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Paulbots: The inmates are running the asylum

By Nomograph   2012 Jan 22, 7:55am   3,324 views   11 comments   watch (0)   quote      

Out come the conspiracy theories, right on cue:

FuzzyUnicorn says

US Constitution/Bill of Rights supporters:

I have come to realize this blog may exist for the purpose of promoting Communitarianism, which is a 50/50 mix of capitalism and socialism.

Patrick himself has stated his support for socialism in the past. Only recently did he state his support for a Libertarian (Ron Paul) candidate. This could very well be a tactic to draw in pro-Constitution debate, which is then manipulated to create the appearance that the socialists are winning nearly every debate. This creates the illusion of a fair debate, which impacts the views of anyone reading this content -- also known as sophisticated propaganda.

Communitarianism is a relatively new (20 years?) political party, sponsored by the ultra-wealthy central banking-owned financial arms of the United Nations. It uses strategies outlined by Fabian socialist Saul Alinsky, who wrote "Rules for Radicals." Key strategies include: never ever showing one's true intentions, never calling socialism by it's true name, constant ridicule of the opposition, distorting and skewing data, creating the appearance of a shared consensus view, and outright lies.

This constant ridicule includes calling their opposition lunatics, kooks, nutcases, tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy-theorists, and so on. These same tactics were used by the KGB to address domestic opposition to the socialist government of the USSR. Opponents were universally labelled crazy, and eventually thrown in padded cells if the opposition was not already demoralized.

Communitarians seek the loss of individual private property rights, among many other things. Continually bashing home ownership for the middle class is one way of helping achieve this goal, over a long period of time (this tactic is being used on dozens of real estate blogs, worldwide). Notice that renting is now fashionable, and heavily promoted. It just so happens that private property ownership is the backbone of the US Constitution.

This comment will of course be ridiculed to no end. The goal is to defame the poster. Expect this and take this into account when reading the posts that come after it. Compare this to the methods used by ex-KGB Yuri Bezmenov, described in several of his interviews:

Be aware that Constitutional supporters who post here are likely being tracked closely, since this blog is likely sponsored by Communitarian money. Your IP address is collected and may perhaps be used against you at a later date, when the Communitarians take full control. Be careful out there.

Anonymousone says

Once again the establishment is showing it’s cards in an obvious attempt to defraud Ron Paul from the nomination, as Iowa GOP ‘officials’ purposely disrupt and permanently invalidate the 2012 Iowa Caucus.

Paperback Writer says

CNN, CBS, the Washington Post, etc have committed blatant media blackouts of Ron Paul. On top of that they began to demonize him when he started climbing rapidly in the Iowa polls.

Paul has always been shut out of the debates. In one, he was allowed to speak for only 89 seconds. He was in second place in the delegate count coming into SC. The official rules of presidential debates are that the second place candidate stands in the middle and is given equal camera time. CNN broke those rules. In their 2-hr followup discussion, CNN talked at length about the other candidates and did not mention Ron Paul.

Paul's last place finish is a consequence of his marginalization in the press and not the reason for it. The media is trying to black him out and to discredit his supporters in hopes that they can dictate reality and sway people away from him.


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1   toothfairy     2012 Jan 22, 8:07am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

it was inevitable that Ron Paul's non-election would somehow involve a conspiracy.

2   HousingWatcher     2012 Jan 22, 8:19am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate who has not won a single state. So there is nothing wrong with the media giving him less attention. When Ron Paul wins a state, as in he comes in FIRST place, then we can talk about media blackouts...

3   Kevin     2012 Jan 22, 8:59am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Look guys, everyone knows the average american wants to end social security, medicare, public schools, and state-owned highways. They also hate war and think think the military should be small.

4   marcus   666/670 = 99% civil   2012 Jan 22, 9:29am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

FuzzyUnicorn says

The goal is to defame the poster. Expect this and take this into account when reading the posts that come after it.

In other words: "What I am saying is a fact, and anyone who questions or criticizes it is part of a vast conspiracy, because what I say simply IS TRUE."

The idea that mixing socialism and captialism is a conspiracy seems to me strange. We have for a long time had your idea of socialism (that is if by socialism you mean things like):

Kevin says

social security, medicare, public schools, and state-owned highways

Which isn't really what socialism means.

To some of us these seem like very natural developments, that would not have needed a conspiracy to come about in a modern democracy or a republic.

You're probably kidding, but if not, please consider that from my pov, and that of most Americans, an economy that is 100% "free market capitalism," with near zero taxes and a super micro government is not possible in a modern democracy/republic, that is without revolution. Doesn't history and common sense prove this ?

No conspiracy required.

5   Kevin     2012 Jan 22, 9:55am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

marcus says

Which isn't really what socialism means.

What the hell are you talking about?

6   ¥     2012 Jan 22, 10:20am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

^ "socialism" is, correctly speaking, democratic control of capital by labor.

ie. workers councils deliberatively decide who does what job, what to make, and who to trade with.

7   FuzzyUnicorn     2012 Jan 22, 12:01pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

From Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals":

Always remember the first rule of power tactics (pps.127-134):

1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."

2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat.... [and] the collapse of communication.

3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."

7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time...."

8. "Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose."

9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign."

11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside... every positive has its negative."

12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'...

"Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday." --Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky

Obama helped fund 'Alinsky Academy': "The Woods Fund, a nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director from 1999 to December 2002, provided startup funding and later capital to the Midwest Academy.... Obama sat on the Woods Fund board alongside William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization.... 'Midwest describes itself as 'one of the nation's oldest and best-known schools for community organizations, citizen organizations and individuals committed to progressive social change.'... Midwest teaches Alinsky tactics of community organizing."

Hillary, Obama and the Cult of Alinsky: "True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within. Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties.... Many leftists view Hillary as a sell-out because she claims to hold moderate views on some issues. However, Hillary is simply following Alinsky’s counsel to do and say whatever it takes to gain power.

"Obama is also an Alinskyite.... Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project.... Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer." (By Richard Poe, 11-27-07)

More at

8   FuzzyUnicorn     2012 Jan 22, 12:08pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

More Alinsky teachings, as used by the Communitarians who post here regularly...

2. Of Means and Ends [Forget moral or ethical considerations]

"The end is what you want, the means is how you get it. Whenever we think about social change, the question of means and ends arises. The man of action views the issue of means and ends in pragmatic and strategic terms. He has no other problem; he thinks only of his actual resources and the possibilities of various choices of action. He asks of ends only whether they are achievable and worth the cost; of means, only whether they will work. ... The real arena is corrupt and bloody." p.24

"The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…. The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be...." pp.25-26

"The third rule of ethics of means and ends is that in war the end justifies almost any means...." p.29

"The seventh rule... is that generally success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics...." p.34

"The tenth rule... is you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.... It involves sifting the multiple factors which combine in creating the circumstances at any given time... Who, and how many will support the action?... If weapons are needed, then are appropriate d weapons available? Availability of means determines whether you will be underground or above ground; whether you will move quickly or slowly..." p.36

9   FuzzyUnicorn     2012 Jan 22, 12:12pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Alinsky's tactics were based, not on Stalin's revolutionary violence, but on the Neo-Marxist strategies of Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Communist. Relying on gradualism, infiltration and the dialectic process rather than a bloody revolution, Gramsci's transformational Marxism was so subtle that few even noticed the deliberate changes.

Like Alinsky, Mikhail Gorbachev followed Gramsci, not Lenin. In fact, Gramsci aroused Stalin's wrath by suggesting that Lenin's revolutionary plan wouldn't work in the West. Instead the primary assault would be on Biblical absolutes and Christian values, which must be crushed as a social force before the new face of Communism could rise and flourish. Malachi Martin gave us a progress report:

"By 1985, the influence of traditional Christian philosophy in the West was weak and negligible.... Gramsci's master strategy was now feasible. Humanly speaking, it was no longer too tall an order to strip large majorities of men and women in the West of those last vestiges that remained to them of Christianity's transcendent God."

10   FuzzyUnicorn     2012 Jan 22, 12:14pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ladies and gentlemen, I therefore present to you:


11   marcus   666/670 = 99% civil   2012 Jan 22, 5:04pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Kevin says

What the hell are you talking about?

Sorry if my copy and pasting your line made you think I was talking to you.

I understood your post. But was taking a more direct and less facetious (although maybe not so clear) approach. Don't know if my copy and pasting your line, out of laziness, made you think I was referencing your comment or talking to you. You probably only read the part after your quote, in which case I see the confusion.

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