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1 anon_25c83   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 9:13pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

You knew you got caught in a lie in the other global warming denialist thread you started a new one. How come Google's cached copy of the page in September contradicts what you said about iwog?
2 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 18, 3:36pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

just any guy says
If people in high COL states are so financially stretched thin because they bought way too much house and then can't take some hit on their tax deductions, that's on them. This is why so many people are screaming because they're hanging on by a thread so they can have that house on the hill and the Beamer. This is the reckoning for reckless financial spending, and I love it.


Well, that's like only 3/4 of the population, so what's the big deal?
3 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 18, 3:33pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Sniper says
errc says
How would you know?

You only joined September 22.


Ever hear of the term, Lurker?

Top definition
lurker
A lurker is someone that follows the forum but doesn’t post.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lurker


You misspelled Failed Loser
4 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 18, 3:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

Sniper says
errc says
You mean like the comment you directed at Obama where you said “Bye Bye nigger boy!!”


Top definition
Nigger
Nih/./guh/ n. 1. term used to described any dark skinned people but generally reserved for those of african descent.


https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nigger

Why does errc have such an issue with FACTS??

Onvacation says
errc says
directed at Obama where you said “Bye Bye ni...!!”

Why do you want to keep repeating that ?


I wonder that same thing. Errc has some sort of MAJOR attraction and crush on that past member here? Why is that?


Wow.
5 anon_7c0c9   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 3:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

I want to know how many more times Goran is going to be allowed to lie before he's removed as moderator.
6 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 18, 3:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Why doesn’t the tax plan address the ISIS-like Christian Church and their leeching off working class America by not paying taxes?

The Founding Fathers are turning over in their graves. They would take up arms against such anti American behavior if they were alive today
7 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 18, 3:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_7c0c9 says
It appears Goron has just been caught in yet another lie.


Wouldn’t be the first time.
8 anon_7c0c9   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 3:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

It appears Goron has just been caught in yet another lie.
9 anon_30423   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 18, 2:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_30423 says
this comment has been jailed for incivility


Looks like someone is abusing the uncivil button again. Or did Goran change the rules again?
10 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 2:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_3b28c says
Goran_K says
I just proved that it doesn't hurt the middle class


Actually you proved it does. More than half of the middle class use itemize. So you showed the exact opposite of what you claim.

Goran_K says
The only people I see crying about this are people who live in the Bay Area, SoCal, or any other pricey part of California


Open your eyes then.


Bull.

Less than 30% of all under $100,000 earners Itemize. If you lower that to $30,000 a year it drops to 7%.

The SALT changes actually hit rich people the hardest and doesn’t even touch the majority of $100,000 and under earners. Stop watching CNN
11 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 2:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

NewOldUser says
Goran_K says
You mean states aren't subject to austerity? Why?


The wrong people will get hit by that. Yes, there are bad budgets and bad spending in CA. Federal funds are also wastefully dispersed in CA. Remember, the entire government is connected. There is no separate country.

If you are advocating a state bankruptcy in the largest state economy in the country, that is a very strange position to take in relation to MAGA.

It’s already here. The CA pension unfunded liabilities are looking Illinois-like. The private tech sector is saving California from falling off the cliff (something Illinois lacks). But for how long?
12 anon_30423   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 18, 2:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says
fuck I'd hate to be her, she must be one ugly wildebeest to stay with that lying POS.


You think?

Maybe he went overseas to land a nice Asian ladyboy. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it would explain why he’s so miserable and uncivil


Are you saying the ladyboy Ironman landed wasn't big enough to satisfy his asshole?
13 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 18, 1:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

anon_30423 says
Sniper says
I don't think he will go out on a date with you, I think he's married.
fuck I'd hate to be her, she must be one ugly wildebeest to stay with that lying POS.


You think?

Maybe he went overseas to land a nice Asian ladyboy. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it would explain why he’s so miserable and uncivil
14 anon_30423   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 18, 1:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says
I don't think he will go out on a date with you, I think he's married.
fuck I'd hate to be her, she must be one ugly wildebeest to stay with that lying POS.
15 anon_30423   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 18, 1:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says
with your Ironman alt
everybody knows Ironman isn't here anymore, that asshole is off fucking goats. I hope that the lying piece of shit never returns.
16 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 18, 1:18pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
So the whole "SALT Is going to make poor people pay more" is a bit of a stretch since they overwhelmingly take the standard deduction anyway, and even if they do itemize, wow, a solid $50 a month hit.


Goran_K says
Lots of dishonesty being spread here.


That was the point I was making above. Most people don't even understand any of these tax proposals, they are just reacting to a specific sound bite from their MSM network of choice.

The majority of the middle class will get a benefit. Obviously, the ones making more money will see a bigger benefit? That's should be common sense.

What do these complainers want? Do they want the 47% of the population that doesn't pay ANY federal tax to get a tax break?
17 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 18, 1:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Sniper says
PCGyver says
anon_fad35 Is sniper


Why are you always wrong?

Oh, and unlike you, I don't delete the comments I made after a few days.

Why do you delete your comments?


You mean like the comment you directed at Obama where you said “Bye Bye nigger boy!!” Under your Ironman alt?
18 anon_f1625   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 18, 10:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

FP says
NewOldUser,

Yeah, you got screwed, buddy. How's this for being on topic?


He/She got screwed at least twice - first time was at birth.
19 anon_13ce6   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 18, 10:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says
Are you transgender or transracist?


All I can tell you is that I don't like to fuck goats like Ironman, too bad he's not here, I really miss that goat fucker.
20 anon_13ce6   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 18, 9:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_13ce6 says
Onvacation says
Yeah. We remember what happened to roberto, logan, and gary.


No I don't, care to remind me? Did that piece of shit Ironman run them off. That guy was the ultimate looser. Glad he isn't here anymore.


I have it on good authority that Ironman liked to do goats. I guess that's why he's not here anymore, too busy fucking goats.
21 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 9:44am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_3b28c says
Absolutely nobody is saying that eliminating the SALT deductions will hurt the poor. It will hurt the middle class, however, and THAT is what people are saying.


I just proved that it doesn't hurt the middle class. It actually will have very very little effect on them in most states not named California. If you want to complain about high tax burdens, and actually live in California, you're pointing your finger at the wrong people.

The only people I see crying about this are people who live in the Bay Area, SoCal, or any other pricey part of California.
22 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 9:38am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

NewOldUser says
On the other, trickle-down has not historically materialized hence the moniker "voodoo economics."


Trickle down does absolutely work. There is more personal wealth in the Western World than there has been individually in recorded human history across any nation on the Earth. Just because there are poor people doesn't mean that a highly profitable and hot private sector ISN'T a good thing.

Apple has a market cap approaching a Trillion dollars. How many people does the company employ? How many have cushy benefits plans? How many have bought nice homes in the Bay Area due to their huge salaries? How is this not an example of trickle down economics?
23 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 9:37am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

NewOldUser says
The states are not going to simply reduce their taxes. Real life doesn't work that way.


You mean states aren't subject to austerity? Why? If you live in California still, or any high tax state that imposes a high individual or corporate tax burden, you really should ask yourself why you think your statement above is true.
24 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 18, 9:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Booger says
NewOldUser says
To clarify, I'm actually losing about $40k in reductions.


It's a poor practice to expect your government cheese to be unending. The mortgage interest deduction needs to be phased out.


Agree which is why we need to stop giving the church a free ride. They’ve been harming the country and subverting the Constitution on our dime for far too long. Tax the Church. No more free ride Socialism for anti-American institutions
25 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 9:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Democrats have been trying to claim the SALT deduction is some sort of poor people savior. That's simply not true. It's actually wealthier Americans who benefit. How do I know? It's because I'm one of those Americans and have gone over the math with my accountant. First off most people don't itemize, this is just a fact. Secondly the deductions are worth far more to people in the highest tiers than compared to people in the lower tiers.



From WaPO (a leftist learning website):
"Look at the last column, which shows the percentage of the deduction received by various income levels. Taxpayers making less than $100,000 may comprise 53 percent of the tax filers, but they get less than 25 percent of the deductions. Tax filers making more than $100,000 get more than 75 percent."

By far the largest contributors to the tax system are the wealthy, overwhelmingly so. I know Romney got skewered for this in 2012, but he wasn't lying.

Here's another table that shows the actual SALT impact across various tax brackets.



See those higher tax brackets? Yeah we're talking 10 to 20 times the hit compared to some guy making $50,000 at an average W2 job.

So the whole "SALT Is going to make poor people pay more" is a bit of a stretch since they overwhelmingly take the standard deduction anyway, and even if they do itemize, wow, a solid $50 a month hit. That's about the monthly impact of the recent gas tax for most commuters in Los Angeles, but Democrats are gleefully onboard with that. Not to mention the extra $25 to $175 per vehicle on top.

Lots of dishonesty being spread here.
26 anon_25c83   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 18, 8:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says
Iwog has been talking about the ice melting for years. He said the arctic would be ice free in 5 years.


Yes you said that already but I never read him saying all the ice would melt in 5 years. You lie because he's not here to call you on your bs.
27 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 18, 7:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
anon_7c0c9 says
Its a pity for the last 70 odd years under American leadership, the world has been a peaceful and prosperous place. Now thanks to Trump, he has hastened the decline of America and gladly handed over the reins to Russia and China. The worst president ever.

^^^ Deleted by Goran to enforce the site's political agenda ^^^

Just another alt right echo chamber censored to prevent people from disagreeing.


Uh I didn’t delete that comment. You do know that uncivil is available to everyone. If I had the ability I would actually unjail that comment and a few others.

I only delete comments where it’s becoming a back and forth off topic personal battle. Even then I try to be very judicious about it.


Amazing. Another lie by Goran!

It never ends
28 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 17, 8:01pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Strategist says
There is no such thing as a house for $500K in some parts of the county,


You need to get out and see the rest of the country, prices in the real world aren't like CA. The median house price in the US is $315K.

Strategist says
What do you do?


Move out of CA, you'll be a lot happier and have more money.
29 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 17, 7:28pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

NewOldUser says
Property Tax - capped at $10k?
MI limited to $500k on new purchases as interest rates are predictably going to rise? Wow...

What's good about this plan for middle class families again???


What if you're a renter, which many middle class families are. Does the increase to $24K standard deduction help them?

Also, how many middle class families buy $500K+ houses? Do you know what the median house price is in the US?
30 anon_7c0c9   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 17, 5:52pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

I Just read through all the jail comments and Patrick, you should be ashamed of yourself. I have always been one of your supporters and even met you one time. I've also met justme in person a long time ago and if someone as reasonable and non-offensive as him needs to constantly walk on eggshells to avoid triggering your psychopathic moderator, you're done. It's finished. What you own is a circle jerk of trump supporters who are easily triggered and just itching to put someone in jail.

You must have worms in your head to do this. It's so unreasonable that there's no explanation.
31 justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 17, 4:11pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

The uncvil button abusers are like East German Stasi informants, Goran_K is like Erick Honecker, and patnet #politics now has all the freedom of East Germany. Mr. Patrick, tear down that wall!
32 justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 17, 3:34pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says
t's not really that strange. We're trying to prevent "back and forth insults" where someone says "You're a moron" and then "No way, you're an idiot" for 20 post straight.


But that is not what happened, Goran_K. I stated that you were not qualified to be moderator, ONCE, and you immediately used your new dictatorial powers to censor (delete and/or jail) my comment, which exactly proved my point about you. You vastly overstepped your intended authority, proving once and for all you do not have the acumen to be moderator. And yet, here you still are. Did I get an apology? Did I get unjailed? Did I get undeleted? Have you become a new and different and better person (or moderator)? I think the answers are: no, no, no and "I doubt it".
33 Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 17, 3:05pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_13ce6 says
Goran_K says

To leftist, I fucking hate these people.


So why do stay on this forum and debate with them.
34 anon_7c0c9   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 17, 3:01pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran is trying to dominate the conversation which was predictable considering his personality. I have some experience with forum moderation and this shows why you can't have someone with thin skin and a dishonest streak moderating conversations. This will blow up again and again until he's gone.
35 Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 17, 2:57pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says

I clearly defined 5 different types of people who fit the leftist definition that I absolutely despise. If you fall into one of those descriptions, then we can have a debate on why you're wrong.

So which one are you? Healthy at any weight? Gender is socially constructed? Let's have a debate.


Goran, you are like Trump. Unable to concentrate on a topic. I am not sure if you have the attention span to make arguments. You are everywhere with your arguments, from Franken and Takei. Can I ban you from my threads for being totally irrelevant to the topic.
36 anon_7c0c9   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 17, 2:52pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says
Last warning. I'm not going to entertain trolls today.


Had enough yet Patrick? He's just getting started.
37 anon_61c8a   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 17, 1:17pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says
No they aren't Iwog.

Yay! That's the first time you called me iwog, but not the first time you've been wrong.

That last time I heard fat asses in politics claiming to be healthy were Trump and Chris Christie.
I'm not watching that Tucker Carlson video. It's 11 minutes long and appears to be terrible.
The OP claimed that Trump stood for isolationism. It didn't say that he is an isolationist because he is renegotiating a trade deal.
The tax cuts are a huge giveaway to the rich, and anything given back to the poor/working classes will be a pittance and will eventually be matched with reduced benefits, like cuts to SS and medicare. Nobody said that tax cuts for the poor are tax cuts for the rich, as you wrote.
Furthermore, anybody who looks at the tax cuts being proposed and characterizes them as cuts for the poor is a liar or a moron.
38 lostand confused   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 17, 9:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Tim Aurora says
Its a pity for the last 70 odd years under American leadership, the world has been a peaceful and prosperous place. Now thanks to Obama, he has hastened the decline of America and gladly handed over the reins to Russia and China. The worst president ever

Fixed. Trump is trying to claw us back.
39 Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 17, 6:19am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

georgeliberte says
Wow, that will give the yuan a prestigious boost!


Its a pity for the last 70 odd years under American leadership, the world has been a peaceful and prosperous place. Now thanks to Trump, he has hastened the decline of America and gladly handed over the reins to Russia and China. The worst president ever.
40 bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 17, 5:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Strategist says
Now, the Saudis need us if they want to defeat the Shiites, and transform themselves into a productive society without oil.


Is it really crowded up in your brain with santa clause, the easter bunny, and sugar plum fairies taking up so much room?
41 FP   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 16, 6:14pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

NewOldUser says
This plan sucks. Period. I fully support Trump, but this shit is a total slap in the face.


Sucks to be stupid, eh?
42 anon_7c234   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 16, 12:28pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist says
You think if Hillary was President, corruption would suddenly come to an end?


I didn't say that, but you said I said that because that's the shit you roll with. Try answering only to what I said ..... you won't because reasons, because COMMUNISM! or some such drivel. Try to keep up.

Strategist says
The negative issues you perceive would just disappear?


You're so confused when you listen to yourself lie about what other people say, but that's how you roll. Here's a translation you won't be able to contend with honestly: The negatives singular to Trump would by definition have to disappear if the Douchebag weren't in a position of power to cause them. Duh.But you can't speak about Trump. Just like all the TrumpCucks you run like cowards. Better you just presume to attack an alternative that doesn't exist. It works for you.

Strategist says
You got your vote, and that's all you get.


Uh huh, you sure did bucko. You got a plutocrat trust fund secrecy laden retard sending his idiot children out into the world to represent a nation whose populace voted against him. He nominates a clown for judge who's never sat on a case and is deemed unfit by the ABA. He underfunds and understaffs and undermines the State Department and the Justice Department. He scarfs up unskilled worker visas for his own private businesses. The only person he hasn't attacked publicly is an ex KGB agent who routinely assassinates his opposition. You got a winner there, dude.

There are no less than nine past/present members of his administration/campaign team with unassailable ties to Russian money. He wants to destroy free press so bad he's willing to sic the Federal government on the parent company of CNN because being the whinning cunt that he is he can't take a punch. He's going to fistfuck the working class so hard they will go to ApocalypseFuck for therapy.
43 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 7:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
errc says

Again with the lying.

Patrick never censored the post where Sniper/Ironman called Obama a nigger. All of his posts were scrubbed wheN Patrick banned him for trolling his site with personal attacks 24/7.

This is provable. Simply ask @Patrick to confirm that he removed the post in question for being uncivil, and I’ll retract the accusations that you are lying.

Simple enough


If Patrick confirms what you're saying is correct about the Obama N-word comment, then of course I'll admit I was wrong. But in the grand scheme of things, it's no big deal to me, but thanks for your efforts.

I hope we can both agree that openly vicious racism is extremely hateful and the person who would use racism to hurt other people is probably a person who lacks moral character.


Well, Patrick confirmed you were wrong. Honesty and truthfulness is of the utmost importance, so try better to be honest and civil. I’m moving on from you, Good Luck with your mod job, keep an eye on your buddy Sniper, he’s very dishonest and uncivil, and as you said, is severely lacking in moral character. You’ll have your hands full

@patrick how can i change this post so it can be freed from comment jail?
44 anon_ef72f   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 13, 6:59pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist says
We all want some kind of a balance between uncivil posts and normal posts.


No, you(r ideas) don't. You(r ideas) only want to limit insults to the people you agree with. Stop (your ideas from) being such a lying liar.
45 anon_7c234   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 13, 5:51pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_98513 says

There’s no need to argue with someone who holds idiotic views. It’s obviously a waste of time.

anon_25c83 says
Says the troll.

Ignore really works.

Maybe y'all are here to be uncivil?

I like patnet because points of view and stories that are no where else can be found here.


Except in the toilet where you.....uh, the political ideas of you conservative trolls.....have taken it.
46 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 13, 10:24am   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

justme says
Ah yes, Goran_K gets to be special. He wants to be exempt from being tagged uncivil, by decree, because he is moderator.


PCGyver says
Maybe you shouldn't make uncivil comments if you don't want your posts to be put in comment jail.


The issue is, some little girls here are marking Goran's posts as "uncivil", just to try and get back at him. They're acting like a bunch of little 2nd grade girls. Go look at the Comment Jail and tell us honestly if the last few posts of his in Jail are really uncivil, or just a response by some crybabies.
47 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 13, 10:16am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

I keep seeing team Trumpcuck fanboys suggesting things like price controls and caps on prices. Are you suggesting that the government be tasked with this?
48 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 13, 10:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

I keep seeing team Trumpcuck fanboys suggesting things like price controls and caps on prices. Are you suggesting that the government be tasked with this?
49 anon_25c83   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 13, 9:28am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

Goran_K says
I'm not saying I'm perfect, but I applied the rules last night according to my understanding of the rules.


You're dishonest so you'll apply the rules in some cases and pretend you didn't see the comment in other cases. you never should have been made a moderator.
50 anon_c2110   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 13, 8:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says
Why do you delete your comments?


Why do you store goat cum in your asshole? Does it mellow with age?
51 anon_c2110   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 13, 8:39am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

They call him Dotard the Cunt and laugh at him behind his back. They stroke his ego and make fuck dolls out of his effigy and use it as cum dumpsters. Then he goes back home and cum swaps with Roy Moore.
52 anon_25c83   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 8:18pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Patrick is sacrificing a decade of good will by insisting a lying trolling asshole remain as moderator. I'm speechless.
53 justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 7:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

anon_8f6fa says
I’m curious on what basis your post was marked uncivil, Justme. Beginning to cross over an already blurry line into the realms of personal censorship.


You betcha. One comment was marked uncivil by some unknown person, and the next one was deleted altogether (see above).
Goran_K is a small-minded totalitarian twerp. That's why.
54 justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 7:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

In the other thread I posted the following, and it earned me an outright deletion by Goran_K. Not just an uncivil badge, but an outright deletion, AND a 24hr ban:

>> Goran_K's actions are unbecoming of a moderator. Is it a personal attack to say that?

This tells all you need to know about what kind of moderator Goran_K is. His moderation activities borders on Stalinism. (Would it be a personal attack to say that? Alrighty then!)
55 justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 7:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (5)     quote        

I agree. Goran_K is completely unqualified to be the moderator of anything. I just got banned for 24 hours (by Goran_K) for making that exact preceding statement.

@Patrick, Goran_K does not even grasp what constitutes a personal attack. I'll give an example of a personal attack: It would be to say that Goran_K has the mental capacity of a small child. But I would never say that. Instead I might say that Goran_K does not have the intellect to understand what constitutes a personal attack.
56 justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 4:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

This thread is just one giant trolling attempt. First author Goran_K conflates "leftism" (WTH is leftism?) with "eating without working". Then he invokes Venezuela. Well I guess if your home country is one of the worst examples of exploitative capitalism, I guess there is no choice but invoking a not very successful example of socialism to make yourself look good. Look! There exists a socialist country that has high inflation! Therefore all socialist countries are bad! In fact, any form of socialism is bad!

Seriously, the premise of this thread does not even rise to the level of junior high school debate. And we have heard it all before. There is absolutely nothing new or educational here.

This thread is a perfect illustration why Goran_K should not be #politics moderator, but @iwog very well could be. Is that a personal attack? I guess we shall see how moderator Goran_K handles that.
57 anon_fad35   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 11:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

What do you call a nigger in a tree with a briefcase?

Branch manager.
58 anon_fad35   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 11:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Iwog Dan and errc insult a lot more than CiC. They get their panties in a bunch everytime CIC joins the thread. It has been real entertaining to watch these womens reactions.
59 anon_25c83   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 11:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Onvacation says
You could ignore me or counter my arguments.

But you won't. Why not?


Because your a troll. People answer your questions and you post them again and again anyway. Did you know that an answer of 'I don't know' is perfectly valid and doesn't make your argument true or diminish global warming in any way? Keep asking and keep trolling. You help make this place suck.
60 anon_fad35   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 11:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_04cbc says
BorderPatrol says
why not post in using your handle iwog you coward?


Wow. the dude has been gone for days and you're still pulling on yourself to his memory. He really gets to you, huh? Must have raped you all over the page again and again.


And you must be sucking his cock hard. I know most trump haters are faggot. Is that you? Fucking homo freak.
61 anon_98513   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 9:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_98513 says

Don’t be daft.

Define daft.

As my last post got censored, how about every fucking moronic view you’ve expressed on climate change? I think that would a pretty good definition of daft.
62 anon_98513   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 8:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_98513 says

Don’t be daft.

Define daft.

Pretty much everything you post. Is that uncivil? Do I get a warning? Three strikes and I’m out? Boo-hoo.
63 anon_04cbc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 7:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Nice try, but no. Dan is ... how do I say it .. a bright but self-important dick who thinks he has no biases. You, on the other hand, are just an unintelligent turd who hopes to defend the ultimate turd eater CIC because you're both idiot Republicans in need of a dog to kick. Go forth and shit on things! That should fulfill you and your ilk. SHIT ON IT!! And if that doesn't make you more of a man then do what your God Trump does and blame your shortcomings on those who expose you for the cowards you are. It's what you do, so get back to it.
64 anon_04cbc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 7:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

mell says
1. stay on topic
2. be civil


1. Republicans are retarded.

2. This is PatNet, FUCK YOU!
65 anon_04cbc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 7:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

BorderPatrol says
why not post in using your handle iwog you coward?


Wow. the dude has been gone for days and you're still pulling on yourself to his memory. He really gets to you, huh? Must have raped you all over the page again and again.
66 anon_52d0c   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

I guess Ray Moore, being a typical conservative pedophile buttfucking Republican goathumper will run for President since you cunt licking cock craving authoritarian sucking white trach will unconditionally vote for him. Well ....... won't you? Of course you will! A pedophile suits you better than a Democrat. Sad.
67 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 8:42pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

anon_d2af7 says
It’s ludicrous. People don’t like him. They react. He deletes. They react. He keeps deleting and gets them banned.


So, you think Goran shouldn't have deleted all of errc's (one of iwog's fanboys) temper tantrums of comments this morning? Do you think errc's comments were OK? Or, are you another one of iwog's fanboys too, and are just parroting his comments because Goran isn't a member of your "tribe"?
68 anon_3d4ce   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 5:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_3d4ce says
TwoScoopsMcGee says
Lying Liars who lie dishonestly... ZZZZZZzzzzz.


Honestly ... you had to steal a line from Al Franken? I know you hate non-whites but he's white. I know you hate non-conservatives but c'mon, don't be a douche. DON'T BE A DOUCHE. Oh well, go ahead and be a douche.
69 anon_3d4ce   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 5:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_3d4ce says
Do you masturbate in front of goats?

3d4ce is Dan.


Nice try, but no. Dan is ... how do I say it .. a bright but self-important dick who thinks he has no biases. You, on the other hand, are just an unintelligent turd who hopes to defend the ultimate turd eater CIC because you're both idiot Republicans in need of a dog to kick. Go forth and shit on things! That should fulfill you and your ilk. SHIT ON IT!! And if that doesn't make you more of a man then do what your God Trump does and blame your shortcomings on those who expose you for the cowards you are. It's what you do, so get back to it.
70 anon_3d4ce   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 4:58pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Lying Liars who lie dishonestly... ZZZZZZzzzzz.


Ahhhh......you have a mirror, I see. All you anti-American, authoritarian-loving, democracy-hating, euro-fascist, Putin cum-swapping traitors just want someone to burn it all down. Beyond that you have no plan for your less-than-average dick size man parts to engage in. Carry on.
71 BorderPatrol   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 2:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (4)     quote        

anon_08dee says
Funny, all the intelligent people I know think you have to be insane to have even the slightest respect for the guy anyone with an real sense should know will go down in history as the most incompetent and damaging president on our history.


why not post in using your handle iwog you coward?
72 anon_7c0c9   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 11:26am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
Who determines who is a liar/moron/idiot/etc ?

It’s a slippery slope. If you think you need to express yourself by name calling, just keep it to yourself.


It's not a slippery slope and you lie all the time. If you want people to stop calling you a liar, stop lying.
73 anon_1864e   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 10:22am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says

Iwog was a great member. Sad to see him “leave”


Oh I'm sure it doesn't matter because he's been replaced by a hunk of shit with a keyboard.
74 anon_a1e6e   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 10:05am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Smell that? The dude with a PHD in diarrhea is back. Well, you never leave do you?
75 anon_a1e6e   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 10:04am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says
True, diarrhea all smells the same.


You know this how? Are you intimately connected to that shit? You have special acquaintance with it? OK. I'll take your word for it. GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
76 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 9:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_28090 says
mell says
anon_b52e5 says
*sigh* What you don't understand @Patrick is that CiC WANTS to make you ban him again. Just watch his behavior increase in the same profile as before

Enough with the whining. Trying to get somebody expelled from a forum for excercising their 1st amendment right is pretty much leftoid playbook.


Then why are you whinging about the exercising of it right now? Snowflake much? Sad.


Very sad. Nell is one of those disingenuous people who liked my comments 100’s if times when they were critical of Dems and obama but now when they’re critical of reps and Trump, he’s all butthurt
77 anon_8f4e2   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:54am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Maybe if we work at it we can keep attacking Goron's personality disorder and drive him insane so he goes away.
78 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 9:53am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

But this new Anon policy isn't. It just lets so many more people hide and not have to take responsibility for what they post.

You mean like when Trump was sworn in you posted bye bye nigger boy at Obama, our last president?

Or when you spent literally thousands of hours coming on here with nonstop personal attacks, harassing long term posters until they leave the forum?

Shut the fuck up you dumb, dishonest motherfucker
79 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 9:43am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_b67e3 says
Christ, are you always wrong?

Maybe b67e3 is joejoe/ tatupu?
They all sound the same after a while.


True, diarrhea all smells the same.
80 anon_25c83   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 9:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Another bickering troll thread brought to you by king Goran.
81 anon_25c83   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 9:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Onvacation says
Iwog, is that you?


Isn't it interesting how the losers running the board right now need every anon to be iwog? If they are the last people who actually come here anymore they will still be talking about him.
82 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 8:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says
In the end I’m trying to get the discussions way more civil. The new rules seem to be working. The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.


No you’re not. You’re just trying to squash out any criticism of the Pedo-Christian Right in this country. Do you think these assholes won’t torture and torment your gook kids once they’re done with the rest of us? I root for your comeuppance
83 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 8:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
That may be true but the new PatNet is about debating ideas not individuals. If I’m a liar, attack my point, not me. Then I won’t be forced to delete your stuff and you’ll be less angry overall.

Excessive anger and stress has been linked to increased risk of stroke.


Suck my dick or send your slant eyed cunt wife to do it, pussy
84 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 8:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Ban my account you brain dead pussy. Do you think I give a fuck
85 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 8:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Because you’re a dishonest piece of shit
86 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 8:11am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Fuck you
87 anon_08dee   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 10, 10:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

TPB is funny. He's a guy that apparently lives his life lying to himself and everyone around himself constantly day in and say out. And he wants to call out one of the most honest logical voices on this forum for being "a moron."

TPB is the Patrick.net posterboy for idiocracy.
88 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 10, 7:43pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_a4aad says
How is facebook any worse than News?


I already addressed that:

Sniper says
The difference is, Facebook follows your "interests", then trolls you with articles, advertising and news that fits those interests.


anon_a4aad says
At least Facebook is user generated.


No, Facebook fills your news feed based on what the algos "read" on your page. That doesn't come from users.

anon_7e263 says
While Facebook uses an algorithm- it's not too different than patnetters mind controlling themselves to exclude opinions they don't like.


With Patnet, that's a personal choice, with Facebook, you can't control what shows up. THEY feed you what ever they want.

anon_7e263 says
While 40% of millennials get their news from Facebook a good percentage of patnetters get their news from patnet.


If Patnetters are getting their news here, they have a lot bigger issues than we thought. That would explain the mental illness shown by a few.
89 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 10, 1:16pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says
What we seem to have here is an American president who is looking out for America instead of looking out for massive multi-national corporations.


That's a foreign concept to a certain "tribe".
90 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 2:48pm   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Patrick deserves to have the site he wants. I would never claim to suggest that he needs to follow my suggestions.

That being said, I sadly must join Dan and abandon the website to the trolls. They can have their circle jerk now and Goran deserves the job. He's a lying vile piece of shit and he'll fit right in. The only reason I stuck around was because Patrick emailed me and asked me to moderate, however I'm going to decline that now because having Goran moderate the politics forum is untenable and despite several well-liked people agreeing with me, I guess he's here to stay.

Peace everyone.
91 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 1:11pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

KimJongUn says
in order to control the narrative (not my assesement - his own admission)?

You are lying again with another disingenuous mocking of communication. How insulting. We are not stupid you prick.

Iwog did not say he wants to control the narrative. Trolling is disruption. Iwog wants to control the disruption so that a conversation can exist.
92 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 7:12am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
Sniper says
What NEW laws is your Tribe proposing that would have prevented this guy from buying his guns. This should be a real easy answer for you, if you were really serious, and not just a TROLL.


wtf---there is no law requiring background checks at gun shows. I'm saying let's pass a NEW law requiring them.


Ahhh, so that would have prevent this guy from buying the guns, if they did a background check before he bought them at a local gun show. Good!

Oh wait,

He didn't buy them at a local gun show, he bought them from a national brick and mortar sporting goods store. He had the national FBI 4473 background check done there. Twice.

Crap... what else you got, Joey the Troll??
93 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 6:55am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_2374a says
errc says
@Patrick

So you have the ignore feature and while most are too dumb to use, some of us have figured out that it works. However, some trolls will log out to read your posts, grab text in a quote, and then log back in, paste and respond. This imo should be an automatic ban. I know you’re hoping to change the tone of the site, and allowing what is basically harassment will change it for the worse. Just my .02

He’s obviously not that bothered seeing as he’s let CiC back and he’s exactly as he was before.


Good point. After fully supporting Obama in both elections, Patrick devolving into a Trumpcuck must have prepared him to be in the company of such pieces of shit.

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when one of his kids asks him about all the time he spent on Patnet during their childhood...
94 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 8:32pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says
I heard many people who voted for him say that they’re disgusted and no chance they vote for him again


Is that all your local dealers?
95 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 8:31pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
joshuatrio says
Bad people are going to do bad things no matter what the laws say.


So why have laws against rape or murder then?


There are over 300 federal guns laws on the books now (and that doesn't include additional different state laws), if we only had 301 laws, this shooting would never of happened, right, Joey the TROLL?
96 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 3:30pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
Okay, I thought this was going to be a serious conversation. Sorry my expectations were misaligned.


No, you're just so fucking dishonest that you'll ignore the legitimate answer to your question and run away from it. After all, you didn't really have a point because you never do.




97 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 2:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

YesYNot says
All that said, it will be a big black eye for the Dems if they cannot win VA


That means YOU'RE not trolling hard enough. Put more effort in if you want that paycheck.
98 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 2:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
I'm talking


Yep, you're talking, but the only thing that comes out is TROLLING Bullshit.
99 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 12:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
No--I'm saying actually go to 538 and read some of his articles


OK, even Nate said he fucked up, but YOU still won't admit it:


How I Acted Like A Pundit And Screwed Up On Donald Trump
Trump’s nomination shows the need for a more rigorous approach.

By Nate Silver

Filed under 2016 Election

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/


Hey Joey the TROLL, what else you got???
100 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 8:12am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
I answered your question. Let's close the loopholes. For example, as Bob mentioned on another thread-let's require background checks on private sales/gun shows.


You keep spewing your party line bullshit and you haven't answered shit.

What NEW laws is your Tribe proposing that would have prevented this guy from buying his guns. This should be a real easy answer for you, if you were really serious, and not just a TROLL.

Please apply that to the Las Vegas shooter, Orlando, San Bernadino, etc. Please tell us, and STOP with the bullshit smoke screens.
101 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 7:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
Sniper says

I asked for SPECIFIC laws that would have prevented him from buying, NOT your trolling narrative.

What specific NEW law would have stopped him?


I don't care what you asked for... Everyone else on the thread understands...


Your honor, I rest my case.

There is no intelligent life in the Dem party.

Hey Joey the TROLL, what everyone understands is that you're a MAJOR TROLL who can't answer simple questions, but just keep posting the daily narrative from your troll company.
102 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 6, 6:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says
anon_8f378 says
Sniper says

With what, MORE gun laws?

You do know that criminals don't give a shit about CURRENT laws right? That's why we need MORE laws? Did I get that right?


Ah, the same tired old argument. So, by that logic we should get rid of all laws then, right? Murderers and rapists obviously didn't care about the laws so let's get rid of them.


How about enforcing EXISTING laws? Who controls the background check process?

What NEW law do you propose would have stopped him from buying?


Hey Joey the TROLL, got an answer yet to the questions?
103 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 6, 12:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
It's pretty simple zzyyxx:

Dems want to close the loopholes by which such shooters can very easily obtain guns.


So tell us, Joey the TROLL, where did this guy buy his evil "assault weapon"?
104 Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Jun 21, 2:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

zzyzzx says

You guys are so insensitive. Don't you realize that one of own users became one of these refugee after being banned from PatNet? He saw that sign in Poland and headed straight for the EU.

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