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Time to End Gridlock in the Senate

By tovarichpeter   2012 Nov 25, 5:08am   814 views   9 comments   watch (0)   quote      

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/us/politics/new-senates-first-task-will-likely-be-trying-to-fix-itself.html?hp&_r=0&gwh=E48BEF4E3DFF131FB8B6D2FBF20AF7E9

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1   mmmarvel   28/28 = 100% civil   2012 Nov 25, 6:49am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

By the same token, I have no problem with government gridlock. It just means that the government has a harder time messing with my life. Combine that with a really bad president with really bad ideas and I love gridlock.

2   iwog   1448/1449 = 99% civil   2012 Nov 25, 2:02pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

mmmarvel says

By the same token, I have no problem with government gridlock. It just means that the government has a harder time messing with my life. Combine that with a really bad president with really bad ideas and I love gridlock.

Government gridlock is precisely why your taxes are going WAY up on January 1st. It is also why we have a runaway debt and insolvent Medicare and Social Security.

There's nothing good about a dysfunctional government.

3   Kevin     2012 Nov 25, 2:08pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

mmmarvel says

By the same token, I have no problem with government gridlock. It just means that the government has a harder time messing with my life. Combine that with a really bad president with really bad ideas and I love gridlock.

You want a government that is incapable of acting? There are 50 of them in Africa for you to choose from.

4   Dan8267   2460/2492 = 98% civil   2012 Nov 25, 3:57pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

There's nothing good about a dysfunctional government.

There is one thing...

The utter incompetency of our government is the one thing that protects us from the sheer evilness of our government.

5   Dan8267   2460/2492 = 98% civil   2012 Nov 25, 4:00pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

Government gridlock is precisely why your taxes are going WAY up on January 1st.

I actually hope this happens. Paying higher taxes is worth the automatic cuts in the defense industry spending. I don't see politicians ever cutting that wasteful "defense" industry spending except by going off the fiscal cliff.

However, I don't think the Democrats will have the balls to stick to their plans and they'll cave into the bat-shit crazy Republicans. I'd love to be wrong about this, but I doubt I am. The Dems will probably agree to some deal where the Republicans get 100% of what they want.

6   bmwman91     2012 Nov 25, 4:22pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

Government gridlock is precisely why your taxes are going WAY up on January 1st.

Maybe so. Still, has everyone forgotten the definition of "temporary"? The Bush tax cuts were supposed to be a TEMPORARY stimulus. The feds need increased revenue badly, as much as nobody likes that, and the Bush tax cuts didn't do our deficit any favors.

7   iwog   1448/1449 = 99% civil   2012 Nov 25, 4:29pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

bmwman91 says

iwog says

Government gridlock is precisely why your taxes are going WAY up on January 1st.

Maybe so. Still, has everyone forgotten the definition of "temporary"? The Bush tax cuts were supposed to be a TEMPORARY stimulus. The feds need increased revenue badly, as much as nobody likes that, and the Bush tax cuts didn't do our deficit any favors.

I'm okay with the tax cuts expiring on dividends, capital gains, estate taxes, and the top income tax bracket.

I do however want to see the tax cuts on most working Americans made permanent. It's good policy and helps the wealth disparity problem.

8   Bellingham Bill   70/70 = 100% civil   2012 Nov 25, 9:24pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

I do however want to see the tax cuts on most working Americans made permanent. It's good policy and helps the wealth disparity problem.

and your future rent increases, LOL

9   iwog   1448/1449 = 99% civil   2012 Nov 25, 11:28pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Bellingham Bill says

iwog says

I do however want to see the tax cuts on most working Americans made permanent. It's good policy and helps the wealth disparity problem.

and your future rent increases, LOL

Yup that too. Obamacare does raise taxes on rents although not much.

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