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2014 Jun 16, 4:09am   38,108 views  99 comments

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKsiDV1LuJA

In his latest, hard-hitting FIREWALL, Bill provides a moment-by-moment breakdown of the events leading up to the attack on the Consulate in Benghazi, a detailed analysis of who was doing and saying what as the attack was underway, and chronicles the following ten days of deceptions and lies on the part of the White House and the State Department, throwing a clear, cold and unflattering light on the competence and character of the President and Secretary of State.

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1   indigenous   2014 Jun 16, 5:51am  

This is a great video that cuts through the propaganda on this subject.

2   HEY YOU   2014 Jun 16, 3:52pm  

A "moment-by-moment breakdown of the events" on 9-11. G.W. Bush sitting in school. Wonder if he learned anything? The rest of the Administration,fucking off.

"..throwing a clear, cold and unflattering light on the competence and character.." of President Bush & the Republicans.

3   indigenous   2014 Jun 16, 3:55pm  

HEY YOU says

.throwing a clear, cold and unflattering light on the competence and character.." of President Bush & the Republicans.

ok

5   indigenous   2014 Jun 16, 4:02pm  

yea that is the same thing, flawless logic, what a twit.

6   prodigy   2014 Jun 16, 10:56pm  

This will be the undoing of Hillary in the 2016 run.
If she doesn't take herself out before then with all the political fuckups she's been executing lately.

indigenous says

This is a great video that cuts through the propaganda on this subject.

7   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 12:04am  

prodigy says

This will be the undoing of Hillary in the 2016 run.

If she doesn't take herself out before then with all the political fuckups she's been executing lately.

I hope so, and please no more ideologues.

8   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 12:20am  

You might want to be more concerned with who will be the republican candidate.......

9   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 12:28am  

yup1 says

You might want to be more concerned with who will be the republican candidate.......

Yup, but I think people have had their fill of democrats. O was a novelty, hopefully the novelty has worn off.

They might vote for someone with principles and integrity.

To me that is Rand Paul

10   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:20am  

yup1 says

I am sorry to inform you of this but Rand Paul cannot win a general election for president of the United States of America.

Notice I said might and to me?

So have things gotten better under Obama? It has been 6 years now, tic toc. Or are they happy with being co-opted just like their rich cousins collecting corporate welfare?

11   edvard2   2014 Jun 17, 1:21am  

prodigy says

This will be the undoing of Hillary in the 2016 run.

That is what the GOP desperately wants to believe. The writing is already on the wall for their party in 2016: They are going to lose and do so big time mainly because the changes that party needed to make in order to win haven't happened at all.

12   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:23am  

edvard2 says

That is what the GOP desperately wants to believe.

What is Hillary going to bring to the party? or is she another novelty?

13   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:31am  

Call it Crazy says

I've asked that same question over and over, and to date, you know what response I've received?????

That question mark is making more and more sense, as this crowd is very questionable.

14   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:32am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

I saw Michelle Obama and Janet Reno unleash CRA MEMES during the attack. Immense Hirsute Lesbian CRA MEMES!

But you have to admit that would be novel?

15   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 1:32am  

indigenous says

So have things gotten better under Obama?

Stock Market has tripled. Housing has gone up 25% or more. Unemployment has dropped by 3% or more. Corporate profits are through the roof. We are out of the war in Iraq. We are moving toward exiting the war in Afganistan.....

A better question to ask is what are the Rand Paul policies that you believe will improve the welfare of the citizens of these United States?

16   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:34am  

yup1 says

Stock Market has tripled. Housing has gone up 25% or more. Unemployment has dropped by 3% or more. Corporate profits are through the roof. We are out of the war in Iraq. We are moving toward exiting the war in Afganistan.....

Wow, it is hard to imagine you frequent this forum and can still be that ignorant.

yup1 says

A better question to ask is what are the Rand Paul policies that you believe will improve the welfare of the citizens of these United States?

Theoretically a better standard of living for ALL, with more freedom.

But at this point we are circling the drain pretty fast.

17   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 1:35am  

Call it Crazy says

indigenous says

edvard2 says

That is what the GOP desperately wants to believe.

What is Hillary going to bring to the party? or is she another novelty?

I've asked that same question over and over, and to date, you know what response I've received?????

Crickets......

She is going to bring the presidency.

What is Rand Paul going to bring?

An absolute eviceration of the republican party.

18   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:35am  

yup1 says

An absolute eviceration of the republican party.

Fine by me

19   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 1:37am  

indigenous says

Theoretically a better standard of living for ALL, with more freedom.

Theoretically, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, who is ignorant?

20   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:37am  

yup1 says

who is ignorant?

I even have to repeat that? YOU

21   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 1:42am  

indigenous says

yup1 says

An absolute eviceration of the republican party.

Fine by me

Ok now I am trying to get what you mean. So you want an ultra conservative to destroy the republican party so afterward you get.....

a. A More conservative party?
b. A more moderate party?

I mean theoretically you should want a more moderate party if you want the ultra conservative libertarian to destroy the party. But your views are ultra conservative/libertarian so.....what are you trying to accomplish?

22   edvard2   2014 Jun 17, 1:42am  

indigenous says

What is Hillary going to bring to the party? or is she another novelty?

A whole hell of a lot more than whoever the GOP chooses because if the last two elections are any indicator they'll choose someone totally inappropriate.

23   edvard2   2014 Jun 17, 1:45am  

Here's the thing. A lot of us Democrats AND Republicans want a more moderate GOP. No- that doesn't mean the GOP suddenly starts acting like Democrats. Maybe more like the GOP of 20-30 years ago. The further to the right the GOP drifts the less they are beneficial in solving real world problems. A more moderate GOP would also mean a more moderate Democratic party. Both parties being more moderate would mean a return to more sensible, less sensational politics and more measured, reasonable, and actionable government...

24   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:46am  

yup1 says

I mean theoretically you should want a more moderate party if you want the ultra conservative libertarian to destroy the party. But your views are ultra conservative/libertarian so.....what are you trying to accomplish?

Libertarians by definition are socially liberal and economically conservative.

The biggest threat to freedom is economic freedom which is a burden to every one. This means get rid of debt.

25   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:47am  

edvard2 says

A whole hell of a lot more than whoever the GOP chooses because if the last two elections are any indicator they'll choose someone totally inappropriate.

That is a non answer you did not say anything.

26   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 1:51am  

The republicans I talk to want to destroy the GOP as it is today and replace it with the more conservative Tea Party. Every republican that I have talked to calls every moderate republican a RINO. Every republican that I have talked to and discussed Ronald Reagan with now calls him a RINO. The GOP of 20-30 years ago was a bunch of RINO's to the current average republican that I talk with. They want a more conservative republican party, which will destroy the party.

27   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 1:52am  

indigenous says

yup1 says

I mean theoretically you should want a more moderate party if you want the ultra conservative libertarian to destroy the party. But your views are ultra conservative/libertarian so.....what are you trying to accomplish?

Libertarians by definition are socially liberal and economically conservative.

The biggest threat to freedom is economic freedom which is a burden to every one. This means get rid of debt.

Ok, so you want to eliminate debt. How?

28   prodigy   2014 Jun 17, 1:53am  

The writing is on the wall.
But not for the things stated by either side in this thread.
By 2016 Iraq will have split into 3 separate entities.
One of those states will be controlled by Al Queida et al.
Not just Obama, but the entire democratic party will be held responsible for allowing this direct threat to the US to exist.
Every foreign policy debacle will seem larger than life to the american public.
Benghazi will be held up as living proof of the stupidity of the administration.

The galling part for the people will be that all Obama had to do was follow the blueprint that history provided for converting subhuman societies to democratic bastions. South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc etc.

Simple leaving 20K troops on the ground for 20-40 years has repeatedly done the trick. Early withdrawal is a hallmark of the democrats, and is the exact opposite of what was needed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
edvard2 says

prodigy says

This will be the undoing of Hillary in the 2016 run.

That is what the GOP desperately wants to believe. The writing is already on the wall for their party in 2016:

29   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:53am  

edvard2 says

Here's the thing. A lot of us Democrats AND Republicans want a more moderate GOP. No- that doesn't mean the GOP suddenly starts acting like Democrats. Maybe more like the GOP of 20-30 years ago. The further to the right the GOP drifts the less they are beneficial in solving real world problems. A more moderate GOP would also mean a more moderate Democratic party. Both parties being more moderate would mean a return to more sensible, less sensational politics and more measured, reasonable, and actionable government...

Actually the missing element is compromise.

Both sides have acquiesced to the monetary expedient compromising everything in the process.

Both parties should be who they are but have to compromise or nothing happens.

But one way or another this country is going to fail soon without a miraculous change. Many doubt this but that doesn't make it so.

30   Y   2014 Jun 17, 1:56am  

Thats what She said...

prodigy says

Early withdrawal is a hallmark of the democrats,

31   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 1:58am  

yup1 says

Ok, so you want to eliminate debt. How?

Not likely to happen.

1 educate people about super simple economics on television.Not a small project but Paul Martin did it in Canada in the 80s and the results were real.

2 You put in a budget. Not the horse shit that they do now but a real one.

3 Highly unlikely but you get rid of redundancies and corruption (top to bottom)

32   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 1:59am  

prodigy says

Benghazi will be held up as living proof of the stupidity of the administration.

Those not watching Fox News do not care at all about Bendhazi.

prodigy says

By 2016 Iraq will have split into 3 separate entities.

One of those states will be controlled by Al Queida et al.

You think? I mean maybe. If Al Qaeda had a state I am pretty sure it would become a nice fat target. We could carpet bomb it for practice.

33   yup1   2014 Jun 17, 2:04am  

indigenous says

yup1 says

Ok, so you want to eliminate debt. How?

Not likely to happen.

1 educate people about super simple economics on television.Not a small project but Paul Martin did it in Canada in the 80s and the results were real.

2 You put in a budget. Not the horse shit that they do now but a real one.

3 Highly unlikely but you get rid of redundancies and corruption (top to bottom)

So a fundamental change. We are talking about the presidential election of 2016? I mean I hear you, but it is not like any politician is going to propose or attempt to do anything like this.

34   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 2:05am  

Call it Crazy says

5) The country wants real change.

That is what I think.

George Will said a while back that Hillary's time has passed. No longer in the zeitgeist?

35   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 2:07am  

yup1 says

So a fundamental change. We are talking about the presidential election of 2016? I mean I hear you, but it is not like any politician is going to propose or attempt to do anything like this.

Reading between the lines I think Rand Paul is, to some degree Paul Ryan regarding a budget.

36   indigenous   2014 Jun 17, 2:18am  

Call it Crazy says

If they vote for an "empty pantsuit" with NO accomplishments (former Senator and Sec of State) this time around, well, then there's ZERO hope for this country...

Agreed, goes from slim to none

37   Y   2014 Jun 17, 5:40am  

By your definition it looks like Barack and Hillary are big Fox fans....

http://www.youtube.com/embed/8zN8AswLTs4
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-obama-benghazi--20140617-story.html

yup1 says

prodigy says

Benghazi will be held up as living proof of the stupidity of the administration.

Those not watching Fox News do not care at all about Bendhazi.

38   edvard2   2014 Jun 17, 5:45am  

indigenous says

That is a non answer you did not say anything.

of course it was. The GOP chose crappy candidates in 08 and 12 and so I fail to see what's changed: They'll once more choose a totally inappropriate candidate with outdated idealogical plans and lose the vote to basically everyone except for their shrinking base.

39   edvard2   2014 Jun 17, 5:46am  

prodigy says

The writing is on the wall.

Some people apparently live in a mythical universe...

40   edvard2   2014 Jun 17, 5:48am  

indigenous says

Reading between the lines I think Rand Paul is, to some degree Paul Ryan regarding a budget.

Here's the only problem with Ryan. I will give it to him that he is a smart guy. But a whole ton of the plans that he has proposed economic-wise would not only bankrupt the country but put even more money into the pockets out outside controlling interests in various lobbys, industrial umbrella groups, and so on. In other words he would be like the version of economics the GOP favors but on a much greater, amplified basis.

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