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Thank you! Yes, I believe the OP was editable in the past. Since it is the top of the thread it should be editable to correct mistakes or add new information if needed that is relevant.

https://www.raptureready.com/2023/08/09/dimensional-deceivers-by-terry-james/

“Now that the UFO narrative has ramped up just as all other things that seem to be going on are converging, the subject of my emailer’s note, I think, deserves some increased scrutiny.

First, it’s interesting that US government officialdom has seen fit to change the nomenclature of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) to unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP).

My wonder over this—perhaps because of my overwhelming skepticism of anything coming out of this government nowadays—comes from the thought that someone wishes to get the public’s mind off of the kind of superfluous view that surrounds the topic of UFOs—i.e., people kind of look at these things with tongue in cheek. Even with the blockbuster movies about all of the space beings, etc., people as a whole still see in their mind’s eye little green beings of a spoofing, fictional sort.

I’m wondering if these controller types in high places now want us to begin taking the UFOs seriously. Maybe that’s why the mysterious sightings have been dubbed “UAPs” to help change our mindsets.

Certainly, the whistleblowers on the UAP matters being sent to testify before congressional committees is a sea change in the way government has, to this point, dealt with the strange sightings over the years.

We see the change in the way government wants to deal with possible visitors from other worlds in the following:

In July, Congress quietly admitted that Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) are not “man-made” and that the threat is “expanding,” burying the startling revelations in a report added to the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023. The finding was first reported by Vice on Tuesday. The report also criticized the DoD for “the slow pace” at which the department was establishing the office “to address those threats” related to UFOs. (“Congress quietly says UFO threat ‘expanding,’ not all are ‘man-made,'” American Military News)”

PeopleUnited says

Certainly, the whistleblowers on the UAP matters being sent to testify before congressional committees is a sea change in the way government has, to this point, dealt with the strange sightings over the years.

Is China taking this seriously? How about India or Russia?

I don't know why the US government is doing this, but I can tell you, nobody takes it seriously. I think the government is just getting more and more desperate for a distraction and they're pretty much out of ideas.

If people took this seriously, it would be on television day and night, it would be the biggest news of the century, instead we have some, supposed, whistleblower talking to a bunch of jerkoffs in congress about it.

And anyhow, let's say extra-terrestrials ARE real. Well, what are we going to do about it? They would at minimum be an interplanetary life form. They can't be violent or we'd otherwise wouldn't exist by now. They just need to tap an asteroid or a comet and the Earth is laid waste in a decade.

Our government will do anything, ANYTHING, other than to work to improve the country. It's just an endless string of distractions This is just another one of them.

richwicks says

Is China taking this seriously? How about India or Russia?

I don't know why the US government is doing this, but I can tell you, nobody takes it seriously.

First of all China and Russia already have near/complete totalitarian control of their respective citizens and don’t need to invent stories of aliens to cow the people into submission. Furthermore there is great lack of religious freedom and knowledge in those countries dominated by atheists for generations.

In the USA however there is a rifle behind every blade of grass as Imperial Japan put it, and so deception and division must be employed to prevent the people from uniting against the totalitarians who seek to enslave and control.

There are many many many liberals and “conservatives” who believe both the aliens from outer space and global warming BS stories and propaganda.

The speculation is that the powers that be are priming up the propaganda about global warming, UFOs and Christian “extremism” to prepare people to accept the big lie about why millions of people (including children) have suddenly disappeared in the twinkling of an eye.

PeopleUnited says

The speculation is that the powers that be are priming up the propaganda about global warming, UFOs and Christian “extremism” to prepare people to accept the big lie about why millions of people (including children) have suddenly disappeared in the twinkling of an eye.

Every generation thinks they are the last generation.

Look, our government just thinks people are fucking stupid, and maybe they are right, but they also think that anybody that isn't stupid is on "their side". They are incorrect about that.

I am tired of people who believe nonsense, but a good 10% of the population just see right through it. I'm in that 10% and I honestly couldn't understand it is that exclusive a club. This doesn't make me "smart", it just makes me something else. I have a friend who is an MIT graduate that is NOT in that 10%, and I would have never made it through MIT.

richwicks says

Every generation thinks they are the last generation.

Make no mistake, if the rapture happens today, we are not the last generation. There will be at least 1007 years after the rapture before the end of this world.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Every generation thinks they are the last generation.

Make no mistake, if the rapture happens today, we are not the last generation. There will be at least 1007 years after the rapture before the end of this world.

OH BS.

You're afraid of your own demise you'd prefer not to die and are hoping for the end of the world to avoid it.

I'll be there in time myself. We're all doomed to die.

Stop projecting. When I die, I’m going to a better place. Honestly I’m ready. This world has nothing to offer me anyway. I’m only sticking around because God wants me here on this planet for at least a little longer. But I’m looking forward to going home. This planet may have my body, but it is not the home of my soul.

It is finished.

PeopleUnited says

Stop projecting. When I die, I’m going to a better place. Honestly I’m ready. This world has nothing to offer me anyway. I’m only sticking around because God wants me here on this planet for at least a little longer. But I’m looking forward to going home. This planet may have my body, but it is not the home of my soul.

I envy your ability to have faith. I've told you that many times.

I also have no fear of death, but I have no faith in "god". We make this world what we make it, we put up with what put up with. I'm disgusted with what these "people" around me put up with. I never had any faith in god, but now, I no longer have faith in people. If our "authorities" said that Jewish people were spreading disease and had to be confined in concentration camps, it would have fucking happened. These "people" I live among are so fucking stupid. I had no idea how stupid they were. I can't trust their ability to reason or think.

I can trust an animal though. They are totally logical. You treat them well, they will treat you well. These things I have to live among? No so much.

richwicks says

These "people" I live among are so fucking stupid. I had no idea how stupid they were. I can't trust their ability to reason or think.

That’s the thing. And it’s important to remember that you are just like them. No matter how much you protest, or assert superiority, you and I are at times both illogical and unreasonable. The louder you protest that fact, the more true it becomes. It’s just more evidence that we need a savior to rescue us from our own selves.

His name is Jesus.richwicks says

I can trust an animal though. They are totally logical.

Animals have misunderstandings all the time just like people. I ran into a cane Corso owner out with his pet (in full service dog garb) the other day. He told me the dog grew up on his farm thinking it was just one of the farm animals. She was a mother herself. She recently walked into the pigpen like she always does but this time the sow thought she was a threat and bit the Corso on the head. The Corso retaliated biting off the leg of the sow who did not survive. That was a misunderstanding that ended in death. Humans, animals, we all have them all the time. Don’t pretend animals are logical or more trustworthy, misunderstandings and difficult choices happen all the time. When forced, most people will do just about anything to save themselves or their loved ones, even if it means hurting others, just like that Corso.

Will the rapture release my seat belt, or will I wind up stuck in my car?

Ceffer says

Will the rapture release my seat belt, or will I wind up stuck in my car?

If you are left behind you might need your seatbelt because a bunch of cars with raptured believers will turn into driverless machines. But if you are a believer, it’s likely that even your clothes will be left behind. Imagine the chaos when millions of piles of clothes just fall to the ground off the backs of raptured believers. Pilots of planes gone, surgical assistants in the middle of surgery, gone. A crane operator, gone. Thousands of car drivers on the road, gone. Whole classrooms full of kids, gone. Every single baby, gone. It will be like nothing this world has ever seen. When people do see it, will they repent and turn to God? I hope so! Jesus saves. Anyone else is just an antiChrist.

PeopleUnited says

That’s the thing. And it’s important to remember that you are just like them. No matter how much you protest, or assert superiority, you and I are at times both illogical and unreasonable. The louder you protest that fact, the more true it becomes. It’s just more evidence that we need a savior to rescue us from our own selves.

I am entirely aware of my fallibility, so I'm on guard for it, and I know I make mistakes, so accept it when I do, but this is a rarity. I'm only better in that I recognize I can fuck up, most people people around me will never accept they make mistakes. That my superiority, in recognizing my fallibility.

Because I can accept my errors and mistakes, I can stop repeating them. I live in an area of so many eggheads, they will never accept they made an error. I'm an engineer, I'm constantly being held to the fire in my errors, and I have made plenty of them, but I learn from it, so many people don't.

PeopleUnited says

The Corso retaliated biting off the leg of the sow who did not survive.

A corso did that? That's, um, amazing. I could take on a corso, but not a sow. In a fight to the death with a cane corso and a sow, I'm pretty certain I could take out the dog, and I don't think I could win against the pig.

PeopleUnited says

Don’t pretend animals are logical or more trustworthy,

HAHAHA - animals are absolutely more trustworthy, without question, no doubt.

And they are entirely logical. The situation you described was based on the animal's experience. It acted entirely logically. The sow lacked knowledge, so she attacked it. It was an intruder, and wolves, generally kill animals.

Completely logical. I love the logic of animals, because you can see it and understand it.

If you ever come across me, and you have a dog that is afraid of me, barking at me, doesn't trust me? Trust your dog. I'm absolutely not a threat, I guarantee that, but trust you dog. The ONLY time my dog showed aggression to a stranger, he was out of his mind, insane. Kelsey saw this before I did. I brought Kelsey home, and went back to the store, and it was obvious the man was out of his mind. Kelsey saw it immediately, I didn't.

Trust your dog, even when your dog might be wrong. Don't worry about offending the person, they'll get over it. Kelsey only once showed distrust, and when he did, he was absolutely right. I've had dogs distrust me, and I'm not offended. The owners have apologized to me, and I just tell them "trust your dog". I'd rather there be a false positive than a false negative.

Dogs read people better than people read people. They can be overly suspicious, but if you have a dog and it detects me as a threat, or anybody, trust your dog's instincts, they are better than yours. This might only apply to large dogs. Small dogs have growled and threatened me. On the RARE occasion I can get the owner to release the dog to actually go after me, bite me if they want, after explaining I've done dog rescue, and I will absolutely won't retaliate in any way if I'm bitten, the dog realizes I'm not a threat. This is "small dog syndrome". Many little dogs are fierce, as long as they aren't given the ability to actually go after you. They are just basically "talking shit", let go of that leash and suddenly all their bravado is gone.

Some people prove through their comments to be either self deceived or deliberately deceptive. I recommend all people to ignore the deceived and deceivers at all costs.

For example a cane corso has bite pressure of 700 psi. They stand 24-27 inches high and are 88-110 lbs of nearly pure muscle, their ancestors were bred by Roman legionnaires as attack dogs for the battlefield. To their owner they are an asset. But to anyone else they are a threat, basically the sow I mentioned above is dead because it was a mistake to attack the corso. But the corso also showed no restraint. It is an animal. I would not want to cross a corso or a corso owner. It can bite my foot off just as quick as that sows leg. So that is just one of many reasons how I know certain people are full of lies. Don’t waste your time with lies.

PeopleUnited says

Some people prove through their comments to be either self deceived or deliberately deceptive. I recommend all people to ignore the deceived and deceivers at all costs.

For example a cane corso has bite pressure of 700 psi. They stand 24-27 inches high and are 88-110 lbs of nearly pure muscle, their ancestors were bred by Roman legionnaires as attack dogs for the battlefield. To their owner they are an asset. But to anyone else they are a threat, basically the sow I mentioned above is dead because it was a mistake to attack the corso. But the corso also showed no restraint. It is an animal. I would not want to cross a corso or a corso owner. It can bite my foot off just as quick as that sows leg. So that is just one of many reasons how I know certain people are full of lies. Don’t waste your time with lies.

I did dog rescue for a long time, I used to foster for some of the most fucked up animals you can imagine, and my job was to regain trust with them. I lied to them and protected them, when they were with me, only good people were allowed to interact with them. My job was to show them the world was great, even though it's not. I purposely deceived them because I protected them.

I've had some violent animals and I don't think any dog could take me out. No dog can bite your foot actually off, it would require chewing, but I had a wolf, and I knew that animal could break a bone. I got stuck with Shiloh as a "Samoyed mix", full arctic wolf. Not a bad animal, but don't own a wolf. They want to be by your side constantly, they can't be left alone, a dog is like a child, a wolf is like a roomate. They aren't dogs.

Never been afraid of any dog, I can handle that, but a pig or a steer, a horse - I know those can kill me, and I would be helpless to prevent it. I can kill any dog, or any wolf really with my bare hands. Not that I want to, but no dog can take me out, a pig? How would I kill it? I can choke out any dog, break its neck, but not a pig. Certainly not a horse or a cow, or a pig.

I guess it's rock / paper / scissors. Maybe a dog can take out a pig, although I can't, but I can't, even though I can take out any dog. I might get messed up in a fight, but there's no way I'd lose. I can't be disabled by pain in a fight, I can only be disabled physically. I was the sucker of my rescue group, I had some very violent animals, every one of them was terrified of people because they had a bad owner, except one - she was crazy and I had to put her down as a result. That was my last rescue, as I failed. I couldn't fix her.

The war in Israel could indicate that God will only allow them 10 more years to repent before he returns to set up the new millennial kingdom here on earth. (Note: Jesus’ second coming is NOT the end of the world, rather it is the start of a new chapter in which Jesus rules as king on earth for 1000 years together with the help of all believers from all of history who will by then be all resurrected just like Jesus was)
https://www.thepropheticyears.com/enddepravity/have-the-10-days-of-awe-before-the-second-coming-begun.html

A quick look at the threads just here on our little corner of the inter webs reveals an accelerating pattern of lawlessness, lies and violence overtaking our nation and our world like a storm.

https://patrick.net/since?post_id=1379961&when=1698258265
https://patrick.net/post/1380238/2023-10-07-contempt-for-press-freedoms-u-s
https://patrick.net/since?post_id=1379370&when=1686216507
https://patrick.net/since?post_id=1296796&when=1697633107
https://patrick.net/since?post_id=1338816&when=1701263688
https://patrick.net/since?post_id=1343769&when=1702264939
https://patrick.net/since?post_id=1340105&when=1698258185
https://patrick.net/post/1332795/?start=-39#last
https://patrick.net/post/1343235/2022-01-05-yeah-more-about-that-harmless-5g

We could go on, but the reality is that as each day goes by we come closer and closer to Christ’s return. If you can’t see that now, you will soon. Hopefully you see it and act on it before it is too late. Many of you grew up knowing the scriptures, and you did not keep them and live by them.

The good news is there is still time to Repent

2 Timothy chapter 3:

13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

PeopleUnited says

The war in Israel could indicate that God will only allow them 10 more years to repent before he returns to set up the new millennial kingdom here on earth.

Needs to be in the predictions thread.

It’s not a prediction. The author is merely speculating that the Hamas attack of Israel in 2023 might be the start of something bigger. See his blog for the context of his speculation...

https://www.thepropheticyears.com/enddepravity/have-the-10-days-of-awe-before-the-second-coming-begun.html

PeopleUnited says

It’s not a prediction. The author is merely speculating that the Hamas attack of Israel in 2023 might be the start of something bigger. See his blog for the context of his speculation...

https://www.thepropheticyears.com/enddepravity/have-the-10-days-of-awe-before-the-second-coming-begun.html

hamas is too insignificant if a force. i read it’s about 20-30k soldiers total. that’s nothing. israel has actual army and weapons. they can just wipe hamas out and go on their usual way. that’s if what i read isn’t a lie.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

PeopleUnited says

It’s not a prediction. The author is merely speculating that the Hamas attack of Israel in 2023 might be the start of something bigger. See his blog for the context of his speculation...

https://www.thepropheticyears.com/enddepravity/have-the-10-days-of-awe-before-the-second-coming-begun.html

hamas is too insignificant if a force. i read it’s about 20-30k soldiers total. that’s nothing. israel has actual army and weapons. they can just wipe hamas out and go on their usual way. that’s if what i read isn’t a lie.

One of the speculations is that Russia, Iran, Turkey and others will some day in the near future pick up what Hamas started. (They call it the Gog and Magog coalition)

Scientists dig out a pliosaur that was rapidly buried leading to fossilization of the intact sea monster. Evidence of a flood that buried other things rapidly around the world as well.

Even the God hating scientists know that it was a rapid cataclysmic event (such as a worldwide flood) that buried and preserved this giant beast. note, it was buried above sea level.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/11/world/skull-pliosaur-fossil-documentary-intl-scli-scn/index.html

From the article. “It’s a “freak of nature” that this fossil remains in such good condition, Etches added. “It died in the right environment, there was a lot of sedimentation … so when it died and went down to the seafloor, it got buried quite quickly.”

This find is mentioned here in the rapture thread because it is further evidence that what God said is true. There was a worldwide flood several thousand years ago, and there will be a rapture in the near future just as the Bible says it was and will be.

The answers to life’s greatest questions can be found rooted in Genesis.

https://harbingersdaily.com/bible-prophecy-begins-and-ends-with-israel/

This one belongs here. The agenda proceeds and is only hindered by the remnants of believers who provide reason and hope to a world needing both. But when the Christians are raptured, there will be almost no restraint to the evil that will overtake the creatures that rejected their creator. Are you ready for the rapture, or are you ready for the tribulation? Both are headed towards us with certain immanence. What ye therefore lest that day meet you unawares.

I never saw the original Left Behind movie starring Kirk Cameron, nor did I read any of those old future fiction novels which I’m sure are a bit dated by now in a world of Covid lies, climate crisis, lies, fake elections, AI, renewed wars and rumors of war all over the earth... but I did see the newest Left Behind movie directed by Kevin Sorbo of Hercules Legendary Journeys fame.

It’s actually really interesting how they portrayed certain aspects of the future saga in fictionalized manner of course. One of the most vivid scenes is of a woman digging up the grave of her grandmother who died as a Christian in 2017. She was digging up her grave to verify if this scripture was true. “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/1/1th.4.16-17.kjv

I’ve never thought about the chaos that will happen after the rapture, but obviously some believe that people will resort to digging up the graves of Christians who died in years past to verify that God raised them up!

Are you ready for the rapture?

I think you can watch the new Left Behind movie for free on some of those streaming services. Enjoy!!

PeopleUnited says

The answers to life’s greatest questions can be found rooted in Genesis.

The Satanic Inversion of Society is found in Genesis.

Even the Churches are insisting Adam be Eve's helpmate and inverting the Natural God-Given Order.

Yes, it is just one of the many signs of the times. Women don’t want to be women and men don’t know how to be men in a mixed up world where wrong is celebrated and right is demonized.

Who knows, maybe the physicists will find God with their machines.

Patrick says

Who knows, maybe the physicists will find God with their machines.

Read Acts chapter 17.

You don’t need a machine.

Another sign of the end times. Killing people with mental illness and calling it medicine.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/young-healthy-women-being-euthanized-in-the-netherlands-should-be-a-warning-for-canada/

PeopleUnited says

Another sign of the end times. Killing people with mental illness and calling it medicine.

Just curious; where is that 'end times' prophecy in the Scriptures?

2 Timothy chapter 3 is a good start

Except the 3rd. Chapter of 2nd. Timothy doesn't mention anything about "killing people with mental illness and calling it medicine," so how is it to be interpreted as a "sign of the end times?"

Patrick says

Who knows, maybe the physicists will find God with their machines.

There's a lot of retconning going on in "Popular Science History".

Materialists mostly had to be dragged kicking and screaming from the Steady State Universe - took decades of Cosmic Background, Doppler Shift, etc. evidence to move the paradigm to Big Bang. Einstein himself was pushed grudgingly from materialism to light Deism over his life. Hoyle took a lifetime to shift as well. In fact, "Big Bang" was a derogatory term pushed by Hoyle, who was one of the last holdouts for Steady State

The Steady State Universe absolves materialists of origin questions: "Well, the universe always has been and will be. Is just always was"

Big Bang is an enormous problem for materialists.

1. If there were sufficient and necessary causes beyond the Universe, it would have triggered immediately so the Universe would be infinitely ancient and we wouldn't be here to ponder it due to Heat Death happening in the infinite past.

2. If the creation of the Universe happened at a finite time, only an actor's intervention could have held it back and/or caused it at a specific time.

3. A SupRAnatural cause violates Materialistic principles.

4. Exotic origin theories like Bubbleverses and such are complete ex rectum ideas without a lick of evidence or reasonable inference.

AmericanKulak says

Big Bang is an enormous problem for materialists.

Do you know what the Crisis in Cosmology is? There is growing evidence that there wasn't a Big Bang.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBg1fqjrUVrnOnOzcry3ilvOH6iOxV56m

There's a few fundamental problems with this Big Bang hypothesis. It wouldn't shock me at all to find out it was wrong.

If we see volcanism, erosion by wind and water, etc. today, materialism assumes it also happened in the past.

Ah, look at this layer of dust! It must be from a volcanic eruption as it resembles the same dust layers we see appear near active eruptions!

If we see a complex code today... materialists assume there was no coder

Aha! A specific set of instructions that produce certain outcomes. We only see that with writing, programs, etc. Can't be a code!

Data Science is ripping DNA evolutionary theory to shreds. Changing pieces of code at random is far far far far more likely to error and rubbish than utility. And erroneous, rubbish code doesn't get copied much.

"Ah, I'll copypasta this bit of non functioning, error ridden code and save myself hours of reinventing it" said no Programmer, ever

You know what I mean?
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AmericanKulak says

If we see a complex code today... materialists assume there was no coder

Life is NOT designed like a "complex code". It's assembled by a bunch of parts and almost randomly. We aren't an Alpha Romeo Spider, we're an escape vehicle made from parts stolen all over from a prison to make something that can drive for a few miles.

AmericanKulak says

Aha! A specific set of instructions that produce certain outcomes. We only see that with writing, programs, etc. Can't be a code!

Most of our DNA is garbage DNA. In life, you see the same pattern repeated over and over again, dolphins have 5 fingers, so do horses, but you only see the single toe.

AmericanKulak says

Data Science is ripping DNA evolutionary theory to shreds. Changing pieces of code at random is far far far far more likely to error and rubbish than utility. And erroneous, rubbish code doesn't get copied much.

And when it does, it's called cancer. We have telomeres at the end of our chromosomes, when they become too short, duplication of a cell is supposed to become impossible.

AmericanKulak says

"Ah, I'll copypasta this bit of non functioning, error ridden code and save myself hours of reinventing it" said no Programmer, ever

Haha. You ever code for a living? I have, and this certainly happens and a lot more often than you think.

Ray: the chapter starts out talking about perilous times. I don’t know about you, but if you have heart sickness (another term for “mental illness”j and your doctor recommends suicide, that sounds like the definition of perilous times. The person who is tasked with making you well, suggests killing you as a solution. Perilous times indeed.