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Depends on how that money gets there. If by government bureaucratic redistribution
There need not be new gov. jobs to raise the minimum wage.
Raising minimum wage doesn't "get there" at all, in fact goes in the opposite direction: Raising minimum wage benefit higher income earners at the expense of lower income earners, whose jobs get destroyed. For example, if an experienced worker can make 200 widgets in an hour and is paid $15/hr; two less experienced workers each can make 120 widgets an hour and are paid $7.50/hr each. With these parameters, the employer can consider hiring two newbies instead of an experienced worker if he has the time to train newbies. With minimum wage raised to $10/hr, the two newbies literally get banned from being hired, and the employer can only hire the experienced worker.
Luckily they are relegated to re-working the past to fit their scripture since no one in power is foolish enough to institute their principles and give their madness a test case
If Obama could win in 2008, Cruz could win in 2016 . . .
Cruz is the perfect storm of Texas wingnut, the mirror image of Obama maxed out. His Christian fundamentalist bona fides are much stronger than Bush's, he's got an immigrant story like Obama, and he's made a name for himself with the shutdown bullshit.
On my jog yesterday I was thinking how German fascism's electoral rise came from a deeply divided populace, with the nazis promising a "compassionate nationalism" (that's where they got their name), coopting the socialist left by ostensibly rejecting the Misean strains of traditional German conservatism.
Our economy in 2016 isn't going to look like the disaster that was depression era Germany, but some of the themes are the same.
Cruz and Ryan are bullshit artists par excellence. They're the system's last and best hopes in finally killing and burying the welfare state that arose 1950-1980 and has been under attack since then (with ACA being a rare reversal for them).
So the 2014 election cycle is going to be interesting, if not pivotal. The American people have a choice again; they can go 2010 (rightward) or 2012 (leftward), and I don't know which as of now.
I *am* seeing tons more in the media about inequality etc. compared to ten years ago, so that's good at least.
Depends on how that money gets there. If by government bureaucratic redistribution
There need not be new gov. jobs to raise the minimum wage.
Raising minimum wage doesn't "get there" at all. Raising minimum wage benefit higher income earners at the expense of lower income earners, whose jobs get destroyed.
OK, so you bailed on the "government" scare-job. Thanks for that.
No I did not. Raising minimum wage just doesn't happen to be one of those events that redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor; instead, it's the other way around.
If you insist on setting parameters in order to give advantage to your argument you needn't converse with anyone but yourself. Minimum wage "get's there" the same way it always does: it's enacted. And the experienced worker will just holdout for more in wages as a result. The jobs don't get destroyed, the wage rate gets destroyed.
I did not at all set up contrived parameters. Do you not believe that workers make twice as much as minimum wage can be close to twice as productive as a newbie? Raising minimum wage effectively protects the experienced worker against competition from newbies. Jobs get destroyed here all the time: look at the automatic check-out machine, look at the assembly robots, look at Chindia.
In a previous example you suggested how few in America make MW and how little an increase would help the economy. If that's the case then the resulting costs passed on to consumers would be lesser still as more people who make above MW would help absorb those the increase. I bet there would be no noticeable increase at all. It's just fear-mongering.
I'm not concerned about inflation resulting from raising minimum wage. I'm concerned about low-end jobs being destroyed leaving the youth permanently unemployed as they can't get started on the ladder for legal jobs. They would then have to resort to the illegal job market in order to make a living. When legit jobs are made illegal, they will have to have illegal jobs. There is always a labor market demand for drug trafficking and prostitution.
And yes, Henry Ford compensated his workers enough so that they could afford his product, and did so with this explicit end in mind.
Actually, he did so because people hated working there, and Ford's company town was very snoopy and intrusive, an Orwellian State. They took jobs, worked for a few months, and then skedattled at first opportunity. Ford had to offer higher wages to get workers to stay on, and he gave up his Utopian Police State idea as well.
I'm concerned about low-end jobs being destroyed leaving the youth permanently unemployed as they can't get started on the ladder for legal jobs.
There is no ladder anymore. If you start as a burger flipper, you'll get as far as shift supervisor at maybe $9/hr max. Past that, you need to find $30k for college at least. This ain't 1955, there is no upward path for unskilled workers without massive educational costs (and then, no guarantee of a job, also unlike 1955, when it was unheard of of a college graduate not to find a middle class job almost instanteously).
I *am* seeing tons more in the media about inequality etc. compared to ten years ago, so that's good at least.
That is on the 2014 agenda for Obama. So the media lackies are
following Obamas lead so they spread the word across all media channels.
Min. wage is their resultion to inequalities...
No new jobs, no economic expansion no boom to hirings/careers.
This is it.. this is all you get... this is your future.
Eight stinky ass years of incompetent anti business crap from the
Democrats.
Another point about minimum wage is that the jobs would simply go to China, oh that's right they did...
Nothing to do with minimum wage. Are you being intentionally facile or are you just ignorant? I really can't tell.
This is utter nonsense. Henry Ford said that for propaganda value.
Everything outside of fucking and eating is propaganda. So what's your point?
Another point about minimum wage is that the jobs would simply go to China, oh that's right they did...
Nothing to do with minimum wage. Are you being intentionally facile or are you just ignorant? I really can't tell.
If the Americans were willing to work for the same wages why would the jobs go offshore?
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