patrick.net

  new post
register or log in

#investing   #housing   #politics   #humor  
10,754 registered users, 1 online now: iwog

Karl Rove is Scum

By Quigley (45/46 = 97% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 1:11am   ↑ like (8)   ↓ dislike (3)   6,232 views   46 comments   watch (1)   share   quote  

Am I the only one who grows tired of this guy and his raging misinformed, yet egocentric and disingenuous posts? I'm no longer going to reply or even look at his threads. I posted a response to his post today and got this email message. Apparently he deletes posts that prove him wrong. Maybe it's time to step up to premium membership and support our buddy Patrick.

KarlRoveIsScum deleted this comment of yours:
I'm hardly surprised that 1.2 million sheeple signed this. People like that are quick to give up rights for imagined safety.
Ben Franklin has a pretty famous quote about this: "Any people who are willing to trade a little freedom for a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

Are you saying these 1.2 million media slaves are smarter than Ben Franklin?
This is the trouble with kids today: all action and no wisdom.

Premium users are protected from comment deletions by non-premium users like KarlRoveIsScum

« First     « Previous     Comments 7-46 of 46     Last »

7   leo707   2013 Feb 8, 4:00am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

The Professor says

Were all 12 from Karl??

Yes.

8   Homeboy   2013 Feb 8, 4:08am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (5)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Quigley - let he who is without sin cast the first stone. You posted this twice, in 2 different threads:

I posted this in the wrong thread.
Ok for an average hard working American family living on reduced wages, or more likely, reduced business profits, thanks to a protracted depression, how will be required to buy medical insurance for all five family members. If their income is $50k, that $20k is not going to leave much to live on, after taxes take their inevitable bite.
So what you'll have is a family of five with crappy cheap healthcare trying to survive on Top Ramen and the cheapest crappiest food out there. That will make their health worse, so they'll be in the clinic constantly, with all the other families in their situation.
Before, they wouldn't buy insurance, take their chances, roll the dice, and live normal lives as long as they stayed relatively healthy. Now they have to scrape by.

I pointed out that it's false because a family making $50K would be heavily subsidized under Obamacare. You did not retract anything you wrote, and what's more, went ahead and posted it in another thread, verbatim, still ignoring the fact that your hypothetical family would only have to pay a small fraction of that cost.

So should you really be calling OTHER people "disingenuous"?

9   Ironman (167/179 = 93% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 5:53am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

The Professor says

I only see 5 posts on this thread.

Did I miss anything from people I ignore on the other 12 posts?

Were all 12 from Karl??

KarlScum has some VERY serious issues.... Either he drinks heavily or has to get his posts in quickly before he is kicked off of the computer at the library...

10   turtledove   2013 Feb 8, 6:43am  ↑ like (11)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

First and foremost, I find it strange that anyone would feel the need to operate under so many different names. Is this simply his way around the "ignore" feature? Perhaps there is some pathology here... Poster's Schizophrenia, maybe? Although, with each alias, the same personality comes through... So, I'm putting my money on the first option, avoiding the "ignore" feature.

Another thing I find particularly annoying regarding Karl and his aliases is how he posts several short answers, one after the other. It's like he's trying to keep the post at the top of the topics list. By turning one reply into 10, he ensures that the topic stays "hot."

His abusive responses are nothing short of bullying. Even if he has a valid argument... that argument is often lost amidst personal attacks and foul language. I find him tedious, which is too bad, because I don't always disagree with the core of his arguments. However, his bullying tactics are in stark contrast to many of the positions he holds, making it difficult to take the argument seriously.

11   Ironman (167/179 = 93% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 7:23am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

turtledove says

Perhaps there is some pathology here... Poster's Schizophrenia, maybe?

Exactly!!

turtledove says

Another thing I find particularly annoying regarding Karl and his aliases is how he posts several short answers, one after the other.

That's because all those "voices" in his head keep talking to him, so he posts responses to them...

12   Quigley (45/46 = 97% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 8:04am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Yes, you champion the left side of the argument, and honestly that is fine with me. We need a balance of opinions and perspectives to maintain open discourse. What I and the others on this site object to are your attempts to silence any opposing viewpoints on whatever subject you're currently the self appointed champion. When you do this, you're saying that yours is the only opinion that matters and if you have the power you would be as bad as old Uncle Josef in silencing all dissent. So we don't like you. You're one of those "ends justify the means" political animals who value ideas more than people. At the core, I believe this stems from selfishness: the root of all evil.

Turtledove posted that she may agree with your stance on an issue, but since your tactics make you a bully, she can't support you or what you're trying to do. Why don't you read up on some history, say all about the tactics of the Soviet NKVD. Then again, you'd probably dig their methods and take them for your own on your holy crusade for all things the left media had told you are good and proper.
The right-wing media is just as bad. This is why I said that you are a media slave. You slavishly believe whatever your masters blast out of the idiot box. It's mostly lies and propaganda these days, and it's funny when the media tips its hand like with that doctored video of "NRA activists shout down a grieving father." It's just lies and selectively edited truth. If you believe it all, you're just another fish on their hook.

13   leo707   2013 Feb 8, 8:11am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

KarlRoveIsScum says

Unfortunately you don't like my tactics, I have no choice!

Of course you do.

KarlRoveIsScum says

Why should we tolerate bigotry and racism from the right with no recourse all directed at the electorate and the President.

We should not.

KarlRoveIsScum says

I will not sit idly by while these idiots pollute political discourse amongst conscientious individuals who care.

No one is asking you to sit idly by. There are many others who challenge, but they do so without immediately devolving to boorish rants almost entirely filled with insults.

Continuous insults and bullying does not convince anyone that you are correct. It just makes you seem irrational and unreasonable.

KarlRoveIsScum says

I give as good as I get.

Sure you get plenty of insults hurled your way, but I think that you may be a net exporter of insults.

14   turtledove   2013 Feb 8, 8:42am  ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

KarlRoveIsScum says

turtledove says

First and foremost, I find it strange that anyone would feel the need to operate under so many different names.

It's not strange, ask Patrick.

I don't understand. What does Patrick have to do with your use of aliases? How is Patrick more qualified than you to answer why you operate under multiple screen names?

Are you Patrick? (Eerie music playing in background).

15   dublin hillz   2013 Feb 8, 8:55am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

turtledove says

KarlRoveIsScum says



turtledove says



First and foremost, I find it strange that anyone would feel the need to operate under so many different names.


It's not strange, ask Patrick.


I don't understand. What does Patrick have to do with your use of aliases? How is Patrick more qualified than you to answer why you operate under multiple screen names?


Are you Patrick? (Eerie music playing in background).

That would be quite a plot twist!

16   mell (31/31 = 100% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 9:03am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

KarlRoveIsScum says

leo707 says

KarlRoveIsScum says

Why should we tolerate bigotry and racism from the right with no recourse all directed at the electorate and the President.

We should not.

and yet it goes unpunished day in day out

hence my attitude towards said racists , bigots, white supremacists and 1%ers.

I disagree, I'd rather have the people that you label racists, bigots and others respecting the constitution and the rule of law amongst myself than people who are not classified as such but think they can trample all over the constitution and define what speech or point of views is tolerated and what is not and think the way people feel or think about something should be enforced by the mob and unconstitutional laws. You have the freedom of association who you surround yourself with, no need to terrorize people you don't like.

17   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks (38/38 = 100% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 9:51am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (5)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

The Professor says

I put KarlScum on ignore this morning before I saw this discussion. I could not take his drivel any more.

Ignore really works.

Imagine the perception the new finder of patnet gets when they see underwaterdude and Roberto in their silly feud and KarlScum with his manic ranting.

HAHAHA i thought you said "what would be the fun in that?"

btw, CarlRoveIsCcum has no other aliases at this site, according to patrick's super complex algorithm. what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

18   Moderate Infidel   2013 Feb 8, 9:58am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

let me get this straight, all you people ignoring KarlRoveIsScum are talking about him/her? Someone's got a crush!

19   Ironman (167/179 = 93% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 10:59am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Mark D says

btw, CarlRoveIsCcum has no other aliases at this site, according to patrick's super complex algorithm. what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Unfortunately, he has admitted to being 121212, Thedaytoday and PoliticoFact. I don't know why Patrick's super algorithm isn't picking up his IP like the other screen names...

20   zzyzzx (99/99 = 100% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 11:54am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Mark D says

CarlRoveIsCcum has no other aliases at this site, according to patrick's super complex algorithm.

It's pretty obvious that it's all the same person. He just knows how to use https://www.anonymizer.com/ and other similiar type of things.

21   Macropodia (49/51 = 96% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 12:47pm  ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Style of writing tells all.
It's relative easy to defeat the IP Address checker installed here which detects aliases..

Mark D says

The Professor says

I put KarlScum on ignore this morning before I saw this discussion. I could not take his drivel any more.

Ignore really works.

Imagine the perception the new finder of patnet gets when they see underwaterdude and Roberto in their silly feud and KarlScum with his manic ranting.

HAHAHA i thought you said "what would be the fun in that?"

btw, CarlRoveIsCcum has no other aliases at this site, according to patrick's super complex algorithm. what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

22   Macropodia (49/51 = 96% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 12:51pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Although I would actually defend Politicofact's right to use multiple aliases. As long as he does not camouflage his IP address so all can be recognized as coming from one person on this site.

Depending on the subject matter, and mood of the poster, multiple aliases can be a plus!

23   Macropodia (49/51 = 96% civil)   2013 Feb 8, 12:52pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

in fact, I'm musing over re-inventing a "King Crab" version of myself....

24   Tenpoundbass (151/151 = 100% civil)   2013 Feb 10, 1:34am  ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

One of his multiple personalities, claimed he was a Lawyer.
I'd hate to have him defending me in a court of law.
He's snap and go off on the prosecution and have me thrown under the hoscow.

25   elliemae   2013 Feb 10, 1:54am  ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I'm ignoring the scumster. I deal with mental illness during the day so it would be like going to work if I were to play with him.

I do suspect that he is the poster who "dislikes" my every post, which is extremely childish. But if his comments are reflective of his level of emotional maturity, his propensity to hit "dislike" is his method of striking out when he has nothing to contribute.

Each time he reinvents himself (which seems to happen as often as he changes his underwear - monthly), I have to re-ignore him. Sometimes I play - and I know that I shouldn't, but it's like a train wreck where you cannot look away - but "ignore" is a lot easier.

But I'd rather sit at the grown-up table, where the discussions are reciprocal and people know how to spell.

26   turtledove   2013 Feb 10, 2:24am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I know many of you have Karl on "ignore," but if you were able to see his responses to these criticisms, I think you would find that he's handled them with surprising grace.

Karl.... Stay away from the dark side!

27   Tenpoundbass (151/151 = 100% civil)   2013 Feb 10, 3:02am  ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Dude you make ME look a senior editor at Random House.

28   Macropodia (49/51 = 96% civil)   2013 Feb 10, 3:34am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Implement the use of the 'comma', and you got the job!

CaptainShuddup says

Dude you make ME look a senior editor at Random House.

29   Mick Russom   2013 Feb 10, 6:10am  ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I get surprised by the amount of deletions that go on here. Its scary to think people want to streamline edit reality so what they say and what they present seems completely free from censure.

30   New Renter   2013 Apr 8, 1:08am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Has Karl been nuked?

31   New Renter   2013 Apr 8, 1:41am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

donjumpsuit says

I blocked him this weekend. Couldn't do it anymore.

Can't say I'll miss his hysterics. Still now he'll have more time to take his meds.

32   New Renter   2013 Apr 8, 1:44am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

turtledove says

I know many of you have Karl on "ignore," but if you were able to see his responses to these criticisms, I think you would find that he's handled them with surprising grace.

Karl.... Stay away from the dark side!

You must have missed his responses to me. Not gracious at all, in fact I'd characterize them as childish tantrums.

He REALLY didn't care to be presented with facts, especially when they were so easy to find and directly undermined his hysterical rants.

33   dublin hillz   2013 Apr 8, 2:06am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Scum has deleted several posts of mine for no other reason than he didn't agree with the point of view expressed in them. In general I think he has delusions of grandeur mixed with limited communication skills.

34   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   2013 Apr 8, 2:09am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

There are moments when this guy covers the index page. How's an artist like moi to cope?

35   errc (30/30 = 100% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 2:40am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

There are moments when this guy covers the index page. How's an artist like moi to cope?

Some say, if you can't beat um, join um!

But I wouldn't parse my lips in his direction to acknowledge him if I was bit and turned from the bite of a crazed neo-nazi, and his was the last scrap of edible subhuman flesh on this planet to feed my ravenous hunger.

36   Tenpoundbass (151/151 = 100% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 3:17am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

The same day Margret Thatcher dies, KarlRoveIsScum gets nuked.
Coincidence? I think not!

37   New Renter   2013 Apr 8, 3:18am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

dublin hillz says

Scum has deleted several posts of mine for no other reason than he didn't agree with the point of view expressed in them. In general I think he has delusions of grandeur mixed with limited communication skills.

More like delusions of adequacy.

donjumpsuit says

Personally, I came to this site for Patrick and folks opinions about the Real Estate Market.

Sans RobetoAribas (also ignored) who seems to feel like Phoenix is the center of the universe, I feel the discourse about Real Estate is fun, informative, and interesting.

I don't mind a opinionated views on GMO's and opening the occasional discussion about the specifics, but I work in that field as a Scientist. (like elliemae works in the crazy people field)

I don't really need to open this site on a Sunday Morning and find 4 (FOUR) replicate threads on the deadly dangers of GMO's and how they are ruining the world. The same threads that pop up every day for the past 3 weeks.

I also came to PatNet to hear opinions on the RE market. I am also a scientist and enjoy a spirited but informed debate. Its a great learning opportunity. I cannot however abide hysterical silliness when it comes to such an important topic as the safety of our food supply. Scaring people without just cause is dangerous. For a person who was so vocally opposed to Karl Rove and his modus operandi KRIS certainly emulated his master.

38   New Renter   2013 Apr 8, 3:32am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

There are moments when this guy covers the index page. How's an artist like moi to cope?

Oh you do just fine on your own.

39   Dan8267 (333/336 = 99% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 3:56am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Quigley says

Am I the only one who grows tired of this guy and his raging misinformed, yet egocentric and disingenuous posts?

The fact that you have 6 likes on this thread already shows the answer is a resounding no.

40   Dan8267 (333/336 = 99% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 4:12am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

leo707 says

The thing that bothers me about KarlRoveIsScum is his/her strong reaction to anyone who disagrees, and an immediate reliance on insults. I believe this behavior to be almost entirely unproductive.

Perfectly summed up.

41   Dan8267 (333/336 = 99% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 4:13am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Call it Crazy says

It's been going on a while with this guy. He starts to rack up "ignores" then goes and creates another screen name. This is his fourth one in 5 months.

Why Patrick hasn't blocked his I.P. yet or allowed him to re-register with another screen name makes me wonder...

Which usernames?

I recently looked at the aliases for the KarlRoveIsScum account and found none. Now the account has been deleted.

42   Dan8267 (333/336 = 99% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 4:17am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

CaptainShuddup says

One of his multiple personalities, claimed he was a Lawyer.

I'd hate to have him defending me in a court of law.

He's snap and go off on the prosecution and have me thrown under the hoscow.

On the other hand, the conviction could be overturned due to his incompetence.

43   Dan8267 (333/336 = 99% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 4:17am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

zzyzzx says

Mark D says

CarlRoveIsCcum has no other aliases at this site, according to patrick's super complex algorithm.

It's pretty obvious that it's all the same person. He just knows how to use https://www.anonymizer.com/ and other similiar type of things.

Yep, that would do it.

44   Dan8267 (333/336 = 99% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 4:19am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

CaptainShuddup says

The same day Margret Thatcher dies, KarlRoveIsScum gets nuked.

Coincidence? I think not!

Are you saying that Karl was Thatcher? The cross-dressing wouldn't surprise me, but Thatcher was articulated no matter what you think of her politics.

45   The Professor   2013 Apr 8, 4:22am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

donjumpsuit says

Sans RobetoAribas (also ignored) who seems to feel like Phoenix is the center of the universe, I feel the discourse about Real Estate is fun, informative, and interesting.

I will never ignore Roberto!

AF, Iwog, and Roberto are among the smartest people posting on this site. They are very entertaining. When focused, their intellect is faster than a hot knife through butter.

Roberto is prone to temper tantrums and he seems to think he is smarter than EVERYONE but I think he is just insecure.

Try not to argue with or contradict him when he wont listen anyway, skim through the reiterations of his financial conquests in phoenix, and you will find kernels of wisdom.

AF, on the other hand, spouts wisdom almost everytime he writes.

46   Ceffer (77/77 = 100% civil)   2013 Apr 8, 5:19am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I put him on ignore a while ago, or wouldn't be able to tolerate PATNET. Reminded me of the crazy, shouting lunatics on Berkeley street corners that would never shut up. When the loudest screamer wins, everybody loses.

« First     « Previous     Comments 7-46 of 46     Last »

Watch comments by email

home   top   users   about   contact  
10 reasons it's a terrible time to buy   8 groups who lie about the housing market   37 bogus arguments about housing  
patrick's 40 proposals   thunderdome   sexy pix   site suggestions  
best comments   ad hominem comment jail   patrick.net on twitter   random post  
please recommend patrick.net to your boss