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I think that EV's are so preposterous
Time is money and enjoyment. I don't want to sit at a charging station to get back home. Not all hotels have them either. I'm at the point I don't think most EV drivers travel much and understand. It's a bitch with an ICE vehicle. I'd drive down to the Panhandle and stop twice and knock it out in 12 hours. An EV would take 15-16 hours at least. So you'd need a hotel or you'll fall asleep driving.
In 20 years, we could be close to a "closed loop system" where there are enough batteries produced that we will have enough to recycle the expensive materials and won't have to mine for more. It is much easier, cheaper and cleaner to recycle cobalt and nickel from an existing battery than to mine new material.
The Components That Go Into A Tesla Battery
In 20 years, we could be close to a "closed loop system" where there are enough batteries produced that we will have enough to recycle the expensive materials and won't have to mine for more. It is much easier, cheaper and cleaner to recycle cobalt and nickel from an existing battery than to mine new material.
In 20 years, it is likely that a completely new battery technology or fuel cell will not need cobalt or nickel.
HeadSet says
In 20 years, it is likely that a completely new battery technology or fuel cell will not need cobalt or nickel.
Unlikely. Computer simulation can be done to verify theoretical efficiency. It's likely that lithium ion is near the highest energy density we can get. Sodium batteries may be far cheaper in time, but lower energy density, but sodium is far easier to get than lithium
I'm gonna wait for that online guy who is going to build a car that runs on water.
Doncha know, new battery technology is just around the corner. Couple that with CA's high speed rail system which is also ready to start up next year and transportation will be fixed.
I'm tired of false engineering solutions. Remember sequestering CO2? What happened to that "technology"?
I am not a materials scientist, but it's pretty easy to calculate voltages of various hypothetical battery interfaces now.
1hp horse runs on water and horse feed
car that runs on water
NuttBoxer says
car that runs on water
Surely this must be true. And likely the Zionists have gaslighted the world into belief that it is not possible. The last thing the Zionists want is for the price of oil to go down.
Sarcasm off.
richwicks says
I'm tired of false engineering solutions. Remember sequestering CO2? What happened to that "technology"?
I planted a couple of those in the yard last week.
richwicks says
I'm tired of false engineering solutions. Remember sequestering CO2? What happened to that "technology"?
I planted a couple of those in the yard last week.
Bitch and whine about rainforests being cut down and take away the food that makes them grow. CO2 has never been the problem.
richwicks says
I am not a materials scientist, but it's pretty easy to calculate voltages of various hypothetical battery interfaces now.
But calculating is hard...much easier to just read MSM headlines or listen to maddow.
NuttBoxer says
car that runs on water
Surely this must be true.
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most.
The 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries are:
Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
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