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By elliemae   2012 Feb 16, 11:52pm   ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   2,966 views   14 comments   watch (0)   share   quote  

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53415616-78/care-homeless-patients-koch.html.csp

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1   Dan8267 (56/57 = 98% civil)   2012 Feb 17, 11:25am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

His estimated ER bill: $418,000. And that doesn’t include ambulance rides, X-rays, tests, treatments and several stays in intensive care.

That's like a lifetime of medical care! It's wrong if this prevents other people from getting care like that construction worker in this thread.

2   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   2012 Feb 17, 1:09pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Aren't the police supposed to kick people like this to death and dumpster them on the way to get donuts?

3   Dan8267 (56/57 = 98% civil)   2012 Feb 18, 5:37am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Tony Manero says

Aren't the police supposed to kick people like this to death and dumpster them on the way to get donuts?

No, the people are used to make Krispy Kreme's Soylent Green Donuts.

4   elliemae   2012 Feb 19, 2:00am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Dan8267 says

That's like a lifetime of medical care! It's wrong if this prevents other people from getting care like that construction worker in this thread.

That's exactly the point. Preventive Medicine goes a long way toward cutting down on ER costs. As long as people are forced to use emergency rooms for their primry medical care, costs will be astronomical.

5   Dan8267 (56/57 = 98% civil)   2012 Feb 19, 4:40am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

elliemae says

As long as people are forced to use emergency rooms for their primry medical care, costs will be astronomical.

True. And the hospitals definitely shuttle everyone to the emergency room to maximize costs. They need to be fined or they won't stop that practice.

6   elliemae   2012 Feb 19, 6:11am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Dan8267 says

And the hospitals definitely shuttle everyone to the emergency room to maximize costs.

Not sure what you mean by that. Hospitals themselves are designed to treat acute conditions or those that require inpatient intervention. Emergency rooms are designed to be the intake arena for sudden illnesses, accidents, etc. They're staffed at a higher level, and the overhead is astronomical as opposed to urgent cares or physician offices.

Federal law mandates that patients be seen in the ER, no matter what their healthcare complaint might be. Patients who don't have insurance or aren't able to pay cash at the time of their visit end up going to the ER because they have no other choice. Physicians who aren't willing to take cash patients or to take payments are being sound businessmen (and business women). This is because once they accept the patient, they're responsible for treating the patient regardless of the ultimate cost.

7   Patrick (150/150 = 100% civil)   2012 Feb 20, 11:41am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

At Pioneer Valley Hospital, where one day he showed up six times, Snoddy said, staff called him "Minty Fresh."

I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

8   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   2012 Feb 20, 1:15pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

It gets worse - in Australia, the really hardcore goners drink mentholated spirits. You can smell it 10 yards away.


At Pioneer Valley Hospital, where one day he showed up six times, Snoddy said, staff called him "Minty Fresh."

I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

9   elliemae   2012 Feb 22, 2:11pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  


I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

Anything with alcohol will do - but at least they smell good.

10   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   2012 Feb 26, 3:28am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Mentholated spirits just smells evil, really vile when it's wafting from a body that hasn't seen soap or water in years. You can never forget it.

elliemae says

I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

Anything with alcohol will do - but at least they smell good.

Eschew Obfuscation

11   Patrick (150/150 = 100% civil)   2012 Feb 26, 4:20am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I think non-homelss people smell pretty good when they're drunk. Especially women.

Of course that's normal alcohol.

12   mdovell   2012 Feb 28, 4:39am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  


I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

Which also explains why the non alcoholic ones came out. Or a promotion of Tom's of Maine products that usually don't have any. They did the same argument with sudafedrine being behind the counter.

Then again there's always Henry Earl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Earl
http://www.monkeygumbo.com/wee/news/henryearl/
Arrested over 1,000 times for being drunk in public. He usually isn't violent though.

13   elliemae   2012 Feb 28, 2:43pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  


I think non-homelss people smell pretty good when they're drunk. Especially women. Of course that's normal alcohol.

...and I'm assuming that you're drunk, too?

14   Patrick (150/150 = 100% civil)   2012 Feb 29, 8:28am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Can't tell if anyone else is drunk when I am. Which is about once a month, just right for good mental health.

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