocery store?

I have let myself go from time to time, but I always hit a point of "shit, I don't want to be like this forever" and I reverse it.

I couldn't imagine being so heavy that I was immobilized. Think of all the things you CAN'T do when you're that heavy. It would be a prison. There must be a point where people get so heavy, that it must become extremely difficult to lose weight, simply because they cannot move.

This is a 700 lb man's x-ray




It really is a thin person trapped in a fat body.

richwicks says

But severe obesity I do have a problem with. That's a medical problem. They need to find out what is wrong. Perhaps they are missing essential nutrients? Maybe they have some underlying condition? It's got to be something.

Not a "medical" problem, but a discipline problem. If it were a medical problem then procedures like thyroid treatment would be the cure. Instead, the "cure" is stomach stapling and other procedures to cut back on the eating. I thought that show "Greatest Loser" was perfect, as they showed to pop culture that the solution to obesity is diet and exercise.

HeadSet says

Not a "medical" problem, but a discipline problem. If it were a medical problem then procedures like thyroid treatment would be the cure. Instead, the "cure" is stomach stapling and other procedures to cut back on the eating. I thought that show "Greatest Loser" was perfect, as they showed to pop culture that the solution to obesity is diet and exercise.

It's "The Biggest Loser" TV show. I love that show. The first couple of seasons were better when they did stuff that would be considered tasteless by some people's standards.

Yes it's a discipline problem.

Booger says

considered tasteless

I see what you did there...

When I found out that a lot of morbidly obese people can't wipe their butts without a Butt Wiping Stick it changed everything for me. When I look at them now I am calculating if their fat arms can reach alllll the way around to their butts. If not I give them a wide berth.
What the hell do they do if they have to crap when they are out in the world without their stick?

HeadSet says

I thought that show "Greatest Loser" was perfect, as they showed to pop culture that the solution to obesity is diet and exercise.

Exercise has health benefits, but diet is sufficient for weight loss. Eating at a calorie deficit means that the body is consuming more energy than it is ingesting, the difference comes from its fat stores.

When Lizzo has children and they grow up they will look at that picture of her in the swimsuit all smiles and say "you were so thin mommy"

You weren't expecting that line now were you? LOL.

yawaraf says

Exercise has health benefits, but diet is sufficient for weight loss.

Disagree. If you cut back on calories alone, your body will slow down the metabolism in response. That is why when people go off the diet and back to their old habits they gain even more weight.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

But severe obesity I do have a problem with. That's a medical problem. They need to find out what is wrong. Perhaps they are missing essential nutrients? Maybe they have some underlying condition? It's got to be something.

Not a "medical" problem, but a discipline problem. If it were a medical problem then procedures like thyroid treatment would be the cure. Instead, the "cure" is stomach stapling and other procedures to cut back on the eating. I thought that show "Greatest Loser" was perfect, as they showed to pop culture that the solution to obesity is diet and exercise.

OK, psychological problem.

Whatever. When somebody is SEVERELY overweight, there's some issue there. Sure, a person can starve themselves to lose weight, but what's the underlying condition that got them to be so overweight?

I've gotten fat before (kind of there now), but I know how to lose weight - I just stop eating out entirely. This means I don't only avoid getting food from a restaurant, but I don't buy anything that is pre-packaged. I might buy canned vegetables and tomatoes, but that's as far as I go with "prepackaged" foods. I actually suspect that pre-packaged foods are somehow, well, poisoned.

It's trivial to lose weight doing this. Why is it so easy to lose weight doing this? I imagine there's something in pre-packaged foods that isn't in the foods I eat when I eat exclusively at home.

richwicks says

It's trivial to lose weight doing this.

True, but I also think that the older you get, the more difficult it is to lose weight.

yawaraf says

Exercise has health benefits, but diet is sufficient for weight loss.

That's what the trainers on "The Biggest Loser" TV show said.

HeadSet says

Disagree. If you cut back on calories alone, your body will slow down the metabolism in response. That is why when people go off the diet and back to their old habits they gain even more weight.

Even with minimal exercise, the body will still consume energy. As an extreme case, this guy didn't eat for over a year: https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/2018/02/story-angus-barbieri-went-382-days-without-eating/

Those who go off their diets and gain weight do so because they start eating a caloric surplus.

Booger says

richwicks says

It's trivial to lose weight doing this.

True, but I also think that the older you get, the more difficult it is to lose weight.

For me, I find it to be the opposite. I had a lot more difficulty controlling my weight when I was young than I do now. I used to bike centuries (100 miles) and I'd STILL be fat. Could have been where I lived as well. Where I live now, if I go biking, I hit mountains pretty quickly.

yawaraf says

As an extreme case, this guy didn't eat for over a year: https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/2018/02/story-angus-barbieri-went-382-days-without-eating/

I had no idea that one could go that long without eating. After reading that I'm guessing that literally tens of millions of Americans could theoretically not eat for a year.

Star Of Body-Positivity Show Dead From Heart Failure At Age 37

Jamie Lopez, star of the body positivity-based television show 'Super Sized Salon', was an advocate of a "beauty at any size' philosophy, more so than a health at any weight ideal. However, social justice proponents often held up her example as justification for the HAES lifestyle. She is now dead, suffering from heart failure at age 37.

She once weighed in at over 800 pounds.

Normal obesity is a killer, leading to numerous diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, cancer, etc. and is nothing to be 'celebrated.' Of course, the above took this to the
extreme and it killed her at a young age.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/star-body-positivity-show-dead-heart-failure-age-37

The key is to avoid high calorie, low nutrition foods and substitute that with the opposite. Dr. Joel Fuhrman is someone you need to check out if you're interested
in improving your health naturally. My wife & I have been following the basics of this eating lifestyle for almost 15 years. It's made a world of difference in our lives. https://www.drfuhrman.com/

Most processed food is junk, made with the right combination of fat, salt and sugar which, over time, becomes highly addictive.

FYI, my personal BMI is 22.6, however, I exercise daily and have an athletic build. Muscle tissue is 'heavier' than fat, so, in my case, the BMI is somewhat misleading.
My wife's BMI is 22.

RayAmerica says

Star Of Body-Positivity Show Dead From Heart Failure At Age 37

Was they vaxxed?

https://trackbill.com/bill/california-assembly-bill-10-pupils-body-shaming-policies-and-resources/2282286/

California AB10
Pupils: body-shaming policies and resources.

I'm probably repeating myself; oh well.
I'm older than some of you guys and I can say that growing up fat chicks were rare to see.
Today a girl is "thick", but back in my salad days we would call her fat.

HeadSet says

yawaraf says

Exercise has health benefits, but diet is sufficient for weight loss.

Disagree. If you cut back on calories alone, your body will slow down the metabolism in response. That is why when people go off the diet and back to their old habits they gain even more weight.

Agree with headset on this. You can eat what you want with some movement and not gain weight. Calories don't much matter until you're sitting at a desk job all day. However it happens you need to at least be walking 3-4 hours a day in my opinion. Could be taking the dog for a walk. Doing yard work instead of hiring someone. Walk to the mailbox instead of picking it up from the car. If you can walk to do errands do that. At work if you're given breaks just go walk for those 15 minutes or whatever it is. You don't need to be pumping iron or running a marathon. I've seen plenty of fatties complete marathons.

After WWII roughly, we started sitting on our asses more than moving or standing. The other element of moving is you're not eating or snacking. And as far as diet goes if you're going to snack make it something filling. Not processed chips or other crap. We just peeled all our boiled Easter eggs we colored as snacks. Grab something like that or make a batch of boiled eggs every Sunday for the week. Roll up some ham and cheese (no bread) and have that for lunch. Keep bananas around. Then eat whatever you want for dinner besides processed foods or fried food.

Diet doesn't much matter if you're moving. You could eat pizza every night if you wanted. During the day is when people eat the shittiest. Going out for lunch and getting a 1,200 calorie fried chicken sandwich doesn't help. AND then eating a shit dinner. It's not a diet per se but snack healthy and limit yourself to one shit meal a day or less. Eat the food you want one time a day and that's it.

Cutting back or not drinking helps as well, though that's more for beer drinkers and sugary mixed drink drinkers. Again though if you're moving, you're likely not drinking. I think you get the theme.

Oh, and pick up a sport if can. Even if you suck at it or don't know it. Probably popular for you CA guys or at least Southern CA but volleyball is a blast. Sand/beach volleyball specifically. Moving and running in sand is quite the workout and fun if you're competitive. Play basketball. Hell throw darts. Play ping pong. Ponged last night and there's only one fat(ish) friend. We're all pretty lean. Shuffleboard. Frisbee games. There are so many low impact games you can play and you're on your feet moving. And they're fun. Don't think you need to be a gym rat to get thin. That's for toning and looking muscular.

Booger says

After reading that I'm guessing that literally tens of millions of Americans could theoretically not eat for a year.

If so, we have found our candidates for that Mars colony. No eating or crapping for a year would solve some logistics issues for the long flight.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/13/plus-sized-teacher-my-students-beg-me-not-to-eat-them/

https://studyfinds.org/women-obesity-epidemic/

America’s obesity epidemic: Women putting on significantly more pounds than men

It's really disgusting. I see so many more obese ugly women now then when I was in my 20s.

Big_Johnson says

ntermittent Fasting 16:8. Eat anything you want during 8am-4pm but stop eating after 4pm and only water/low carb drinks like bodyarmor or coconut water.
Seems harder than it is. You get used to it quickly. Not only do you lose weight but you also detox.

Yeah, stop eating around 6 pm, and drink ice water with lemon as far as detox.

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