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Bill to require gun owners to buy insurance

By tovarichpeter   2013 Feb 6, 10:41am   3,894 views   28 comments   watch (0)   quote      

http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_22532760/california-measure-would-force-gun-owners-buy-insurance

Democratic lawmakers proposed legislation Tuesday that would require California gun owners to buy liability insurance to cover damages or injuries caused by their weapons. Similar bills have been introduced in other states after the Newtown, Conn., school massacre. They include Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and New York. "I was moved, like many others, being the father of two young children, by the Sandy Hook incident and looking for constructive ways to manage gun violence here in California as well as the rest of the country," said Assemblyman Philip Ting of San Francisco, who introduced AB231 along with Assemblyman Jimmy Gomez...

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1   Meccos     2013 Feb 6, 1:33pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

How about these idiots first work on getting people to get auto insurance here in california...

2   lostand confused   229/229 = 100% civil   2013 Feb 6, 1:37pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

What a tool.

3   StillLooking     2013 Feb 6, 2:38pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

Long overdue.

And people should pay massive fines if their gun harms someone.

4   Tenpoundbass   995/997 = 99% civil   2013 Feb 6, 10:03pm  ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Now THAT'S the ONLY smart thing I've heard come out of all of this.
You need to take out insurance to wash your ballsack these days, but the single most deadly object known to man, no insurance is required to own.

5   epitaph   38/38 = 100% civil   2013 Feb 6, 11:09pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Just like the auto insurance measures, good luck trying.

6   StillLooking     2013 Feb 6, 11:23pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

IDDQD says

StillLooking says

And people should pay massive fines if their gun harms someone.

People should and do pay massive fines when people harm someone. This is already covered by existing laws, btw. Are you suggesting that owner of a gun, car or kitchen knife should be responsible by the harm done with said gun/car/knife no matter who used said object for malicious purposes?

Gun owners have obviously proven themselves to be especially careless.

7   Quigley   515/520 = 99% civil   2013 Feb 6, 11:27pm  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

This is just a blatant attempt to remove responsible gun owners from the state. Irresponsible owners, gang members, and criminals will not pay the slightest heed to such a law mandate. Only the law abiding citizens will be forced to either pay some unset, unknowable premium or get rid of their guns. I won't pay as a matter of principle. I will deregister my guns and pay no attention to any gun laws in California if this measure passes. F--- this commie state and its pansy commie overlords. Come and get my guns f---ers!

8   CrazyMan     2013 Feb 6, 11:41pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Next up, mandatory insurance just in case you say something offensive!

This will never pass, it's blatantly unconstitutional.

9   epitaph   38/38 = 100% civil   2013 Feb 6, 11:43pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

CrazyMan says

Next up, mandatory insurance just in case you say something offensive!

This will never pass, it's blatantly unconstitutional.

I'm covered for up to 10,000 feelings hurt.

10   Tenpoundbass   995/997 = 99% civil   2013 Feb 6, 11:54pm  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

CrazyMan says

Next up, mandatory insurance just in case you say something offensive!

Yeah but read the fine print, it wont cover jihad as a result of illustrating Mohamed.

11   Quigley   515/520 = 99% civil   2013 Feb 7, 12:00am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Also there is no legal precedent that I am aware of for someone to be liable for their gun being misused by another person who is not a family member. If someone burglarizes my house, takes a gun, and kills someone with it, how is that my f---Ing fault?
Pointy headed pencil pushers. May they all get lead poisoning.

12   StillLooking     2013 Feb 7, 12:15am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (4)   quote    

Quigley says

Also there is no legal precedent that I am aware of for someone to be liable for their gun being misused by another person who is not a family member. If someone burglarizes my house, takes a gun, and kills someone with it, how is that my f---Ing fault?

Pointy headed pencil pushers. May they all get lead poisoning.

To hell with your stinking guns. Why should I have to worry about being shot because you have some silly gun fetish?

13   StillLooking     2013 Feb 7, 3:04am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Call it Crazy says

StillLooking says

To hell with your stinking guns. Why should I have to worry about being shot because you have some silly gun fetish?

Well, just continue to stay in your mom's basement and you should be fine!

I have to stay in the basement because you need a gun?

What kind of crap is that?

14   StillLooking     2013 Feb 7, 8:28am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Call it Crazy says

StillLooking says

Call it Crazy says

StillLooking says

To hell with your stinking guns. Why should I have to worry about being shot because you have some silly gun fetish?

Well, just continue to stay in your mom's basement and you should be fine!

I have to stay in the basement because you need a gun?

What kind of crap is that?

Just trying to alleviate your fears and keep you safe. We wouldn't want to to scared of all the nutty gun owners....

You should also consider putting lead plates over the basement windows in case a stray bullet might come through and harm you. After all, you're not that far from all the gang/drug killings in Chicago...

If you are not scared of guns, you must be a stinking idiot.

15   jvolstad   146/146 = 100% civil   2013 Feb 7, 10:34am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

I have a million dollar umbrella policy, in addition to my renters insurance and auto policy.

And yes, I own a gun.

16   StillLooking     2013 Feb 7, 1:52pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

I dont want other people to own guns because over one hundred thousand people get shot each year and I don't want to be one of them.

And I repeat one is stupid and ignorant if they have no fear of guns.

And people are really stupid to add this added risk to their lives for no good purpose.

17   Quigley   515/520 = 99% civil   2013 Feb 7, 9:39pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Yesterday the cops in Torrance shot two women and the truck they were driving while DELIVERING PAPERS! I saw the pic, the truck looks like Swiss cheese. I guess it looked like the one that ex cop madman is driving. So in a shoot-first-ask-questions-later MO, they opened fire.
And another man was shot earlier in the day by jumpy cops under similar circumstances.
Maybe it's the police who shouldn't have guns, if this is all the gun safety and restraint they possess.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

18   leo707     2013 Feb 8, 3:24am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Call it Crazy says

But the only weapon he's ranting on banning is the AR-15.... strange...... looks like another one with mental illness going rogue...

He also rants about high capacity magazines, and the ease he had in purchasing silencers legally.

19   leo707     2013 Feb 8, 3:26am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Quigley says

Yesterday the cops in Torrance shot two women and the truck they were driving while DELIVERING PAPERS! I saw the pic, the truck looks like Swiss cheese. I guess it looked like the one that ex cop madman is driving. So in a shoot-first-ask-questions-later MO, they opened fire.

And another man was shot earlier in the day by jumpy cops under similar circumstances.

Maybe it's the police who shouldn't have guns, if this is all the gun safety and restraint they possess.

Something tells me they are not planning on bringing him in alive.

20   leo707     2013 Feb 8, 3:37am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

IDDQD says

leo707 says

He also rants about high capacity magazines, and the ease he had in purchasing silencers legally.

Legally? Possession of silencers is prohibited in CA, so no, he didn't purchase them legally.

He purchased them out of state.

He may not legally posses them in CA, but all his weapons purchases were through legal dealers. No black market.

Or so his manifesto claims.

21   leo707     2013 Feb 8, 4:02am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

IDDQD says

He broke the law by importing and possessing it in-state. This makes the word "legal" inapplicable right there.

Sure, but the point is that there was no black market required for him to get them. He may have illegally imported them to CA, but he legaly acquired them.

It is also illegal for him to use his guns to ambush and murder other people.

22   Dan8267   2664/2697 = 98% civil   2013 Feb 8, 5:05am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I'm waiting for the Democrats to introduce a bill that requires gun buyers to get a trans-vaginal ultrasound and talk to their doctors face-to-face about gun violence and injuries.

A person getting a first trimester abortion has a greater reasonable expectation of privacy than a person buying a gun.

23   zzyzzx   571/571 = 100% civil   2013 Feb 11, 10:01pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

24   mikem     2013 Feb 11, 10:40pm  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

I have said it once and I will say it again. it is an obligation as an american to keep firearms. there will always be those who wring their hands over it. fortunately, we have the constitution to protect us from that sort.

he Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms." -Samuel Adams, debates & Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87.

"They that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania..

25   BlueSardine   537/544 = 98% civil   2013 Feb 11, 11:32pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Have you ever considered that the bullet may have the 'right of way'??

StillLooking says

I dont want other people to own guns because over one hundred thousand people get shot each year and I don't want to be one of them.

And I repeat one is stupid and ignorant if they have no fear of guns.

And people are really stupid to add this added risk to their lives for no good purpose.

26   drblincoe     2013 Feb 20, 12:19pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Maybe it would be better if we made people who want to run for political office to be required to have insurance. That way when they don't fulfill their promises like balancing budgets, reforming health care, immigration reform, correcting wasteful spending, I could go on and on but you get the point. Their insurance could pick up the cost and we don't have to. Over 67 million lawful gun owners harmed no one today. Why penalize the majority for the actions of a few. Lets start enforcing the laws that are on the books already before we start making more.

27   New Renter     2013 Feb 20, 1:09pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Call it Crazy says

No, I'm not scared of guns. They are just another tool in the tool box. Nothing to be afraid about..

Yep! An AR-15 is no different than a nailgun. Or a screwdriver.

28   leo707     2013 Feb 20, 1:24pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

New Renter says

Call it Crazy says

No, I'm not scared of guns. They are just another tool in the tool box. Nothing to be afraid about..

Yep! An AR-15 is no different than a nailgun. Or a screwdriver.

Well...you might need some slight modifications.

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