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Delaware Medical Freedom Alliance, posted March 15, 2023
https://rumble.com/v2dbvpw-dr.-harvey-risch-md-phd.html

- This was part of a virtual town hall hosted by Delaware Medical Freedom Alliance (DEMFA), www.DelawareMFA.org on March 13, 2023.
- Dr. Harvey Risch is Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Scientist in Epidemiology (Chronic Diseases); Affiliated Faculty, Yale Institute for Global Health https://ysph.yale.edu/profile/harvey-risch/ His Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrHarveyRisch and Telegram: https://t.me/HarveyRischMDPhD
- See also archived posts to-date by Dr. Risch on the Brownstone Institute site:
https://brownstone.org/author/harvey-rische/
- An artist with a studio and art gallery in Lewes, Delaware, Abraxas Hudson is President of the Delaware Medical Freedom Alliance. https://www.delawaremfa.org/the-team .

Three Year Anniversary
Lessons Learned & Future Concerns
Virtual Town Hall Event

ABRAXAS HUDSON: So the next speaker, Dr. Harvey Risch. Dr. Risch earned his medical degree at UC San Diego. Subsequently he completed his PhD in biomathematics. Dr. Risch then completed a post-doctoral fellowship in cancer epidemiology at the University of Washington in Seattle. In 1991 Dr. Risch moved to Yale School of Public Health where he became a professor of epidemiology. Dr. Risch has published more than 400 peer-reviewed scientific research papers which have been cited by other scientists more than 46,000 times. He has a research h-index of 102, is a fellow of the American College of Epidemiology, and is an elected member of the Connecticut Academy of Science and Engineering. Dr. Risch, it's a pleasure to have you on this evening.

DR. HARVEY RISCH: Well thank you, It's great to be with you and with all the viewers. I'm going to title my remarks tonight as Three Years to Flatten the Earth. And I say that kind of sarcastically.

We've been fighting a war for the last 3 years. And this war has taken on many fronts. Of course, we're fighting a war against this, this infection, but we're also, we've also been fighting a war against health, a war against the public, a war against information, a war against speech, and a war against truth.

So I'm going to describe the pandemic in one easy to understand sentence.

NIH[1] and the Department of Defense funded dangerous, prohibited gain-of-function virus research, the engineered virus escaped from the lab, the DOD claimed that it was a bioweapon and it seized control to assert military not public health management of the pandemic, then DOD covered up the cause of the pandemic, suppressed early treatments, and forced this toxic, weakly effective vaccine, so-called vaccine, onto the population as a wartime countermeasure, not, it's not as a treatment, and without informed consent, and then hundreds of thousands of Americans subsequently died or got injured a result.

So that's the sentence. Now let me expand on that a little bit.

So here we have NIH and the Department of Defense, the DOD is working through its agency called DARPA[2] which is a major research agency within the Department of Defense. They funneled more than 60 million dollars to the Wuhan Institute of Virology through the EcoHealth Alliance. We've all heard this, it's all been in the public media as far as we know. And what they did is all written out in a project called Project Defuse, D-E-F-U-S-E. If you Google that you'll get a link to the protocol and you can read it and it says exactly how they did the gain-of-function research to make these viruses become human infective and, and toxic.[3]

OK. And if you also— these, these groups published two scientific medical research papers in 2015, 2016 under the first author Menachery, M-E-N-A-C-H-E-R-Y.[4] And if— you don't have to worry about the technical parts of the papers, just go back to the acknowledgment sections, the paragraphs at the end of the papers, where they say that even though these were done during the period that this research was prohibited by the government, they still nevertheless did it under approval of NIH.

And we don't know if Dr. Fauci actually signed off on it or somebody at his direction signed off on it, but these were approved by NIH during the time that this was not allowed, not, not proper allowed.

OK. So then, this was an engineered virus. And we know it's an engineered virus because there's a long artificial strand of the genetic code of the virus that's so long that it could not have happened by chance and does not exist in any other organism among more than 100,000 organisms that are in in NIH searchable data base. It exists only in one other place and that is in a patent for Moderna from 2017. There's no way that a patent sequence that's so long could not occur by chance ends up in a virus unless it was engineered.

OK. And the function that that stretch did is, it gave the virus the ability to infect human lung cells. And that's what, that's what's called gain-of-function, when you promote an organism to be able to be more toxic or more infectious. And so that's what it was.

Then they claimed this was a bioweapon. Now there's various different definitions of bioweapons and this because it causes human harm could be construed as a bioweapon, but they militarized it, took the control away from public health, and that means that every action that has gone on underneath what we think of as all a regulatory, all captured regulatory agencies and government, really was underneath the control of the Department of Defense. And so we have to be paying attention to who is really controlling the narrative in this, and it wasn't even necessarily the government agencies that we think of as the villains, that there's a level above that, which is the Department of Defense.

And then they covered all this up. They covered up the origin of the virus, and they did that, we know that because of the so-called proximal origins paper[5] that was published early, in February of 2020, that was orchestrated by Tony Fauci and a number of virologists who had expressed the understanding that this was an engineered virus, to say, no, it wasn't engineered, it came from an animal transmission to human and could not have possibly been engineered, and so on, and this was of course a coverup for the origin that was required. And Dr. Robert Redfield, who was head of the, Director of the CDC in that period, has testified to Congress about this. And they covered this up because of what I refer to as the state-controlled media and the state-controlled social media and the pharma-captured FDA, all of this was covered up.

6:24
They covered up and suppressed the efficacy of the early treatments like hydroxychloriquine and ivermectin and steroids, as we heard, vitamin D, and so on. These treatments absolutely provide significant, substantial benefit for keeping covid patients out of the hospital and from dying. And the information on this is definitive. I've written a number of reports on this. The original papers are all in public domain, and it's easy to understand if you take the time to go through this.

OK. Then they called these vaccines countermeasures. When you're giving military countermeasures, informed consent is not needed. Government approval is not needed. The fact that the FDA approved these things has basically been a show to create a fear for the public, to make it look like there was some semblance of normal medical function, when in fact these vaccines could have been inflicted on the population. Informed consent is not needed, and individual consent is not needed, and approval is not needed, none of this is needed under military countermeasures.

7:30
So we have to address, how much of everything we've observed was theater? Was it theater for the
doctors on the review panels? Was it theater for all of us who were the victims of all this? We have to be asking those questions.

OK. And then, when it came down to actually using these vaccines, so-called vaccines, we even know already that they did not work to do what they were supposed to do, which is to reduce transmission, because the CDC even came out on August 11th of last year saying that the vaccine, the primary series, does not control transmission, does not control spread, and the boosters only work transiently and their benefit wanes.

And for me as a public health person, anything that's transient and wanes is not a sustained public health benefit.

8:18
So here we have it. We trusted scientists and the regulatory agencies who made a series of very bad decisions. Those decisions backfired. And the people involved both covered up their incompetence
as well as believed that the outbreak was so bad that they had to rush with their supported cronies, the pharma industry, the vaccine industry, to push out a damaging product to the entire world in order to protect from what they themselves created through their incompetence.

And the basis of knowledge of what these would do was reflected perfectly in Debra Birx's famous statement about the vaccines, we hoped they would work. That was her degree of evidence.[6]

And so because all of this incompetence and malfeasance, hundreds of thousands of Americans died unnecessarily, and hundreds of thousands more were appreciably damaged, their health, they lost their health. And this was done to cover up the technically brilliant but commonsense incompetence of the elite agencies and researchers who did this.

9:34
So what we learned from this is that naive people, and I include myself in that, who believed the ideals of our American civilization, that even if our country is imperfect, we strive, we strive for equality, we strive for human rights, and we strive for increasing standard of living, and we found that in fact we're just another corrupt banana republic just like all the others around the world.

And I ask, where's our Congress been through all of this? OK. There's been only one person in all of the Congress who has stood up reliably to push back on this and where he couldn't push back, only to document what he could, and that's Senator Ron Johnson.[7]

So where's everybody else? Where's— are they bought off by pharma PAC[8] money? or are they being threatened by the Department of Defense? Is Congress being threatened by the DOD? Is the FDA being threatened by the DOD? Is CDC being threatened by DOD? Where, where are these forces coming from?

We really have a government that's been running amok, and even the new congressional investigations that we've been watching for the last week or longer, they really seemed like theater, not like prosecution. OK. This is a big problem. There's no point in doing a January 6th theater from the other side of the aisle. That's not what this is about. This is about finding the cause and the actors who did this and prosecuting their crimes against humanity.

Now I don't want to end up just on the topic of doom and gloom in all this because I think we still have where to go in all this. We need to be organized to combat the nefariousness of what we've experienced.

And I want to say that the natural urge is to protest, to go out, organize, go on the street, lobby in front of governments, write op-eds, and all of this stuff, to protest what our government has been doing. And for those of you who followed in the non-state-controlled media, you know that there have been hundreds of thousands, many hundreds of thousands of people all over Europe protesting, the truckers protesting in Canada, and so on. And this got almost nowhere. That all this did was make people know that they weren't alone, that there's lots of people who believe and understand the evidence the way they do. But the government— all the governments have just been laughing at this and basically saying, we're going to do what we want to do and the only way that you're ever going to stop us is find an arm of government that will follow your values, and the only one that's left to us is the courts, and even that has been difficult and challenging, but there have been some successes.

So I want to say that our approach should be not that, but basically to throw sand in the gears. And that is, not comply. You have to stand up for your own values, for what you think is right, what's right for you and what's right for the country. And in order to do that, everybody needs a Plan B. That means you have to be prepared for the consequences of how you stand up.

So if there's a risk that you'll lose your job, then you have to have lined up some alternative way of surviving under the circumstances, some independent way of flipping into that at least for some temporary period. Because if one or two people in a hospital quit because of vaccine mandates, it won't do anything. But if 10 or 20% of the nursing staff quit because of vaccine mandates, the hospital will come to a halt. Hospitals cannot function like that, that way. Pilots, if 10 or 20% of pilots refuse to be vaccinated, the airline industry will come to a halt.

You need to have large numbers of people who understand that the only way to protest is to protest with their own actions, and not in the easy way, it's very easy to go out and protest on the street by yelling and having speeches, and the speech I'm giving now is very easy to make, too. What's necessary is to stand up and block as much as you can through your own actions, through your own legal actions, what you can do to interfere with the process that's been running around suppressing our constitutional rights.

OK. Now I'll say that we have been given some gifts in this, that the first gift is that, the virus is going to virus, as they say, and ultimately, the virus seeks to optimize its way of infecting a whole population, and it does that by making people mildly ill, not very ill. If you get very sick, you stay home and you only infect your family members. If you're mildly ill, where you're only coughing and sneezing, then you tend to go to work, you're out there in the public and so you can infect both your family members and everybody you interact with. So viruses don't want to make people too sick, they want to make people just-right sick so that they infect as many people as possible.

And that's in fact what we got with omicron, which is when the emergency ended. Because omicron is an annoying, obnoxious illness, flu-like illness to get through, I've had it, I can speak to that well, but it's not generating a life-threatening illness to almost everybody who gets it.

And for the people who are really at serious high risk of doing poorly with omicron, there's as we said medications and treatments that can be used to keep those people from getting hospitalized or dying.

Nevertheless, omicron was a gift to us.

15:16
The second thing is that the current variant that's spreading, the XBB.1.5 variant, has been been around for quite a long time and almost nothing is pushing it out, has pushed it out, which makes me think it's getting close to the optimal virus for the population, which means that people are going to end up getting very immune to it, and that means people, the virus itself is going to go down in prevalence.

Now I've seen the CDC says that XBB.1.5.1, which is an offshoot, may be pushing back. we'll have to see, that's going to take another 3 months to know, really, or maybe less. In any event I'm very optimistic we're in a much better state now with this infection than we've been at any other time.

15:57
And finally, there is one other gift that we've gotten from this, and that is that these repurposed medications that we've been speaking of, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, steroids, like oral and inhaled steroids, vitamin D, zinc, vitamin C, and other things, these medications likely also work for other respiratory virus infections. And I've had a number of colleagues who told me they've been using them for their RSV infections and for flu infections and have had very good success with these repurposed and over-the-counter medications and supplements. And so I'm cautiously optimistic that we will, over time, develop more knowledge that respiratory virus infections can be treated starting very early during symptoms, can be treated by these and other approaches. There's also nasal sprays and mouthwash gargles and so on that will suppress the virus and suppress serious consequences of the virus. So I'm very optimistic about where we're going with that also.

17:13
Well, let me just finish by saying that it's well known that, that the Soviet dissent Natan Sharanksy
said that under the USSR totalitarianism, 30% of the population disbelieved the government but could not speak out, and 30% of the population were what we call useful idiots and supported the government and were happy to be part of the game plan, and 40% in the middle kind of didn't know what to believe or not but still couldn't speak out, either.

Here in the West during the pandemic the 30% of the population has not believed the government also, and not gone along with the diktats of the public health infrastructure administration.

And I think that for me, many of us were scared just like everybody else over the propaganda that was dumped on us wholesale and continuously for all of these 3 years. Nevertheless, we still recognized that something was amiss, used our brains and our critical thinking to decide for ourselves that this was not right, that this was propaganda and not truth, and in spite of being afraid, we went on our rational considerations, rather than our emotional fear considerations. And that's crucial.

And so you have to have to remember, we are the 30% and we are not going to be silent. We speak out.
18:32

ABRAXAS HUDSON: Wow. Thank you, Dr. Risch. Truly amazing. You know they've always told us, throughout the last 3 years, trust the experts. Well, you are the type of expert we'd like to trust. So thank you for being brave.

So as I said earlier, this is our 10th Covid Truth Town Hall event and typically at the beginning of our events I put up about 10 slides to bring people current as to the most latest, you know, the latest insanity. And one of your news pieces, July 27th of 2020, you wrote in Newsweek, the key to treating covid 19 exists, why aren't we using it? So I'm asking you, was that one of the big wakeup moments for you when you realized, treatment exists, being suppressed, what is happening?

DR. HARVEY RISH: Yes. What happened was, when I published the paper in the American Journal of Epidemiology at the end of May 2020 on hydroxychloroquine,[9] then I started getting reporters saying, oh, no, don't you know that it doesn't work? And citing these various studies that were pushback. Except that I was reviewing outpatient treatment, so for people at high risk, who have, you know, older age or chronic conditions that put them at high risk, and I was looking at treatment starting within the first 5 or so days of symptoms, and they're telling me about where this wasn't effective in hospital patients. And it's totally irrelevant.

And so I'd say— Well, you know, I'm used to reporters being incompetent, I had that over 40 years of a career reporting on my cancer research, so when this happened at first I thought, this just is more incompetence. But I gradually realized that this was systematic, and therefore there was an agenda being pushed here coming from above somewhere. And this really became more obvious after I wrote the Newsweek essay.

And really, the bottom line is, in the middle of pandemic, when you have no other treatments and there's no opportunity cost, all you have to show is something that's safe. You don't have to show that there's efficacy, you don't have to prove it with multiple randomized trials. You have, it's good if you have some evidence that it's beneficial. But the fact that these medications, and ivermectin later on also has been used in tens of billions of doses in hundreds of millions of people for more than half a century, that is absolute evidence of safety. That doctors feel free to use these medications all over the world without doing EKGs, automatic EKGs on everybody, without, you know— They follow good medical practice, standard of care for other illnesses like rheumatoid arthritis and lupus, and malaria prevention, which is the main usage that it was used for, called [inaudible] Sunday, it's over-the-counter in much of the world, especially in Africa.

So these are completely safe medications. And the fact that this was claimed to be not EUA-able[10] unless you came with multiple large randomized controlled trials was irrelevant and insane and violated the 20th century Cures Act[11] which was passed in 2016 which says in its Section 3022 that regulatory agencies shall investigate all types of real world evidence as well as randomized trials
in support of their decisions. I mean, it's a little bit more convoluted writing, reasoning in there, but that's the gist of what it's saying.

So this was all a campaign to push back, to suppress these medications. CDC put out a— FDA put out a false website claiming that these medica—, the outpatient use of hydroxychloroquin was dangerous for cardiac rhythm issues, and then in the small text underneath it says, we base this on one study, one study of hospitalized patients. And this is telling you immediately that they had no systematic data on outpatients because they would have cited the outpatient data if they had it.

So this is all a big lie. That website is still up on the FDA's website. It's a big lie, and they're still hiding behind that lie and getting away with it because I seem to be the only person around who's making the obvious statement, just read what they say, and it's so obvious that it's a lie.

22:42
ABRAXAS HUDSON: Truly amazing. So early on during our town hall series, by talking to people and realizing what was happening, we realized we basically only have a few brave doctors here in Delaware, so we used the FLCCC protocol [12] and did our own research and came up with our own over-the-counter kit because basically, we realized, people are going to their doctors, the doctor says, if your lips turn blue go to the hospital, sorry you've got covid, government's telling you to test, but I can't do anything for you. Well, these people would be absolutely terrified, as we know. So we created a kit, the basics, D, C, zinc, quercetin, Pepsid,[13] Zyrtec to shut down the cytokine storm.

And it's amazing. I guarantee you, we gave our kit out, hundreds, maybe even thousands, I don't even know, it's hard to say. Personally I spent thousands of hours at Walgreen's and the health food store packing these kits and giving them to people, and then we shared them, you know, the photograph of our protocol. And it's amazing, I can say that I don't believe anyone who used our kit ended up in the hospital. And that's because there was such a vacuum of practicing doctors, it was just a crime against humanity. One of the many, right?

DR. HARVEY RISCH: That's right. And you quickly know and learn that viruses are treatable, but not by single agents. You know, AIDs isn't treated by a single anti-viral. Anti-viral treatments require multiple agents to clobber the virus from multiple pathways. And that's what we've done through these regimens, both yours, and the ivermectin hydroxychloroquine regimens, they're not just single bullets, they have to be used in combined regimens. And they work exceedingly well.

ABRAXAS HUDSON: Absolutely. And there's a point that you made that we've also shared at our events, and it's just so important. As you know, if one or two people stand up, it's very easy to pick them off, but if people could really start standing up together, that's just so simple, right? You join forces, stand up together and break the machine.

DR. HARVEY RISCH: That's right.

ABRAXAS HUDSON: And then the machine will beg for you to return, and you might even get a raise. [laughs] Well, thank you, Dr. Risch.