« First « Previous Comments 88 - 127 of 155 Next » Last » Search these comments
Some people think a 100x100 lot is rural, some others think a 100 acre ranch
is rural. It means different things to different people..
So, what's yours???
The same with "densely populated"... I'm sure mine's different then yours. I
can't answer until I know your point of reference and what you're use
to...
Now, see if you can answer them......
Really, Are these two questions that difficult for you to answer????
And yet you still have NOT answered my question, that preceded yours quite a bit. Your obtuse game of rope-a-dope is getting old.
But, here's the question again:
So, let me see if I am getting the BS point that you're trying to make. In one of THE most densely populated states, and YOU claim that it IS a densely populated area, that you say there is NO nat gas available, just propane and electric?
Are you ever going to answer the question above or just continue with your childish games and BS routine? FYI, Iasked that question in post #173, and you went into your default BS mode and tried to answer a question with a question starting in post #195
Peter Schiff was wrong. A loaf of bread is not $50.
"The Price is Wrong, bitch!" -- Bob Barker fighting Adam Sandler
Corzine broke the law. And if nobody broke any laws, which is not true, the laws themselves are an example of crony capitalism.
Yep. Plenty of bankstas broke the law as well selling "super-safe" investments while boasting in emails how they got rid of this "crap" => clear fraud.
And the bailouts have been paid back in debased dollars. So they have not been paid back. Lend me 700 billion dollars. I would have no trouble paying you back in a year with their nonsense interest payment and keep a nice little stash for myself.
Exactly.
Also they bailed out AIG and Fannie and Freddie and all the others. This is why the FED is debasing the currency so the crooks can pay back everything in debased money.
Yep.
they can in fact be dealt with by democratically elected leaders such as happened during Teddy Roosevelt's presidency.
Teddy Roosevelt started the anti trust yup, but the truth is there is no such thing as a monopoly other than one mandated by government.
So Teddy saved us from the terrible robber barons. Who created a higher standard of living for the American people and the world than at any other time. You know things like giving us the ability to read at night, build things out of steel which allowed taller buildings, move around with cars instead of horses. Yes what good a boy Teddy was....
What again is your story for the financial collapse in '08? Is it because the FED kept interest rates too low for too long? We are doing the same things now but on steroids.
Yes, pretty much.
How is making fraud legal not crony capitalism?
"crony capitalism" is a "thought-terminating cliche" that obscures more than it explains.
Is our $2T/yr real estate sector "crony capitalism"?
is health sector "crony capitalism"?
is our import-dependent economy "crony capitalism"?
is the $800B/yr we flush away in "defense" "crony capitalism"?
is the giveaways of public land and the commons to agriculture and energy "crony capitalism"?
is big finance "crony capitalism"?
Shit, half our economy if not more is "crony capitalism". No wonder things are so fucked; we're about as bad off as Russia was ca. 1980.
an you even read and comprehend a thing? I said an atlas, you reply to try an American atlas, and then you look it up through google. Pathetic.
I looked up Egg Harbor in a 2009 Rand McNally atlas, and there's only ONE Egg Harbor listed, which is directly below the Wharton State Forest, so if there really are others(same town name in the same state?)why aren't they listed unless they're too small???
Sorry I really don't remember the last time I used a paper map or atlas. How quaint, very old school, Here's Rand Mcnally's driving directions from Egg Harbor township to Egg Harbor City and then driving directions from Egg Harbor township to Little Egg Harbor township. Perhaps you need to check you eyeglass prescription. Was that RM 2009 or RM 1809 you were looking at? I may not comprehend much, but I do remember the names of places I've been, even the ones I haven't been to in well over 20 years.
http://maps.randmcnally.com/#s=screen&lat=39.11339950561523&lon=-94.62660217285156&zoom=9&loc1=Egg%20Harbor%20Township%2C%20NJ&loc2=Egg%20Harbor%20City%2C%20NJ&loc3=&loc4=&loc5=&loc6=&loc7=&loc8=&loc9=&loc10=
http://maps.randmcnally.com/#s=screen&lat=39.11339950561523&lon=-94.62660217285156&zoom=10&loc1=Egg%20Harbor%20Township%2C%20NJ&loc2=Little%20Egg%20Harbor%20Twp%2C%20NJ&loc3=&loc4=&loc5=&loc6=&loc7=&loc8=&loc9=&loc10=
same town name in the same state?
Too complex a thought for you to grasp? With 565 (insanity, but that's a different discussion) governments NJ has quite a number of duplicate names. There are lots of towns and townships with the same name and there are some just plain old dups. I know there are something like 4-5 Washington and Franklin Townships and 2 Fairfields all in different parts of the state. There are more to be had if I wanted to bother to look it up.
is health sector "crony capitalism"?
Yes.
is the $800B/yr we flush away in "defense" "crony capitalism"?
Yes.
Bellingham Bill says
is big finance "crony capitalism"?
Yes.
Shit, half our economy if not more is "crony capitalism".
Only half??
yeah, I totally missed another sector of course, telecommunications.
Cable, cell phone, that's "crony capitalism" too.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?id=CP
I'm feeling like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope here.
wow I had no idea Cynicism lead to Stoicism.
that, actually, makes sense.
I'm feeling like
You are no Diogenes, you and your ilk don't have the virtue to look.
Wow, playing the man and not the ball.
Stay classy
Actually playing the actions, a Diogenes trick
Here's Rand Mcnally's driving directions from Egg Harbor township to Egg Harbor
City and then driving directions from Egg Harbor township to Little Egg Harbor
township
Just as I thought, and you just confirmed, a township is NOT an actual town, or even the name of a town.
Is it?
Most villages, towns, or even cities are located within a township whose name is different from the above. That does not change the name of the town.
same town name in the same state?
And the leg-humping routine starts again. Do you really think that you could convince ANYBODY that a township is an actual town????
You're really are a pathetic individual. So to you, there's ??/who knows how many Egg Harbors in NJ, but to the rest of us sane and rational people, there's only one TOWN(notice the spelling?? And NO differentiating word to seperate the name from a like-named town???) named Egg Harbor in NJ, population 4497(per Rand McNally 2009) at exit 17W unless that number has been changed.
Abenomics might test this "inflation good" stuff.
If wages don't rise there, their inflation might come out of rents and land values.
Theoretically that should happen, but there's usually a gap between theory and reality, especially in economics.
btw if anyone wants to see the original thread that I posted and was deleted by IWRONG and see IWRONG original post before he edited, just look at my comments...
so sad when you have to go so far as to delete peoples comments and edit yours....
Some people see debate as a way to test ideas and discover truth. Such people understand that they "win" even if they "lose" the debate, since wrong/bad ideas were shown to be wrong/bad.
Other people see debate as a way to "create truth" by repeating an assertion endlessly, ignoring all contrary assertions and refutations. Such people are part of the "don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up" crowd. That way of thinking seems especially prevalent on the far-right these days.
and other people choose to make false arguments just to win a debate and get mad when someone calls them out on it...
We don't have hyperinflation. Or even bad inflation. Oil is still about $100. Natural gas prices have tanked. A loaf of bread is still about $2.50. A mcdonalds double-cheeseburger is still about $1.25. A typical McDonald's value meal is still about $6. A nice new car about $20-25k. Even the worst drought in recent history hasn't affected food prices that much. Where's the big inflation?
Sure, our third-world health care racket keeps getting more and more expensive, no doubt. But that's not the fault of the Fed.
We don't have hyperinflation.
Agreed.
Or even bad inflation
Disagreed. I'd give it a range anywhere between 3% (if you're lucky) and 10% (if you're unlucky), and even 3% p.a. is brutal AKA bad. A family with a combined income of 100K at 20 needs to have a combined income of 250K at 50 just to keep track with 3% p.a. inflation - let alone the need for building money for retirement. There are very few job categories that let you have the possibility (if you excel) of such a trajectory (luckily tech is one), but for most areas that sort of wage increase is simply not possible.
Where do you get the figure of 3% to 10%? 3% isn't too bad...if I'm not mistaken, 3% is the fed's target rate. 10% is very bad.
One must use a "basket of goods" to measure overall inflation since the price of a single commodity can fluctuate wildly.
Example: beef has gone up quite a bit. Other meats have not.
Where do you get the figure of 3% to 10%? 3% isn't too bad...if I'm not mistaken, 3% is the fed's target rate. 10% is very bad.
My own calculations and and the EPI:
https://www.aier.org/article/7557-epi-reflects-basic-economic-change
I think the Fed's target rate is 2%, but I am not sure. I'd say that's not bad if most incomes rise more or less in lockstep, but personally I'd prefer 0.5%-1% max. and even period of similarly small deflation are fine.
Mell,
There's no question that oil prices have skyrocketed in the last 10 years. And yes, that's hurt everyone. And the price has been volatile...both supply and demand are very inelastic. Thank you, China & India. That's not the fault of the federal reserve, right?
That's why I don't buy the whole "fed is causing serious inflation right now" idea.
Sure, the whole business of "printing money" seems shady to me, as it probably does to most regular people. After all, if you or I were to print money, we'd go to jail. Nonetheless, the facts don't support the claim that the fed is causing serious inflation now.
No one is claiming there has been no inflation since 1912. That's a straw man.
Peter Schiff was obviously wrong. There has been no collapse of the dollar or hyperinflation. Even if inflation were at 10% (it isn't), that's hardly a "collapse" or "hyperinflation."
Do I hate the tbtf banks? Absolutely. They should have been broken up and/or nationalized, with CEOs forced to give up their positions and bonuses. An "epic fail" should not be rewarded.
But that doesn't mean we're headed for doomsday. Peter Schiff was wrong, and anyone who put their 401k into gold and silver fearing Armageddon is possibly sitting on a very painful loss.
It's funny how you are such an "expert" in a area you don't live in...
amazing...
LOL, so just HOW MANY Egg Harbors are there then in NJ??
Not LITTLE Egg Harbor, not Great egg Harbor, Not some variation of an Egg Harbor Township.............................................JUST EGG HARBOR??
And while you're at it, feel free to expound upon your claim that"huge sections of the county don't have nat gas nearby", and WHY.
Hmmm, it's probably a brain fart on your part, but as a FYI, you were having
the Egg Harbor fight with Bob, Not me....
He(you) somehow had the need to give some BS geography lesson, and when I responded to his nonsensical shit, you respond. Ah, how cute, and weird.
And yet you haven't explained at all your claims of the lack of nat gas. availiblity/access, have you? And no, I'm not surprised either.
Are you afraid that you'll totally embarrass yourself because none of the facts to support your assertions aren't readily available from wikipedia? I think that's THE major reason for your vagueness and constant attempts to change the subject, and then the ensuing routine of splitting hairs or arguing endlessly about how wet water is. But you're a computer geek and apparently believe that the internet will somehow make you smarter, or at least provide the info to fill in the numerous gaps of facts and real world knowledge that you lack.
Hmmm... maybe because I can see the big white propane tanks on their
yards..... I think that's a dead give-away that there's no natural gas going to
the house...
Just like I thought, no reasonable answer. Shit, you're too f-n lazy to even make a lame-ass one up.
Wow, delusional much??? Bob was schooling you on local Egg Harbor geography,
not me.... It's nice that your such the local expert on this area of NJ... (or
you just think so)....
LOL, schooling? More like a circle-jerk of pointless, and useless info that made him actually look dumber, than smarter.
And yet after my response to him, you reply.
Not him, YOU. Like I said before, weird.
And you still haven't backed up any of your claims about availability/access of nat gas.
You have no idea at all do you, and your constant evasion of the issue confirms it, just like I thought.
And now you deleted your post, how pathetic.
Here, I'll help you since you REALLY have problems understanding written
words.... Maybe going back to 2nd grade and using pictures will help you...
The computer geek can paste pictures and put captions on them, but can't explain or back up his BS claims. Shocker. LOL.
And apparently delete any embarrassing posts too. Loser.
At least you know that you know nothing about the claims that you made and you are at least smart enough to not let yourself get cornered by posting anything that is easily refuted, and embarrassing for you. I'll give you that much.
even if you tax the 1% at 100%
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=mSh
blue is after-tax corporate profits
red is the annual federal deficit
just sayin'
Nonetheless, the facts don't support the claim that the fed is causing serious inflation now
They're preventing serious deflation, which is the same thing to people sitting on shitloads of money.
Copper is way the hell higher. Copper was sitting well under a dollar in the 1990s
http://skift.com/2013/08/07/the-radical-26-year-transformation-of-shanghai-captured-in-2-photos/#1
http://skift.com/2013/08/07/the-radical-26-year-transformation-of-shanghai-captured-in-2-photos/#2
Mell,
There's no question that oil prices have skyrocketed in the last 10 years. And yes, that's hurt everyone. And the price has been volatile...both supply and demand are very inelastic. Thank you, China & India. That's not the fault of the federal reserve, right?
That's why I don't buy the whole "fed is causing serious inflation right now" idea.
Sure, the whole business of "printing money" seems shady to me, as it probably does to most regular people. After all, if you or I were to print money, we'd go to jail. Nonetheless, the facts don't support the claim that the fed is causing serious inflation now.
The Fed is causing inflation in the classical sense as defined as an increase in the supply of money and credit.
Without the fed's intervention with three trillion of Qe we would have already had a massive deflationary depression as companies failed, demand dropped and unemployment rose. During this period the economy would have restructured as mal investment would have been liquidated and entities would have been allowed to fail.
The fed is fighting valiantly against deflation as they are trying to create 2pct price inflation by stimulating demand in an economy where naturally without Qe it would be lower
By
And while you're at it, feel free to expound upon your claim that"huge sections of the county don't have nat gas nearby", and WHY,
Hmmm... maybe because I can see the big white propane tanks on their yards..... I think that's a dead give-away that there's no natural gas going to the house...
But, I could just be guessing....
Nonetheless, the facts don't support the claim that the fed is causing serious inflation now
They're preventing serious deflation, which is the same thing to people sitting on shitloads of money.
Correct bob
See my duplicative post below
You're really are a pathetic individual. So to you, there's ??/who knows how many Egg Harbors in NJ, but to the rest of us sane and rational people, there's only one TOWN
Egg Harbor and Little Egg Harbor are completely different towns. In fact, there's probably 3 or 4 towns in between the two.
This goes on a lot in NJ. There is Freehold and Upper Freehold, both separated by Millstone.
There is North Brunswick, South Brunswick, East Brunswick, and New Brunswick. All completely different towns that border each other.
And yes, a lot of people in those areas have no natural gas line into their home. It's not uncommon for the main part of town to have water, sewer and natural gas lines while the outskirts and older roads have septic, well, and no gas line. Some of them still have oil heat while others get Natural Gas delivery.
Your graph indicates about 18% profit. Notice it skyrockets since uncle ben et al have been baling out the mutts that should be on their ass.
Bingo!
oil
Yeah, I'm not sure why, but the areas with people still on oil heat are filled with weird people. It's incredibly expensive, and they get delivery all the time. And when the oil tank goes down, they install a new one instead of converting.
LOL ! Over 2000 views and 300+ comments but yet the aLMIGHTY oRACLE condemns and ridicules such valid and untainted media ....well as the old adage goes ....consider the source!
« First « Previous Comments 88 - 127 of 155 Next » Last » Search these comments
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-25/peter-schiff-was-right-part-deux-%E2%80%9Ctaper%E2%80%9D-edition