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2024 Nov 26, 8:46am   345 views  20 comments

by Al_Sharpton_for_President   ➕follow (5)   💰tip   ignore  

So I lived in Encinitas, CA and later in the Bay Area. Although I did encounter a few characters in the Bay Area, by far and away, San Diego had the most. A lot of people there are in a different world, indeed, a different culture. First, it is indeed a car culture. Quite a few Baja bugs, jacked up trucks, due to the proximity to the desert and Mexico, more n likely. I saw lots of exoctic sports cars that were probably bought used, that were slowly decaying, not housed in a garage, gathering dirt and sand, paint fading...

One good friend was a hippie hipster. A bon vivant. Enjoyer of microbrews, weed, and food. Yes, he was a bit “husky". Also a guitarist and somewhat of a musicologist, at least with regards to “modern rock.” His tastes were more Joy Division, The Cure, Love and Rockets, Sisters of Mercy, etc. He still spends a lot of time going to concerts and traveling. He was a biotech lab rat but “retired". His wife is more of the careerist, climbed the corporate ladder at a large San Diego medical device company, and still working. I notice this trend a lot, sort of a role reversal, where the wife brings home the bacon, and the dude takes it easy.

Another former friend was a Deadhead from Long Island. He and a buddy drove cross country, ultimately to San Diego. I let them crash at my Moonlight Beach studio, until the landlord complained, and they went back to sleeping in their classic Chevy van with buble window and trippy paint job. The dude had the most intense multicolored dragon tattooed on his chest that would always draw onlookers at the beach. He told me that he was driving around Long Island on acid with friends when he thought he was in an animated cartoon and had the idea that his car would just bounce of a tree. Well it didn’t, needless to say. Anyway, he became the graveshift delivery driver for VG’s donuts.

Another friend I met on the bus. If you didn't know better, you would have assumed he was mentally retarded. He had really bad hemiparesis, including facial paralysis, and so struggled to enunciate words. He was a massively broad dude, could have been a linesman in football, but his life took another course. He was evicted from his family home after his mother caught him drying cocaine using her hair dryer. He migrated to Florida where he worked as a free diving salvage diver. He told me about one big cocaine buy gone bad where he was ripped off by dudes with machine guns. Thought he was going to die. Half his body was paralyzed and so he had to swing the paralyzed side around to walk. It happened in a rollover accident where he was thrown from the vehicle which landed on his skull. He was sent to a rehab facility but he bailed, not wanting to be around vegetables who weren’t getting better. That’s when I met him, when he escaped from rehab. We smoked unbelievable amounts of weed when we hung out. To the max! - as we would say. He loved jazz and introduced me to a lot of that music that was happening at the time.

There were more friends of interesting backgrounds. Maybe I should write a book.


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1   WookieMan   2024 Nov 26, 8:59am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

There were more friends of interesting backgrounds. Maybe I should write a book.

ABWB (Always Be Writing a Book) I just made that up.

I always write. I have 3-4 possible book ideas and have started. One I think is really good that would be a ghost written auto biography. Perfect for anyone 30-55 age wise. Not giving away details, but need to get it to 150-200 pages. But similar to friends and life experiences.

Could be a good movie as well. I just don't have connections in these realms. I also don't want it to piss off people I know either. Fine line to walk.
2   Ceffer   2024 Nov 26, 10:39am  

Sounds like my old hippie roommate when I was in school at UCLA. I lived in Venice for two years with cheap rent around the canals. That area is fully gentrified and expensivo now. In those days, Berkeley and Venice were almost like sister cities.

He was from a wealthy Jewish family, but he hated them, never contacted them, wanted nothing to do with their money or gigs. He was very capable of running a variety of legal, semi legal and illegal small scams to get by (easy in the olden days when you could live by the ocean cheap). It twas the days of dope and roses, and we got along very well. He's the one who would invite me to orgies but I was too wallflower to participate. I understand 'The Dude' character from the Great Lebowski very well.

The oddball scroungers and hippies and hipsters were an odd and divergent lot for sure. I came to the conclusion that SoCal in general was a grifters and sociopath's paradise due to the ability to fuck a venue then cut and run somewhere else. This was accentuated by the general shallowness, hedonism and superficiality of the LA thing in general. That was countered with the monolithic disciplined seriousness of UCLA university at the time.

It was also depressing in ways due to the chaos of the drug cultures and the usual casualties. I somehow always wind up in these places, like Berkeley and Santa Cruz, even though I am conservative and my wife is arch conservative. I like the ambience, but not the politics.
3   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2024 Nov 26, 11:20am  

WookieMan says

I also don't want it to piss off people I know either.

Could be the basis of a novel based upon personal experience but not actually describing individuals, per se. They might guess you were writing about them, but that could be part of the fun.

In my case, writing about these characters I have known would basically be vignettes which I guess would be one way to go. But having an overall plot might be better.
4   Ceffer   2024 Nov 26, 11:41am  

Fictions are always sketches compared to real life. They can be compelling fictions, but sketches nonetheless. Real life has a twisting, turning, tangled fuckaciousness and bizzare-ness that exceeds the ability of any short form fiction to describe. There are 'stories' I don't waste my time telling because they would either upset people too much or they are too blue pilled in their limited realities to accept them.

I thought movies like "The Neon Demon" and "Mulholland Drive" were movies that you can't understand unless you had lived in SoCal in the West LA area for a while. The masses of wishful thinking, hopeful scroungers hit the glass ceilings of Hollywood with every ostensible luxury and monetary glory of fame and fortune on one side, with a bleak, crappy depressing reality on the other full of a variety of strange human monsters.

The scene in 'Mulholland Drive' where the two shallow Hollywood hipsters blow smoke up each other's asses in apparent congenial, breezy camaraderie, but one has the 'black book', so the other one without warning pulls out a silenced pistol and shoots him in the head for it, was so SoCal, it should be on a coin.

People in the day would make five commitments with people, then abandon four to pick what they thought might be the 'best' or most opportunistic while leaving the other four in the lurch. That was LA in a nutshell.
5   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2024 Nov 27, 4:38am  

When I lived in San Diego, I rarely ventured north. Thank goodness for Camp Pendleton defending the border. In fact, I pretty much stayed put in the North County.

I did travel to LA frequently on business after I left San Diego. LAX - worst airport in the world. Would use John Wayne airport or even Ontario when I could.

The one thing that struck me about LA was that no matter what the time of day, the freeways were always busy. Where the hell is everyone going?
6   WookieMan   2024 Nov 27, 5:09am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says


I did travel to LA frequently on business after I left San Diego. LAX - worst airport in the world. Would use John Wayne airport or even Ontario when I could.

The one thing that struck me about LA was that no matter what the time of day, the freeways were always busy. Where the hell is everyone going?

Love dogs but LAX is the capitol of support pets/dogs. Last time I was there there was about 50% of passengers with dogs or some other animal. Flipping weird.

Ontario airport is nice and simple. We'll head out to Palm Springs or down to San Diego from there. I also think the local landing and gate fees for the airlines are cheaper so it's cheaper to fly to. Traffic in the LA area is awful from my limited experience. Seems like a solo centric urban area with poor public transportation.

It's probably the worst example of urban development. A ton of single family homes inside the city proper. In Chicago on a clear traffic day you can go from the lake to Cicero in about 10 minutes. Getting to the edge of LA from the Pacific on a no traffic day is probably 30 minutes depending on which direction. It's a massive city in land area, which why it's likely so poorly run.
7   clambo   2024 Nov 27, 6:44am  

I had a friend who lived in Leucadia, later Encinitas. I liked visiting him when I moved to Santa Cruz. I had a friend in Santa Cruz who was from San Diego, and another from Poway.
None of the guys I know from California are jerks; it's interesting how mellow they all are.
I know one guy who moved down there from Santa Cruz and I can't visit him now because he lives with a Latina girlfriend who is a never Trumper and annoying because she talks politics and picks fights.
I remind him sometimes that I am having fun with actual Mexican girls while he lives with a controlling hag of Mexican ancestry.
8   RC2006   2024 Nov 27, 6:53am  

Being a native from LA the thing that bothers me the most about LAX when I visit is the smell especially right outside the exit.
9   socal2   2024 Nov 27, 9:09am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

When I lived in San Diego, I rarely ventured north. Thank goodness for Camp Pendleton defending the border. In fact, I pretty much stayed put in the North County.


Indeed - it is very nice having that big buffer keeping the LA/OC crowd from creeping down and ruining our good time. Sometimes the artillery noise from the base can be annoying on humid days when the sound carries greater distances.

I'm in South Carlsbad (La Costa) and just one exit from Leucadia. We love living here with all the hills, open space, ocean views and quick access to great surf, downtown Encinitas and Carlsbad. Vista and San Marcos are nice too. Still alot of multi-generational growers and greenhouses in Leucadia keeping the area interesting.
10   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2024 Nov 27, 9:26am  

Best climate in the USA. Is it true that Captain Keno’s has closed?
11   socal2   2024 Nov 27, 9:46am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Best climate in the USA. Is it true that Captain Keno’s has closed?


Sadly - yes.

https://thecoastnews.com/after-54-years-captain-kenos-has-closed-for-good/
12   Ceffer   2024 Nov 27, 10:43am  

Calis can preen about the good ole days (never to be revisited except in the nostalgia memory hole) and the wedda. It's bad enough in NorCal, but the SoCal traffic and population density make it an agoraphobic torment. The ocean is always wonderful, which is why it's nice to be close to it at times.

But the wedda, the wedda! It's all bout the wedda. Even the enclaves are getting ratty at the edges, requiring more egregious wealth to keep up the sets.

Also, better have that river of bucks flowing through if you wanna middle class lifestyle in reasonable safety (fast disappearing) that everybody took for granted a few decades ago.

I hesitate to tell people about the niceties we have struggled, saved and aged into, with people in the hoods paying the outlandish prices and property taxes just to scrape by, many needing familial or intergenerational outpatient care to make the grade. The envy hierarchy can be scorching at times in a place where materialism traditionally rules.

I remember that LA was fun as long as you kept moving and didn't expect much from people, but that was when it had a lower population.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0vsrL2wKeY
13   WookieMan   2024 Nov 27, 11:21am  

clambo says

None of the guys I know from California are jerks; it's interesting how mellow they all are.

It's a condescending jerk attitude. Superiority. They act nice to you but think you're shit. At least in LA and SF. I experience this the least in San Diego so I like socal the best.

What I've noticed is going out to eat since I'm obviously traveling. Extremely pompous attitude for below average food. I don't think they're active here anymore, they thought some restaurant was top notch in Palm Springs and I ate there before the recommendation.... hold my napkin and fly to Chicago.

We go out to eat 90% of time out there. Maybe could give one or two places 3 of 5 stars. Chilis or Applebees being a 2. And we go to recommended places. CA is NOT a foodie state even if you all think it is. As much as I hate Chicago, you'll be blown away by the food. Also travel north and hit a Wisconsin supper club. Some are pinkies up, but most are shit hole looking places that have out of this world food.

Also pizza. CA Pizza can eat a rancid horse nut sack. Awful. And no, I'm not a deep dish guy. That's basically lasagna without the noodles. Wisconsin pub pizza is probably #1. Fuck Dave and Barstool, the Northeast is a trash show of shit. Wisconsin really does have the best pizza if you don't go to a modern yuppie place in Milwaukee or Madison. Kozy's is my all time favorite in Mauston, WI outside of Juneau County Park on Castle Rock. Lazy night camping and we grab some pizza.

Good pizza if you're in central WI. Good and bad memories. One of the few times I liked my dad when we'd go up there. Last time I saw my BIL on that trip before he killed himself. That one is a hard one. Weren't best buds but we got along that trip. Fucking bizarre. Life can change in days.
14   Ceffer   2024 Nov 27, 11:30am  

WookieMan says

It's a condescending jerk attitude. Superiority.

Yes, but we have betta wedda than you. LOL! The nice days cause amnesia for the rest. We had months of toxic smoke, and when my wife and I mentioned it, people acted like they didn't know what we were talking about.
15   WookieMan   2024 Nov 27, 12:40pm  

Ceffer says

WookieMan says


It's a condescending jerk attitude. Superiority.

Yes, but we have betta wedda than you. LOL! The nice days cause amnesia for the rest. We had months of toxic smoke, and when my wife and I mentioned it, people acted like they didn't know what we were talking about.

I get along with everyone for the most part unless you hit on my wife. It's just the damn attitude out there. Us midwesterners don't appreciate it. We can come across as foul and loud mouth, but we're nice and don't behave like snakes. That's the CA vibe I get. Look at all your politicians. Maybe not you or other users here, but that's what your neighbors voted for. Harris, Pelosi, Newsom, Schiff, Waters, Swalwell, etc.

I'm embarrassed by Walz living so close to me in MN. Go away. I already have JB Prickzer in my state (spelling intentional). Chicago is a different animal and does not represent IL. No different than LA or SF representing CA. Outside of Cook county IL is not a shit hole. Touch hill billy, yes. Some meth, yes. But Chicago shits on the rest of the state like SF and LA do for you cats. It sucks.

Durbin and dumb ass Duckworth can go away. House reps in IL don't have much power. My house rep is a Democrat but I like her. Honestly think she just picked Democrat because she's black and it's easier to win. Female and black will win the day in the house as a Dem. She's right leaning. No LGTBQ shit or chopping your dick or boobs off type.
16   socal2   2024 Nov 27, 1:50pm  

WookieMan says

Us midwesterners don't appreciate it. We can come across as foul and loud mouth, but we're nice and don't behave like snakes. That's the CA vibe I get. Look at all your politicians. Maybe not you or other users here, but that's what your neighbors voted for. Harris, Pelosi, Newsom, Schiff, Waters, Swalwell, etc.


As a former midwesterner, I think I can chime in.

California is a HUGE state. I find the attitudes and vibes from people in the Bay Area and Los Angeles are quite a bit different than San Diego, parts of Orange County and most of the interior.

Just like there is a HUGE difference in attitudes between the people living in Chicago area and the rest of the state of Illinois. Every time I fly into Chicago or stay the night for business, I am always struck at how shitty and lazy all the service workers seem to be compared to anywhere in California. The people working at Chicago Midway or O'hare driving shuttles, working the airlines, rental car counters and restaurants all seem to have a chip on their shoulder and have absolutely no sense of urgency or customer service. Everything seems slower....

Again, I don't know how you pay the California cost of living in terms of taxes and have all the dysfunction Chicago brings and still stay in the state. You'd save loads of money moving next door to Indiana or Wisconsin and not be hopelessly outnumbered by dopey Liberals and criminals.
17   WookieMan   2024 Nov 27, 3:31pm  

socal2 says

The people working at Chicago Midway or O'hare driving shuttles, working the airlines, rental car counters and restaurants all seem to have a chip on their shoulder and have absolutely no sense of urgency or customer service. Everything seems slower....

I don't rely on them at the airport. I don't check bags or interact with them. TSA pre so I just roll through in under 5 min if that. Occasionally a golf trip I'll check a bag. Park in the garage attached to the airport at Midway. Not poor anymore, so we just walk to the gate in 10 min. Time is money, no buses or public transit for us.

Service outside of the airport in decent neighborhoods or suburbs is solid at restaurant. I've never had bad enough service to tip below 10%. I'm usually 20-25%.

I've found CA to not have menus that are consistent with 90% of the country. Snooty servers. Just my experience. Even in San Diego, even though I like it there. LA and SF can eat shit. Northern CA is more up my alley, but it kind of gets Portland, OR trashy by the Redwoods. Pretty ghetto white trash towns. Been a while since I've done true Norcal.
18   Ceffer   2024 Nov 27, 4:31pm  

There's a difference between the entitled coasties in Cali, too, and the non coasties. Central Valley tends to be nicer and more midwestern-y, unless you settle into a meaner town with a hard nosed clique.

In a place as expensive as Santa Cruz you would expect nothing but elite bronze gods and goddesses, but it tends to be the opposite. My wife seems to think the men are generally yuck unattractive with the superannuated dude surfer hippy thing. It can be hard to tell the trust fund kiddies from the bums with the general bum chic. There are a lot of people there who just scrape by in trailers or sofa surfing. The Section 8 waiting list is a third the size of Santa Cruz itself. There also seem to be a disproportionate number of unwell and unhealthy looking people.

The drug culture and the homeless also assure there are always the weathered and crippled zombies wandering around. You can tell them by the way they walk, as in brain damaged. There is also a large wheelchair crip contingent from the casualties of sports. There are a lot of fit young men with the sports and surfing, but also a lot of the soy castrato types with the wispy beards and stoning.

A bonus is the huge and aggressive lesbian population as well as fatties and Sierra Club sanctimonious wire haired skinnies. Rather than cutting loose, the men and women seem to segregate hard after their fifties, probably because post menopausal crazy cat ladies and general divorces and relationship burnouts. Some of the lesbians seem to consider it a challenge to pick off women from their male relationships.

It's a pretty old and layered place for California, but full of weedy fall down houses because families keep them for generations without maintenance. That doesn't make them cheap.

If you want more antiseptic and yuppie environs, you have to go over to Monterey/ Carmel areas. There are no obvious homeless over there, they don't allow it, and it's more touristy but worse Pacific weather/fog. Also very expensive, because cutesy wootsie in California means extra special expensive.
19   Ceffer   2024 Nov 27, 7:49pm  

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