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Patrick.net Suggestions

By Patrick follow Patrick   2012 Apr 2, 7:09am 95,558 views   243 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


This is the place to make suggestions for how Patrick.net can be most helpful to you and to discuss them.

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204   Hircus   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 10, 10:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

@patrick is patnet source code still hosted publicly?
205   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 10, 10:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

@Hircus No, I removed my github account when they imposed a politically motivated terms of use.

But if you want the source code, send me an email at p@patrick.net
206   HunterTits   ignore (6)   2022 Apr 12, 1:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

DoDipShit had a cow when he found how setting me on ignore doesn't block me from seeing/interacting with his posts.

Oh, and NM about why he knew despite setting me on ignore. That is a whole story in and of itself.

But anyway, I am with him. Let's revisit the whole blocking thing!
207   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 12, 2:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Well, anyone can always just log out and see all the comments, so there's no way to completely block a particular user from seeing your comments.

I know some people used to keep a separate porn window open to view the site anonymously just so they could see comments which were blocked by mutual ignore when they were logged in. So in the end it seemed silly to try to prevent people from seeing whatever comments they want to.

I suppose I could require login to see the site at all, and then block, but:

1. people will get throwaway accounts, again to see the blocked comments
2. I want the general public to be able to read all your comments without logging in
208   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Apr 12, 2:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
I suppose I could require login to see the site at all, and then block


I think you are being fooled into accommodating the minority.

This is a public forum, it should be accepted that what is posted here is public. If people want private communication and don't want to share their thoughts outside of a group, there's mailing lists.
209   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   ignore (4)   2022 Apr 12, 7:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
Patrick says
I suppose I could require login to see the site at all, and then block


I think you are being fooled into accommodating the minority.

This is a public forum, it should be accepted that what is posted here is public. If people want private communication and don't want to share their thoughts outside of a group, there's mailing lists.


yes please don't change that, it's nice to read it if i can't login on the device. i have multiple devices, i don't have login on all of them.
210   HunterTits   ignore (6)   2022 Apr 12, 7:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
This is a public forum, it should be accepted that what is posted here is public. If people want private communication and don't want to share their thoughts outside of a group, there's mailing lists.


Every other 'public forum' lets users block others. Standard practice.
211   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Apr 12, 7:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

HunterTits says
richwicks says
This is a public forum, it should be accepted that what is posted here is public. If people want private communication and don't want to share their thoughts outside of a group, there's mailing lists.


Every other 'public forum' lets users block others. Standard practice.


Every other public forum allows you to not see what somebody posts, not to prevent them from seeing what you post.

To do that, users would have to be uniquely identified through a phone number or something similarly fascist and invasive, to prevent people from signing up with multiple accounts, and even then, they can view it when they aren't logged in at all.

Does anybody want to recreate Twitter here?

What you say here, is public. You are free to use a pseudonym, you can use tor to connect, or a VPN. What you say here is public, although its trivial to make yourself anonymous. Brave has Tor, VPNs are priced around $1.00 a month - why would anybody want to prevent people from reading what you post? They can bitch and moan about it, but can they demonstrate you're incorrect?
212   HunterTits   ignore (6)   2022 Apr 12, 8:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

How come I can't downvote posts by people who set me on ignore? I can comment on them.
213   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Apr 12, 8:12pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

HunterTits says
How come I can't downvote posts by people who set me on ignore? I can comment on them.

@Patrick - I think that IS a bug.

I once suggested you shouldn't be able to downvote a person without making a reply. Just telling a person they are wrong, doesn't allow them to evaluate how they may be wrong. I hate getting downvotes without somebody explaining how they think I'm full of shit.

You disagree with me? Fine, but explain why. Maybe I'm full of shit. I can't change my mind without somebody explaining how I'm wrong.
214   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 12, 8:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

I'll look into it.
216   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Apr 23, 1:03pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

I have a suggestion, I never see the "unread" part of a new post, because it's not noticeable. I want to suggest replacing:



with the following image to replace it:



That's the same image, cleaned up, in red although I got a little fancy with the "a" - I added a tail.
217   FarmersWon   ignore (17)   2022 Apr 23, 2:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
@SunnyvaleCA

The only way is to use the "forgot password" link. That will issue you a new random password.

I know people want to choose their passwords themselves, but from years in tech, I have learned that a fair number of people will use, say, their banking password. So then if patrick.net got hacked, it's possible that the hacker would get your banking password and your email address. Not good.

So not allowing password choice is a defense mechanism against that. I know it's not great, but I can't think of a better solution.


I used this mechanic of temp password in past, But Now I can set password.
Go to your profile and "type password" and it takes that password.
218   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 25, 2:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
I have a suggestion, I never see the "unread" part of a new post, because it's not noticeable. I want to suggest replacing:



with the following image to replace it:



That's the same image, cleaned up, in red although I got a little fancy with the "a" - I added a tail.


Thanks for the volunteer work @richwicks !

I uploaded it and am trying it out.
219   DooDahMan   ignore (5)   2022 Apr 25, 2:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick - is there something amiss with the bold and italic functions ? Not able to get them to work.
220   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 25, 2:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

this is bold and this is italic
221   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2022 Apr 25, 2:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

personal
222   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 25, 2:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

I think they work, except perhaps at the beginning of a line:

*bold*
_italic_

Made note to fix that.
223   DooDahMan   ignore (5)   2022 Apr 25, 2:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Thanks
224   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 27, 2:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
I think they work, except perhaps at the beginning of a line:

bold
italic

Made note to fix that.


OK, fixed.
225   AmericanKulak   ignore (1)   2022 Apr 27, 3:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Hi Pat, looks like uploading pics is busted for me.

Might have something to do with the underscores?

226   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 27, 3:15pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

AmericanKulak says
Hi Pat, looks like uploading pics is busted for me.

Might have something to do with the underscores?


@AmericanKulak Yes, it was an underscore problem. Thanks for telling me.

Please try again, should work now.
227   AmericanKulak   ignore (1)   2022 Apr 27, 3:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick for Twitter CEO/CIO
228   Hircus   ignore (0)   2022 May 10, 9:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

I noticed some changes today.

1) When I click on my profile and then view my comments (https://patrick.net/comments?a=Hircus), they now start at my oldest comment, when it used to be my newest comment. I prefer the old behavior if this wasn't an intentional change.

2) When viewing my comment list, if I click the date/permalink link of a comment, in the past it would take me right to my comment, but not anymore. Some links give me an "invalid start number" error, like this one
https://patrick.net/post/1345054?start=2118#comment-1840720

Some other links worked and went to the right thread, but I ended up the wrong post.
229   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 10, 10:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Thanks @Hircus

1) and 2) are bugs. I will fix them tomorrow.

Can you tell me more about ending up on the wrong comment? (In my own terminology, a thread is a post.)
230   Hircus   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 12:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

You know I thought the link scrolled me down to the wrong comment in the thread, but I was mistaken - it just simply doesnt scroll to a comment at all. If the link doesnt give me the "invalid start number" error (most links give this error now), then it just doesnt scroll me down to any comments.

This link exhibits such behavior. It should take my to the last page where my comment is, and then also scroll me down to the comment, but doesnt. I see the first post in the thread, and then the first comment underneath it is 2116 out of 4485. No auto scrolling occurs.
https://patrick.net/post/1338647?start=2116#comment-1840406

I suppose this is because the url param start=2116 is wrong. The url should probably be start=4485 or something like that, to take me to the page where my comment is. I bet fixing the other bug fixes this too.
231   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 May 11, 4:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

@Patrick - where is your current code again?

You need a regression test system. I've made a few. I need to look at (and setup) your code to see how I approach it. As I recall, you're using nginx, mysql, and your code. I can short circuit the email system so I can simulate that.

Curl should be able to simulate user interaction. Verifying what it produces should yield the same results.
232   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 11:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Hircus says
1) When I click on my profile and then view my comments (https://patrick.net/comments?a=Hircus), they now start at my oldest comment, when it used to be my newest comment. I prefer the old behavior if this wasn't an intentional change.


@Hircus your comments should start with the newest page of comments now.
233   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 11:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Hircus says
2) When viewing my comment list, if I click the date/permalink link of a comment, in the past it would take me right to my comment, but not anymore. Some links give me an "invalid start number" error, like this one
https://patrick.net/post/1345054?start=2118#comment-1840720


This is also fixed in that if a url has a start comment number which is larger than the number of comments on that post, it just shows you the last page of comments instead of quitting with an error message.
234   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 11:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Hircus says
I suppose this is because the url param start=2116 is wrong. The url should probably be start=4485 or something like that, to take me to the page where my comment is. I bet fixing the other bug fixes this too.




Correct, the start param is wrong, because the page of comments which starts there does not contain the comment number in the hash tag.

Where did you get that url with the incompatible start and comment_id params? I should fix that if the url appeared on the site.
235   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 11:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
You need a regression test system.


I do have one, using mocha:

https://mochajs.org/?source=patrick.net

I have only basic tests for creating an account, logging in, creating a post and a comment, and a few other things like that.

I should create a few more, but:
1. I run them on every checkin to git, so I don't want them to take more than a few seconds.
2. I find that if my tests are too elaborate, I end up fixing tests all the time when I change the code, which is not productive.
236   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 11:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Oops, clicking on quotes is broken because the start param is null.

Will fix.
237   Hircus   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 12:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
Where did you get that url with the incompatible start and comment_id params? I should fix that if the url appeared on the site.


From https://patrick.net/comments?a=Hircus
238   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 12:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Thanks, fixed that now.

Still need to fix the link in a quote.
239   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 11, 12:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

OK, the link in a new quote should work now.

I still have to go back and change the database so that previous quote links work.

BTW, you can now search a person's comments on their comments page, eg:

https://patrick.net/comments?a=Patrick
240   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 12, 2:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

@HunterTits

I removed the link to search for comments with images, because it is really just a search and you can search a person's comments now. So you can still see all your tit pics like this:

https://patrick.net/comments?a=HunterTits&s=width+height&start=3210#last
241   HunterTits   ignore (6)   2022 May 12, 3:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says

@HunterTits

I removed the link to search for comments with images, because it is really just a search and you can search a person's comments now. So you can still see all your tit pics like this:

https://patrick.net/comments?a=HunterTits&s=width+height&start=3210#last


It shows everything that has 'width' & 'height'..

Bit that is ok.
242   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 12, 5:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

@HunterTits I made the search start on the last page of result if you include -1 as the start param, for example:

https://patrick.net/comments?a=HunterTits&s=width+height&start=-1#last

That way you can always get to your last comment with an image even as the number of comments changes.

If you want to see the whole last page of comments and not just the very last one, leave off the #last like this:

https://patrick.net/comments?a=HunterTits&s=width+height&start=-1
243   Onvacation   ignore (7)   2022 May 12, 5:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

HunterTits says

It shows everything that has 'width' & 'height'..

Width and height, tits and ass, whatever.

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