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I've found my house!

By Bellingham Bill   2012 Aug 12, 6:08am   5,841 views   21 comments   watch (0)   quote      

http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/strippedchassis/trim/?trim=f53

This has an option for CNG flexfuel system! SWEET!

Traditional RVs are built for 60 year old boomer couples with their foo-foo tastes, or millionaires who want to out-dick their competition, but imagine what one could do with a ~$200,000 budget with that as a basis.

An RV is a really crappy inflation hedge, but I think it'd be a gas to go mobile, as the song said.

And if we get Japan-style deflation, who needs inflation hedges, LOL!

I'd love to spend the next 20 years cruising the US and Canada, working from this. Hell, I could even house-swap with people who wanted to borrow it for a month or two, LOL.

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1   New Renter     2012 Aug 12, 7:15am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Can it be designed to do double duty as a houseboat?

2   Bellingham Bill   74/74 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 12, 7:47am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Going with a 190" wheelbase chassis, total bottom plane area would be 20.3 sq meters.

gross vehicle weight of 7000kg requires 7 cubic meters of draft, or 34cm without any sponson/pontoon design.

Battery-power drive train for marine action would be awesome. With PV recharge capability one could cruise to Hawaii, LOL.

Piloting your house from Santa Cruz to the Kahului Costco would be a trip, LOL.

Problem is adding complexity adds maintenance and breakdowns, alas.

3   Dan8267   2640/2673 = 98% civil   2012 Aug 12, 7:49am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Personally, I prefer the Uziel. I've always favored energy weapons and you can put dual phased particle cannons in this puppy. Yet it's still fast and agile.

4   Bellingham Bill   74/74 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 12, 7:58am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

One idea would be to pick up 2 or 3 off-grid properties and "commute" between them. Eg. summer on Lake Whatcom and winter in Santa Cruz.

Why leave the house behind if you can take it with you?

SC to Bellingham is 1000 miles, at 5 mpg that's 200 gallons, CNG is ~$2 now, so that would cost about $500 to relocate, cheaper than flying, LOL.

5   Bellingham Bill   74/74 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 12, 9:25am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Here's what Winnebago did with the 190" wheelbase chassis:

what a pile of crap. Having lived in Japan for 8 years I can only laugh at permanently devoting a third of the internal volume to the mattress space.

Geez, how hard would a murphy bed be, anyway?

I see another mfr has figured this out:

http://www.leisurevans.com/unity/gallery.html

much more my speed, but too small to live in I think -- I need throw space for my JVC projection system, LOL.

6   mell   63/63 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 12, 10:12am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Can these come with a high speed internet solution to seriously work out of this van? I see only satellite dish TV - maybe with a high speed unlimited 4G data plan you can tether from your cell phone, but it's not optimal.

7   Dan8267   2640/2673 = 98% civil   2012 Aug 12, 11:29am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

mell says

Can these come with a high speed internet solution to seriously work out of this van? I see only satellite dish TV - maybe with a high speed unlimited 4G data plan you can tether from your cell phone, but it's not optimal.

How much posting to Patrick.net do you do?

8   mell   63/63 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 12, 1:52pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

mell says

Can these come with a high speed internet solution to seriously work out of this van? I see only satellite dish TV - maybe with a high speed unlimited 4G data plan you can tether from your cell phone, but it's not optimal.

How much posting to Patrick.net do you do?

Too much - I keep coming back because I'm drawn to AF's genius commentary and I started reading Patrick.net from its very beginnings. Weaning off now.

9   Bellingham Bill   74/74 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 12, 1:56pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Call it Crazy says

I didn't realize you had lost it........ did it run away or something??

I've been in the market for a house for 10+ years now, LOL

been renting for more than half my life, : (

Was too young to buy in the 1980s, went to Japan in the 90s, things got crazy in the 00s, was looking 2001-2002 but decided to wait for the crash that finally came, still kinda a bear now even with what I suspect is going to happen this decade (inFLAtion).

But for real inflation to come this decade, three things have to happen:

1) Romney wins
2) Republicans don't walk their talk about austerity and cutting leviathan
3) Mother of all money balls thrown at the masses again

I didn't see the 1990s boom coming before it did, so I don't have any great faith in my ability to see the future from here. There are many possibilities still.

10   Tenpoundbass   994/996 = 99% civil   2012 Aug 13, 12:13am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Bellingham Bill says

But for real inflation to come this decade, three things have to happen:

Yeah I've been paying 200% more for every thing across the board since Obama took office, with funny money. When does that REAL inflation kicks in, will we be playing for realzies with real money?

What planet are you people on?

11   jhall     2012 Aug 13, 3:16am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Seeing that weird looking vehicle made me think of all the people who are going to be pointing and saying, What the hell is that? Which reminded me of the Saturday Night Live bit with Steve Martin and Bill Murray. It's still hilarious.

Here's the link:

12   TwoScoopsMcGee   1275/1275 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 13, 5:16am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Travel with living space? Fully self-contained? Sailboat.

13   New Renter     2012 Aug 13, 8:37am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

CaptainShuddup says

Yeah I've been paying 200% more for every thing across the board since Obama took office, with funny money. When does that REAL inflation kicks in, will we be playing for realzies with real money?

What planet are you people on?

Houses got cheaper

14   JodyChunder     2012 Aug 13, 4:05pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Bellingham Bill says

his has an option for CNG flexfuel system! SWEET!

Traditional RVs are built for 60 year

You joke, Bill...but I covet the nomads life . I prefer Airstreams

15   Bellingham Bill   74/74 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 14, 6:53am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

thunderlips11 says

Travel with living space? Fully self-contained? Sailboat.

yeah I've been adding up the weight of stuff I'd want to cart around with me . . .

11,000 pounds of payload is doable -- it's the weight more than the space that's a limitation -- I lived in a 25m2 apartment for years in Japan and it was great, LOL.

PV and battery packs are much easier to carry in a sailboat.

Problem is outside the Panama Canal and Great Lakes, boats are limited to sea-level, LOL.

If I were to do this probably the best path would be to order a partially fitted-out shell from a major body manufacturer (whatever they do better than I can) and then have the interior systems built out to my sensibilities.

(Or buy a used RV and gut the mother)

Either way would blend in better.

Diesel pushers look to be a better QOL while on the road but CNG power looks simply awesome from the cost, supply, and heating/cooking angle.

Doing this I learned that 1 gallon gas equivalent of NG is half a cubic foot at tank pressure (3600PSI) and weighs 5.66 lbs. Currently costs $2.20/gallon around California. Might want two massive tanks on this - 1 44 gge CNG tank weighs 600 lbs fully loaded.

16   Bellingham Bill   74/74 = 100% civil   2012 Aug 17, 7:34am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

http://www.hackneys.com/mitsu/index-lessons.htm

this guy had my idea and executed it.

the more I think about it I'm going to need an actual property to "home" in for some of the year.

wintering in California campgrounds and summering in WA seems doable . . .

17   JodyChunder     2012 Aug 17, 7:52am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

You're back to thinking inside the box there, Willy.

This is what you need:

http://camillc.com/terrawind.htm

You could cruise over to Japan in this puppy. Take it down south to the Chilean coast. You could even host off-shore gambling parties legally and take a nice 20% cut of the winnings.

RE: WA. They hate Californians. Try Florida. Nice warm beaches.

18   taxee     2012 Nov 13, 1:41am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Lived out of this for twenty years and only paid for showers at the gym.

19   New Renter     2012 Nov 14, 12:21pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

taxee says

Lived out of this for twenty years and only paid for showers at the gym.

THAT is a tiny house!

20   ducsingle5313     2012 Nov 14, 2:40pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Bellingham Bill says

http://www.hackneys.com/mitsu/index-lessons.htm

this guy had my idea and executed it.

I met this guy in a Home Depot parking lot in San Diego County about 7 years ago. I saw his vehicle and was intrigued. It was a nice build. Bigger than what I would choose for an around the world expedition vehicle, but very interesting.

21   lostand confused   225/225 = 100% civil   2012 Nov 14, 9:58pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

I once met a retired New York stock broker on a camping trip. He was pulling a horse trailer behind his RV and took his horse along on his travels. He still traded in stocks via satellite and just went and stayed in campgrounds and places where they allowed horses. Funny fella.

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