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Dislike function hijacking

By Dan8267 (82/83 = 98% civil)   2012 Mar 9, 6:46am   ↑ like   ↓ dislike   5,906 views   31 comments   watch (0)   share   quote  

The dislike function is definitely not representative of the community opinion. It clearly is being hijacked for political purposes by trolls like Cloud. For example, the following three posts were disliked:

http://patrick.net/?p=1209884#comment-806217
http://patrick.net/?p=1209609#comment-806001
http://patrick.net/?p=1209849#comment-805918

Two of them are just YouTube clips and one is merely stating that Nelson Mandela shouldn't have been put on a terrorist list. What kind of person would dislike those? Clearly, the dislike function is being used primarily for personal and political disputes. Perhaps that is a fundamental flaw with the Dislike function all together.

However, I think we can tweak the Dislike function to make it more honest. If one person, Bob, is disliking everything another person, Joe, says, then clearly Bob dislikes Joe. OK, count that, but count it once not a hundred times.

More specifically, don't report the count of dislikes on a person like below
select count(Disliked.VoterUserId)
from Thread.Disliked
join Thread.Post on Post.Id = Disliked.PostId
where Post.PosterUserId = @PosterUserId;

Instead, count the weighted dislike of that person's postings like so
select log(2, count(Disliked.VoterUserId))
from Thread.Disliked
join Thread.Post on Post.Id = Disliked.PostId
where Post.PosterUserId = @PosterUserId
group by Disliked.VoterUserId;

The idea is that with the second query, you are giving everyone a more equal vote instead of favoring vocal minorities.

1   elliemae   2012 Mar 11, 7:42am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Vicente says

I just disliked you. Am I your first? Be honest.

Yes, you're my first (blush). If you forget about the 489 other people before you...

http://patrick.net/users.php

2   elliemae   2012 Mar 11, 11:25am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I'm the one that "liked" the last post... I love candy, especially from strangers.

3   elliemae   2012 Mar 15, 2:18am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Some people dislike everything I say, I think. I'm crushed.

4   elliemae   2012 Mar 15, 5:56pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Dan8267 says

Both points true, but if a dislike feature could be used without being abused, it might actually be useful.

only if you give a shit about people liking you. Otherwise, it's just noise.

5   Vicente   2012 Mar 18, 2:35pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

You Like me, you really like me!

6   elliemae   2012 Mar 18, 4:13pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Vicente says

You Like me, you really like me!

Yea, right now, I really do.

7   Vicente   2012 Mar 11, 7:33am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

elliemae says

It's ok to hate me, but not my horse. He's kinda awesome.

I just disliked you. Am I your first? Be honest.

8   Vicente   2012 Mar 11, 10:08am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

elliemae says

Yes, you're my first (blush). If you forget about the 489 other people before you...

Baby, you only have to be "LIKE a virgin".....

Now I'm really bummed. My post only generated one dislike, I wanted a gangbang. *sigh*

Now that you remind me of this "user" page I am startled to find I've generated 241 dislikes to 185 likes. Perhaps I can pump up my likes by offering free candy.

Or I could offer promiscous LIKE to anyone who will like me back. Hey there poster, me like you long time....

9   EightBall   2012 Mar 15, 1:16am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Dan8267 says

9 out of the 10 most liked users have more dislikes than likes.

Shocking - perhaps more people dislike what you have to say than you thought? Or does me stating the obvious hurt your self esteem? Go ahead Dan - click the dislike button on me again.

10   uomo_senza_nome   2012 Mar 15, 3:49am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

elliemae says

Some people dislike everything I say, I think. I'm crushed.

Ellie, ignore it-- these dislikes have no meaning anyway if the system is getting abused.

Vicente says

Someone really dislikes you they will start stalking you and hitting dislike on any message with your username even if they don't read or do anything else in that thread.

This is what I suspect is happening.

11   elliemae   2012 Mar 15, 11:52am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

EightBall says

Nuanced insults are still insulting.

yea. this was a pissing match about a non-issue. I really don't care if someone dislikes everything I say, and until this thread I didn't realize someone was keeping score. There are some people that I have on "ignore" for the same reason - I'm not thrilled with everything that they post to the point that I blocked them completely. However childish it might be to "dislike" me, I don't give a rat's ass what they think.

uomo_senza_nome says

Ellie, ignore it-- these dislikes have no meaning anyway if the system is getting abused.

My family, friends & critters love me. US Bank wants me back, even after a bad breakup. DirecTV misses me, and they have an awesome Sports package... I can live with an anonymous troll on the interwebs hitting a "dislike" button.

12   uomo_senza_nome   2012 Mar 16, 4:54am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

elliemae says

only if you give a shit about people liking you. Otherwise, it's just noise.

Right on the money Ellie.

13   elliemae   2012 Mar 11, 3:29am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Vicente says

I HATE YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON TOO!
Please "Dislike" this post.

It's ok to hate me, but not my horse. He's kinda awesome.

14   Dan8267 (82/83 = 98% civil)   2012 Mar 15, 3:27am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

elliemae says

Some people dislike everything I say, I think. I'm crushed.

Eschew Obfuscation

It's not you, it's them. I mean, how could anyone with a sense of humor dislike what APOCALYPSEFUCK says. He's half the reason to visit this site.

15   Vicente   2012 Mar 15, 3:39am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I am reminded of EBay, which decided the negative feedback on certain customers was hurting their bottom line. So they removed it. Even NYTimes comments only has "recommend" button.

Hatred versus love for a bunch of faceless strangers is a difficult thing to grok, but it's plain that the hatred wins out. Someone really dislikes you they will start stalking you and hitting dislike on any message with your username even if they don't read or do anything else in that thread.

16   EightBall   2012 Mar 15, 5:36am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Dan8267 says

I'd explain why this is an interesting subject matter in Information Technology, but I doubt that you would understand it.

Nuanced insults are still insulting.

What Patrick should really fix is being able to like your own comments.

Dan8267 says

So you should be supporting me instead of making a childish personal attack.

I'm just yanking your chain dude. From all appearances (to me at least) you are offended that people would dislike your comments and you have gotten touchy to the point that you started a whole thread about it.

17   Vicente   2012 Mar 21, 2:52am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

So, seems odd to me I can click both Like and Dislike for the same post.

Does it register both votes?

18   elliemae   2012 Mar 21, 11:06am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Vicente says

So, seems odd to me I can click both Like and Dislike for the same post.
Does it register both votes?

Which post was it? try it with this one and then see. Dan8267 says

What, no opinions about the proposed solution?

He lost me at "hello."

19   Vicente   2012 Mar 21, 3:06pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I Like you.
I Dislike you.

Feels like grade school.

20   elliemae   2012 Mar 21, 11:15pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

If that was you, it worked. The sad part is, I thought we had a future for a second there...

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