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Los Angeles Renter says

All the democrats have to run on come election time is this...

Take out your pay stubs middle class americans! Now compare your paystub from Jan 2012 to December 2011!

We wanted that paycheck to increase in 2012.. not decrease... but Republicans decided to tax you the middle class instead of the top 1%.

It would guarantee a democratic victory.

You must live in La La Land! If the Democrats are so inept that they can't even do one damn thing with out the Republicans sorting them out. Then what makes you so certain, that a Majority Vote would trust a full house of those turkeys running things.

Besides, what would change, and how would you quantify a "Victory" anyway. The mean ole republican bullies, will still be in Washington to tell them all "NO!".

Now you're out of your league, put down that bull horn and go home, and leave all of the complicated work of making policy up to the Pros, that know how at least get their agenda done.

Go on, now go on...

Say there's an occupy Wall Street rally going on Elm street Missouri, I hear they put out a good spread. Even if they can't find Manhattan with a GPS phone and Google maps.

Just saying people will vote with their wallets during a recession... Letting payroll tax breaks lapse is a tax on the poor and middle class, while it only amounts to crumbs for the wealthy... Since any income over $106800 a year doesnt get the 4.2% ss tax... It hardly affects someone making millions... But instantly subtracts close to $3000 out of a middle class family making 100k a year combined. $3000 tax break for a family making $100k is a nice family vacation... Car payment for a year... Upgrade to a home.... All money that will be spent into the economy.

OK But just to be sure, the phrase, "The Party of No" was coined, during the two years(09-10) that the Democrats controlled both Congress and the Senate.

The jobs bill is just a bunch of temporary construction jobs to pad union coffers, which is why it won't get passed.

If we want to revive the economy, we need to ban immigration, send foreigners home, and stop importing things that we should be making ourselves (espically cars). I.E. - we need manufacturing jobs.

Energy and Food comodity unchecked unregulated prices are the single driver of this depressed ecconomy.

While it's great for those that have money to invest and play in them. Are raking money in hand over fist, while those on the middle and bottom of the economic food chain. Get more and more economic depressed.

Those investing could care less, if the rest of the country is working or not, as they are not purveyors of widgets, wares and services, (Things that typically take a hit in economic down turns) as their investment is safe. The world needs them no matter how poor the people may get. New world Socialist order will intervene and use tax payers money to feed the poor, and transport them to communal shovel projects.(Or Not!) Where the recipient will have to work off his free meal in labor.

Make no mistake the World is going no where as long as this Ground Hog day keeps playing out.

The DOW will see 7K again before it sees 14K with the current SOP.

zzyzzx says

If we want to revive the economy, we need to ban immigration, send foreigners home

Absolutely wrong, and can be shown by studies. See multiple threads on this. This talking point needs to be buried.

zzyzzx says

stop importing things that we should be making ourselves (espically cars

This is silly and not even a good talking point. The US is where European and Asian carmakers outsource their manufacturing. A large percentage of cars driven in the US are made in the US, and we export some too.

corntrollio says

This is silly and not even a good talking point. The US is where European and Asian carmakers outsource their manufacturing. A large percentage of cars driven in the US are made in the US, and we export some too.

Importing millions of cars while exporting maybe a thousand is not a good economic plan. The mantra "they build them here now" doesn't work when they only make small % of their total here".

I.E. - find an Infiniti or Scion that's made in USA. I think there is one Mitsubishi that's made in USA, and only one Mazda car that's a rebadged Ford as well. Plus almost all the design work, plus engine and transmission manufacturing is done in Japan, how does that help us??