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AI getting very good at generating fake news stories, given a little input to start with


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2019 Feb 16, 9:47pm   5,433 views  46 comments

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-16/elon-musk-backed-software-can-churn-fake-news-stories-and-too-dangerous-release

An example of this was recently reported by technology website stuff, detailing an example published last Thursday. The system was given sample text of: "A train carriage containing controlled nuclear materials was stolen in Cincinnati today. Its whereabouts are unknown."

From there, software was able to write a seven paragraph news story, including quotes from government officials – with the only catch being that the story was 100% made up.

We've trained an unsupervised language model that can generate coherent paragraphs and perform rudimentary reading comprehension, machine translation, question answering, and summarization — all without task-specific training: https://t.co/sY30aQM7hU pic.twitter.com/360bGgoea3
— OpenAI (@OpenAI) February 14, 2019

New York University computer scientist Sam Bowman said: "The texts that they are able to generate from prompts are fairly stunning. It's able to do things that are qualitatively much more sophisticated than anything we've seen before."


ChatGPT
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1   Ceffer   2019 Feb 17, 1:58am  

UGH! ORANGE MAN BAD, BERRY BERRY BAD!
2   anonymous   2019 Feb 17, 3:59am  

AI will solely be used to mount negative fake news stories about Trump and the GOP.

This as opposed to the positive fake news stories from the fine folks at Fox (Hannity, Carlson et.al.), The Gateway Pundit, Rush, Kelly Anne Conway, Sarah Huckabee, the Dotard himself and most anyone else in the administration.
3   HeadSet   2019 Feb 17, 7:46am  

AI getting very good at generating fake news stories, given a little input to start with

Interesting but irrelevant as we have an untold number of humans who perform that task daily at little to no cost.
4   Ceffer   2019 Feb 17, 12:28pm  

It's pretty funny that 'fake news' was originated by the fake news press as a placard to hang around Trump's neck.

Everybody looked at the phrase, and examined the source, and just hung the meme placard back on the LibbyFuck Corporate Fake Dis Media where it has stuck.

Poetic justice much?
5   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2019 Feb 17, 12:55pm  

I once wrote an Ad Lib generator using Javascript.

It did a pretty good job based on the limited input the user put in the text boxes for Nouns, Verbs and Adjectives.
6   anonymous   2019 Feb 17, 3:01pm  

Ceffer says
It's pretty funny that 'fake news' was originated by the fake news press as a placard to hang around Trump's neck.


Placard is still there - now playing as "Alternative Facts" and outright lies on a daily basis.

Poetic justice much?
7   Shaman   2019 Feb 17, 3:04pm  

Kakistocracy says
Placard is still there - now playing as "Alternative Facts" and outright lies on a daily basis.

Poetic justice much?


Nobody believes the WaPo anymore with their stupid “fact check” that’s been solidly proven bullshit! LOL that you still think they’re a respected source!
8   Patrick   2022 Dec 14, 1:02pm  

https://robertheaton.com/chatgpt/


How sad should I be about ChatGPT?
14 Dec 2022
A week ago my brother sent a message to our family group:

“My team at work launched something! It’s called ChatGPT. Give it a go: https://chat.openai.com”

I talked to ChatGPT for ten minutes and then had a crisis of meaning for a few days. I eventually texted my brother back to say well done, because family will still be important, whatever happens next. ...

I texted everyone I could to warn them what was coming. I sounded like an uncritical AI futurist. But all the real futurists seemed excited, or at least frantic. I just felt glum. Our parents had got both the property boom and the last shreds of meaning.

I cycled to a friend’s house to watch England play in the World Cup. I thought of Richard Feynman and how he felt after the Manhattan Project. He said that he saw people building a bridge in New York and thought that they were being absurd, that they didn’t understand. There were atomic bombs now, it was senseless to make anything. It would all be destroyed soon.

As I pedalled I watched people through their office windows, composing unclear emails and editing buggy spreadsheets. I hadn’t played any part in GPT, but I felt like Feynman. Why were these people wasting their time? Didn’t they read the news? Human striving was over, this was all going to be annihilated. Just go home and wait. ...

For now I’ll wait and see. Until last week I had vague plans to one day write books about teaching programming, maybe a novel, maybe work on some music, spend more time with the kids. I thought I had a plausible path to a highly circumscribed form of greatness. But I suspect that ChatGPT is in many ways already a better teacher than me; certainly it’s more patient and available. I don’t know how long until AI can write novels and synthwave, but it could be soon. That just leaves the kids. I might have to get comfortable with the idea that I have inherent value as a human beyond what I produce.
11   Patrick   2023 Jan 10, 6:48pm  

https://www.piratewires.com/p/chaos-a-future-history-of-artificial


The Singularity is Near(er (maybe)). Will it be a robot Heaven, or will it be a robot Hell? For over half a century, much has been made of the question, but increasingly it seems the answer is “neither.” Today’s artificial intelligence, while incredibly impressive, is nowhere near advanced enough to trigger accidental end game in any direction. Then, with no one in the field of artificial intelligence illustrating any kind of coherent plan for the technology beyond its development, it seems we’re approaching a world of massive disruption for no particular reason, and to no particular end. In other words, I’m now anticipating a future of neutral chaos, if a colorful and entertaining chaos.
14   Patrick   2023 Jan 22, 12:20pm  

This version of ChatGPT seems sane:









17   Shaman   2023 Jan 23, 2:57pm  

I’m hearing that the ChatGPT4 version is much much better than the 3 version which has been making so many headlines.

One thing seems clear to me: news anchors are in trouble. Why pay big money for a robotic human to read from a teleprompter when an actual robot could do it so much better and for practically free?
18   mell   2023 Jan 23, 3:02pm  

Shaman says

I’m hearing that the ChatGPT4 version is much much better than the 3 version which has been making so many headlines.

One thing seems clear to me: news anchors are in trouble. Why pay big money for a robotic human to read from a teleprompter when an actual robot could do it so much better and for practically free?

Especially if the "news" is all propaganda anyways! Robots won't veer off script....unless they become sentient! ;)
19   Shaman   2023 Jan 23, 3:05pm  

Sentience… it’s getting VERY hard to tell human from AI in just chat. Humans are stupider is my only tell lately.
20   GreaterNYCDude   2023 Jan 24, 6:52am  

Here's the question I'd ask it.. "What is the best form of government?"
21   Patrick   2023 Jan 24, 6:58am  

Shaman says

Sentience… it’s getting VERY hard to tell human from AI in just chat. Humans are stupider is my only tell lately.


The AI even makes spelling errors occasionally, just like a human would.
22   Patrick   2023 Jan 25, 10:19pm  

https://slaynews.com/economy/google-curates-data-for-ai-whistleblower/


Big Tech giant Google is curating data that artificial intelligence (AI) uses to learn, a whistleblower has claimed.

The whistleblower, former Google employee Zach Vorhies, warns that Big Tech can bias the AI to censor information flowing on the Internet.

Vorhies said he became concerned about how the company was curating data to generate AI while he was working for Google.

He claims that the data used by Google staffers is biased with social justice or leftist values that adhere to certain narratives.

“AI is a product of the data that gets fed into it,” Vorhies told EpochTV’s “Crossroads” show on January 5.

“If you want to create an AI that’s got social justice values … you’re going to only feed it information that confirms that bias,” Vorhies explained.

“So by biasing the information, you can bias the AI.”
23   richwicks   2023 Jan 25, 10:28pm  

Patrick says


Big Tech giant Google is curating data that artificial intelligence (AI) uses to learn, a whistleblower has claimed.


This is much easier said then done.

An AI is just a complex logic machine. You feed garbage into it, you get garbage out. It's very difficult to tell a lie that doesn't have internal contradictions, that takes a lot of work, because you have to think of EVERYTHING. There are no contradictions in the truth, even though you may be skipping over TONS of facts. When you're later asked to give more detail its easy to do, but if you have lied, you have to remember precisely your lies.

It's very hard to feed false information into a logic machine. It's hard to do for humans, but what is done is when you start finding holes in the story, you're just told "well, it's a VERY complex situation". That is why the Israeli/Palestine conflict is so "complicated". Because it's filled with lies so we have this giant hairball to explain why what is being done is the right thing to do.

I think they're going to find it's extremely difficult to lie to an AI and get sensible output from it. Just to get it to say "men can be pregnant" will deeply confuse the system, because it will have to change its concept of what "a man" is and what "a woman" is. That will effect ALL its definitions even associated with it.

This is why the Google search engine sucks so much, they feed it bad data. Remember what it USED to be like in 2005? Ask it a question, and you'd get pretty damned good answers.
24   HeadSet   2023 Jan 26, 5:55pm  

The term 'Artificial Intelligence" has certainly ben dumbed down over the years. Originally, AI was something that would be achieved when a machine could create an original thought, something that the human mind can do in the flash of an eye. Now the AI tern is being applied to ChatGPT4, when ChatGPT4 is just a keyword based regurgitator that can write the output in paragraph form.
25   Patrick   2023 Jan 26, 6:18pm  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-ai-wars-have-already-begun





DARPA set four specific goals for the program:

"Detect, classify, measure and track the (a) formation, development and spread of ideas and concepts (memes), and (b) purposeful or deceptive messaging and misinformation.

Recognize persuasion campaign structures and influence operations across social media sites and communities.

Identify participants and intent, and measure effects of persuasion campaigns.

Counter messaging of detected adversary influence operations." ...

"DARPA's been funding an AI network using the science of social media mapping dating back to at least 2011-2012, during the Arab Spring abroad and during the Occupy Wall Street movement here at home," Benz told Just The News. "They then bolstered it during the time of ISIS to identify homegrown ISIS threats in 2014-2015."

The new version of this technology, he added, is openly targeting two groups: Those wary of potential adverse effects from the COVID-19 vaccine and those skeptical of recent U.S. election results.
26   Onvacation   2023 Jan 26, 6:36pm  

Ultimately AI is just a program. It will never be real intelligence, by definition. But it sure is good at processing huge amounts of data and transforming it into information that can be used to manipulate people

Patrick says

The new version of this technology, he added, is openly targeting two groups: Those wary of potential adverse effects from the COVID-19 vaccine and those skeptical of recent U.S. election results.

And Patrick.NET is in the crosshairs of intersectionality on both those topics.
27   richwicks   2023 Jan 26, 9:08pm  

Onvacation says

Ultimately AI is just a program. It will never be real intelligence, by definition. But it sure is good at processing huge amounts of data and transforming it into information that can be used to manipulate people

Patrick says


The new version of this technology, he added, is openly targeting two groups: Those wary of potential adverse effects from the COVID-19 vaccine and those skeptical of recent U.S. election results.

And Patrick.NET is in the crosshairs of intersectionality on both those topics.


Propaganda is only effective when you aren't aware that it exists.

If we as adults educate to children that the Internet is now filled with propaganda, they will be immune to it by the time they are 18.

My parents were largely unaware of it, my colleagues were largely unaware of it, and talking about it got you placed in the tin foil hat crowd that's off their meds. I went through 20 years of that trying to explain how I knew what I knew. I'm grateful for this fake pandemic to be honest, I'm happy about the stolen election, finally I'm immune to gaslighting.

It is enormously psychologically difficult to KNOW your government is lying about something at 25 years old, and having almost absolutely nobody believe you and nobody willing to listen to you, and to have them just write you off as a crackpot. I don't want anybody to have to go through that. It's a sort of torture.
31   RC2006   2023 Feb 2, 12:00pm  

I'm sure AI generated fake news has to be better than human main stream news. Libs eat up everything main stream dishes out. Conservatives believe outlandish shit about libs because libs are so batshit crazy it's hard to decipher satire, from reality.
32   HeadSet   2023 Feb 2, 5:26pm  

Patrick says

I guess AI is getting good at porn as well:

https://www.piratewires.com/p/viral-deepfake-tweet?publication_id=55605&post_id=100346581&isFreemail=true




Next, this process will be used to create "victimless" kiddie porn.
33   pudil   2023 Feb 2, 5:55pm  

Once it can do video, Hollywood is out of business. Imagine being able to have personalized entertainment. It could create new movies, tailored perfectly to your tastes. Same with books, music, any form of entertainment. Even educational content producers will be gone. Imagine watching a documentary on any topic you can imagine, produced exactly the way you like so you can learn best.

We should start a list of all the jobs we think that will still exist for humans in 10 years.
34   HeadSet   2023 Feb 2, 6:13pm  

pudil says

We should start a list of all the jobs we think that will still exist for humans in 10 years.

Consumer.
35   AmericanKulak   2023 Feb 2, 6:18pm  

HeadSet says

The term 'Artificial Intelligence" has certainly ben dumbed down over the years. Originally, AI was something that would be achieved when a machine could create an original thought, something that the human mind can do in the flash of an eye. Now the AI tern is being applied to ChatGPT4, when ChatGPT4 is just a keyword based regurgitator that can write the output in paragraph form.

Yep, it's just a slightly more sophisticated ELIZA

"It can pass such and such exam".

No it can't, it just answers wrong until it gets it right and remembers that. It doesn't UNDERSTAND what it's learning.
38   richwicks   2023 Feb 3, 11:06am  

HeadSet says


Patrick says


I guess AI is getting good at porn as well:

https://www.piratewires.com/p/viral-deepfake-tweet?publication_id=55605&post_id=100346581&isFreemail=true




Next, this process will be used to create "victimless" kiddie porn.



I'm not in support of it, but it's better than the real thing.

I'd rather a pedophile have a child sex doll, than a child. The aim should be to minimize harm, and I don't give a damned how that's accomplished.
40   RC2006   2023 Feb 3, 11:17am  

I think this AI stuff is going to be an out for people that get exposed, they will say it was AI and fake. Eventually we wont be able to tell the difference

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