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Turtle Dove this is for you.

By Strategist follow Strategist   2014 Jul 17, 12:51pm 9,576 views   34 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Because you are a turtle. @turtledove

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/07/16/diver-saves-a-turtles-life-and-is-repaid-the-kindness/20932145/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl8%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D502597

Can animals express gratitude? Most pet owners believe they can and this video suggests that saying "thank you" isn't uniquely human.

While spear fishing for tuna off Mexico's coast, Cameron Dietrich and Colin Sutton happen upon this sea turtle in trouble. Dietrich dives in and goes to work untangling the rope -- possibly part of a fishing net -- from around the turtle's flipper.

Once free, the sea turtle turns and begins to swim away. But then, an incredible thing happens. As Sutton continues to capture the scene with his go-pro camera, the turtle circles back. And swims up face to face with Dietrich, allowing the diver to hold him.

Is this turtle-speak for "thank you"? It could be. The World Wildlife Fund says fishing gear is the greatest threat to endangered sea turtles like loggerheads, green turtles and leather backs.

1   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 17, 12:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Well if we're doing homages...

2   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 17, 1:09pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

New Renter says

Well if we're doing homages...

For Call it Crazy...

3   Strategist   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 17, 1:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Call it Crazy says

Dan, why are you sharing videos of your personal sex life with us??

I thought we'd see a video of your hand?

Well, Dan......was it as good for you as it was for the shoe?

4   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 17, 1:38pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Dan8267 says

For Call it Crazy...

Not FortWayne?

Call it Crazy says

Dan, why are you sharing videos of your personal sex life with us??

I thought we'd see a video of your hand?

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

Dan, why are you sharing videos of your personal sex life with us??

I thought we'd see a video of your hand?

Well, Dan......was it as good for you as it was for the shoe?

Wow this got real ugly real quick

5   Ceffer   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 17, 2:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dan8267 says

New Renter says

Well if we're doing homages...

For Call it Crazy...

Really, now, did the turtle pay the shoe with a piece of lettuce?

6   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 17, 2:13pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

New Renter says

Call it Crazy says

Dan, why are you sharing videos of your personal sex life with us??

I thought we'd see a video of your hand?

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

Dan, why are you sharing videos of your personal sex life with us??

I thought we'd see a video of your hand?

Well, Dan......was it as good for you as it was for the shoe?

Wow this got real ugly real quick

Well, you have to give them credit for trying to come up with a creative comeback. Even though they failed, they put in the effort.

And after all, conservatives just aren't funny.

7   turtledove   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 17, 2:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Animals are so amazing. You've probably already seen this, as it's been around a while, but the leopard and the baby baboon is a wonderful video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugi4x8kZJzk

And the momma cat hugging her baby when the baby has a bad dream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgpeLFf4z4

8   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 17, 10:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

no...more often than not Dan likes to have a boot up his ass.. ..

Call it Crazy says

Dan, why are you sharing videos of your personal sex life with us??

I thought we'd see a video of your hand?

9   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 17, 10:32pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The feeding and caring of the 50,000 illegal immigrant children happening on our borders right also makes for a wonderful video, as long as one puts out of mind the 16.4 million children in the USA living in poverty at this moment while their food stamp and medical funds are diverted to the border.

Likewise, the leopard and baboon baby make a wonderful video, as long as one puts out of mind the leopard ripping to shreds the baby baboon's mother, right in front of the bastard ape, traumatizing the little hairy rat for life.

turtledove says

but the leopard and the baby baboon is a wonderful video:

10   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 18, 1:34am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

SoftShell says

Likewise, the leopard and baboon baby make a wonderful video, as long as one puts out of mind the leopard ripping to shreds the baby baboon's mother, right in front of the bastard ape, traumatizing the little hairy rat for life.

Yes that was a bit of creative editing.

11   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 18, 2:09am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SoftShell says

no...more often than not Dan likes to have a boot up his ass.. ..

Call it Crazy says

Dan, why are you sharing videos of your personal sex life with us??

I thought we'd see a video of your hand?

I love the smell of pissed-off conservatives in the morning. Smells like victory.

12   Strategist   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 18, 2:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

Animals are so amazing. You've probably already seen this, as it's been around a while, but the leopard and the baby baboon is a wonderful video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugi4x8kZJzk

And the momma cat hugging her baby when the baby has a bad dream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgpeLFf4z4

Ohhhhhh. So fascinating. There is something about baby mammals that brings out the best in us. Maybe there is hope for mankind.

13   Strategist   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 18, 2:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

turtledove says

Animals are so amazing. You've probably already seen this, as it's been around a while, but the leopard and the baby baboon is a wonderful video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugi4x8kZJzk

And the momma cat hugging her baby when the baby has a bad dream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgpeLFf4z4

Ohhhhhh. So fascinating. There is something about baby mammals that brings out the best in us. Maybe there is hope for mankind.

Try this - Turn on volume :)

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Hodomt6bBOw

14   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 18, 2:54am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Well since we're on animal documentaries:

15   turtledove   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 18, 2:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

New Renter says

SoftShell says

Likewise, the leopard and baboon baby make a wonderful video, as long as one puts out of mind the leopard ripping to shreds the baby baboon's mother, right in front of the bastard ape, traumatizing the little hairy rat for life.

Yes that was a bit of creative editing.

Yes, but that's what leopards do. They kill to eat. You can't judge an animal for surviving. What's amazing is that she (I don't know if it's male for female, but I will go with "she" for the purposes of this discussion) had some choices when she saw the baby. First, she had to decide what to do about her recent kill. Animals don't kill for sport. She killed so she could eat. She made a decision to leave her meal unattended to go see the baby. Second, when she saw the baby, she had to decide whether she would eat the baby. Third, when the hyena approached, she had to decide if she was going to defend her meal or the baby.

Not to turn this into a religious discussion, but it was this very topic that put the first cracks in my ability to accept religious teachings at Catholic school. I was about nine. The teacher was explaining that animals don't go to heaven because they don't have souls or the capacity for free will. I was appalled by the notion until I had an epiphany: How the hell do they know for sure! That was the beginning of the end. I became that kid in religion class questioning everything they tried to teach. I remember the nun finally yelling at me, "It doesn't matter! It's just a nice way to live." The video of the leopard shows that there is a capacity for free will. It validates what I suspected all those years ago.

I think the thing that moves me so much about animals is that they are so uncomplicated. Survival is their only ulterior motive. As humans, we need more than that, but now and then it's nice to get away from all the crap that surrounds us and be with something that just is.

16   turtledove   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 18, 3:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

Try this - Turn on volume :)

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Hodomt6bBOw

Okay, so I'm watching your video... Tears in my eyes (this always happens when I watch anything about animals.... nothing to be concerned about)... As I've mentioned before, my cats always seem to know when I'm feeling emotional. As soon as the first tears started to appear, Lily jumps up onto the couch. She sees what I'm looking at. She watched the entire video with her back paws on my legs and her front paws on the laptop. I wanted a picture of her watching, but I was afraid to move and spoil the moment. After the video finished, I set the laptop aside and replayed the video. Lily moved over to the laptop and watched it again. When it was finished, she got up and went about her business.

17   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 18, 3:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

Animals don't kill for sport. She killed so she could eat.

My brother in law hunts boar. Does he eat them? Yes. Does he HAVE to hunt to live and feed his family? No, but he does it anyway. Does he torture his prey? No.

My cat hunts birds and rodents. Does she eat them? Mostly. Does she have to hunt to live and feed her family (us)? No, but she does it anyway. Does she torture her prey? Yes.

Seems to me animals do kill for sport.

18   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 18, 4:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

New Renter says

Animals don't kill for sport.

How does this jibe with the behavior of wolves with a flock of sheep? They will kill way more than they can eat.

19   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 18, 4:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Automan Empire says

New Renter says

Animals don't kill for sport.

How does this jibe with the behavior of wolves with a flock of sheep? They will kill way more than they can eat.

You are misquoting me:

New Renter says

Seems to me animals do kill for sport.

20   turtledove   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 18, 4:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

New Renter says

turtledove says

Animals don't kill for sport. She killed so she could eat.

My brother in law hunts boar. Does he eat them? Yes. Does he HAVE to hunt to live and feed his family? No, but he does it anyway. Does he torture his prey? No.

My cat hunts birds and rodents. Does she eat them? Mostly. Does she have to hunt to live and feed her family (us)? No, but she does it anyway. Does she torture her prey? Yes.

Seems to me animals do kill for sport.

I don't begrudge your brother in law. Anyone who eats meat supports hunting at some level. Whether you buy it from a store or hunt for it yourself, it still serves the same purpose.

As for cats. Yes, they play. But I guess I don't see it as premeditated torture. I see it as more similar to when a three-year-old kid plays with a one-year-old kid. The older kid plays more roughly and doesn't have a good sense of his own strength and abilities as compared to the one-year-old.

"So, does this mean that the play date is over?"

The cat wants to play. He/she isn't able to tone down his/her methods to accommodate the much smaller, weaker animal. The cat just plays the only way he knows how to play.

I was talking more about killing for an inheritance... Or for passion. An animal isn't going to take yours simply so you cannot have it.

21   turtledove   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 18, 4:27am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Automan Empire says

New Renter says

Animals don't kill for sport.

How does this jibe with the behavior of wolves with a flock of sheep? They will kill way more than they can eat.

And don't wolves bury food for leaner times? At the end of the day, it's about food. They aren't killing these sheep to destroy the wool business so they can take over the world selling their poly blends.

22   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 18, 5:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

As for cats. Yes, they play. But I guess I don't see it as premeditated torture. I see it as more similar to when a three-year-old kid plays with a one-year-old kid. The older kid plays more roughly and doesn't have a good sense of his own strength and abilities as compared to the one-year-old.

"So, does this mean that the play date is over?"

Most three year olds don't end the playdate by eating the one year old. Or worse, bringing it home to show mom and dad.

You may be thinking of young cats still learning the ropes or adult cats that never learned how to hunt. There are plenty of cute videos showing cats playing nice with birds, mice, rats, whatever. Cats who know how to hunt are very capable of controlling themselves if they want to.

23   Strategist   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 18, 5:16am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

New Renter says

turtledove says

Animals don't kill for sport. She killed so she could eat.

My brother in law hunts boar. Does he eat them? Yes. Does he HAVE to hunt to live and feed his family? No, but he does it anyway. Does he torture his prey? No.

My cat hunts birds and rodents. Does she eat them? Mostly. Does she have to hunt to live and feed her family (us)? No, but she does it anyway. Does she torture her prey? Yes.

Seems to me animals do kill for sport.

Your cat is excused.
Your brother in law is a cold blooded killer.

24   Strategist   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 18, 5:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Turtle dove says:
"The cat wants to play. He/she isn't able to tone down his/her methods to accommodate the much smaller, weaker animal. The cat just plays the only way he knows how to play.

I was talking more about killing for an inheritance... Or for passion. An animal isn't going to take yours simply so you cannot have it."

My dog killed my daughters pet bunny. Then she kept trying to revive the bunny by constantly licking her. You could easily tell the guilt she was feeling. Till today, my daughter calls her a murderer.
My dog does the same with bees she happens to catch.

25   turtledove   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 18, 5:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

New Renter says

Cats who know how to hunt are very capable of controlling themselves if they want to.

And apparently leopards are capable of controlling themselves when they want to, too. Yet, all of them don't. Perhaps the ability to judge these kinds of things is part of the evolutionary process... where once instinct was in complete control, now we might see the beginnings of the ability to make a judgment call. Or, perhaps, some are just smarter than others. Or, perhaps, at the moment, they just aren't as hungry as they thought they were.

26   turtledove   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 18, 5:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

My dog killed my daughters pet bunny. Then she kept trying to revive the bunny by constantly licking her. You could easily tell the guilt she was feeling. Till today, my daughter calls her a murderer.

The play date that went very wrong. Poor baby.

27   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 18, 5:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

Your brother in law is a cold blooded killer.

Why? Does buying meat from the grocery store somehow completely absolve someone of the killing process? If someone hires a hitman to kill they are considered just as guilty of murder/attempted murder under the law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_killing

28   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 18, 5:41am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

New Renter says

Cats who know how to hunt are very capable of controlling themselves if they want to.

And apparently leopards are capable of controlling themselves when they want to, too. Yet, all of them don't. Perhaps the ability to judge these kinds of things is part of the evolutionary process... where once instinct was in complete control, now we might see the beginnings of the ability to make a judgment call. Or, perhaps, some are just smarter than others. Or, perhaps, at the moment, they just aren't as hungry as they thought they were.

Or maybe we've just now begun to pay attention.

29   Strategist   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 18, 5:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

New Renter says

Strategist says

Your brother in law is a cold blooded killer.

Why? Does buying meat from the grocery store somehow completely absolve someone of the killing process? If someone hires a hitman to kill they are considered just as guilty of murder/attempted murder under the law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_killing

I agree.
I'm just biased against hunting. I find it an extremely cruel sport.

30   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2014 Jul 18, 5:54am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

There's this look cats will give you when you're talking or laughing about them in a good way. It's one of jovial in expression with squint eyes and a gaping smile. Then there's this other shameful agitated look, that they will give as they walk away a peer over their shoulder, after you talk ill about them or laughing at them in a bad way.

31   New Renter   ignore (11)   2014 Jul 18, 5:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

New Renter says

Strategist says

Your brother in law is a cold blooded killer.

Why? Does buying meat from the grocery store somehow completely absolve someone of the killing process? If someone hires a hitman to kill they are considered just as guilty of murder/attempted murder under the law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_killing

I agree.

I'm just biased against hunting. I find it an extremely cruel sport.

My BIL took up hunting because the boar are a real problem in our area. They are aggressive, destructive and breed like mad:

http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/12/06/34980/california-farmers-call-in-wild-boar-hunters-to-co/

32   turtledove   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 18, 6:16am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Okay, last one, I promise. When Sammy (my dog) was about 3, I found the most pitiful little creature abandoned under a bush. This kitten was estimated to be 7 days old. He hadn't even opened his eyes, yet. When he did, I was the first thing he saw. I raised him, and I was lucky that he thrived. My mother stole him from me when he was two (her cat had just died).

His first days were spent living inside my shirt. He had to be fed with an eye dropper... and I learned that kittens that little can't even go to the bathroom on their own. Apparently, they depend on their moms to stimulate the area for the waste to come out. So, if you ever find yourself in this situation, you have to rub them down with a warm, wet washcloth or they will NOT go to the bathroom.

This is a picture of Sammy with the new kitten (the first he had ever seen). I was nervous because I didn't know what he would do. I'm happy to say, he was the perfect little gentleman.

A: Excuse me. What are you?
B: Is he tasting him? Whew, it was just a little kiss.

I will stop now. I fear that my insanity is now showing.

I will spare you all my crazy dolphin dream.

34   Strategist   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 18, 10:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

A: Excuse me. What are you?

B: Is he tasting him? Whew, it was just a little kiss.

I will stop now. I fear that my insanity is now showing.

I will spare you all my crazy dolphin dream.

Kitty...."Are you my mommy?"
Sammy.."Look closely kid, do I look like I'm your mommy?"


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