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What is up with the rash of trashy posts lately?

By edvard2 follow edvard2   2014 Jul 28, 1:42am 46,483 views   171 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


I edited this post's original structure because this isn't a right/left thing. Rather its about the fact that an awful lot of nasty posts that are either racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic have been popping up on this site. The bottom line is perhaps some of those people who feel compelled to post such garbage should keep it to themselves versus polluting the internet with their mindless BS. That sort of garbage doesn't belong anywhere.

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121   dublin hillz   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 29, 9:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Peter P says

dublin hillz says



Peter P says



In a perfect world all leaves (sick, vacation, maternity, paternity) would be


unpaid.



In a perfect world for walmart cult?


It is only fair. People should be taking a lot more vacation than the 2-4 weeks per year they are "earning."

Seems to me like a lot of small biz owners in united states are afraid to take vacation precisely since they cannot make any money when they close up shop.

122   CL   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 29, 9:34am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

mell says

I cannot speak for every area and sector in the US, but Occam's razor would dictate to be skeptical of claims of pay gaps.

See? I don't think it does. If I create a new position, and get approval for 50-65K to start what factors do I use to assign value to that employee? Resume, sure. Experience, sure. But Occam's razor would say that the shortest path is likely the most accurate, right?

So, isn't it a bit more esoteric than that? The candidate "feels" right? "Seems like a great fit"? "Has the right attitude?".

Consciously or not, humans grant deference to certain people, except through mental effort. It's the same reason that white male Christians disproportionately hold the levers of power, in the Congress and all elected offices, as well as Executive positions on corporations.

If there is a disturbance, and there are 2 middle age white men and 2 black youths, who will get investigated first? Is justice blind? If not, what is different about a hiring scenario?

Whether it be by 5k or 15K, the women will, over time, get the short end of the stick. I've seen married males get bumps in salary, and single males get none or less. Unless the salaries are publicly available, there is little way to know until a grievance is filed, ala Ledbetter. Or via surveys, but a skeptic will write those off.

123   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2014 Jul 29, 10:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Slavery isn't very efficient.

Peter P says

FortWayne says

Peter P says

In a perfect world all leaves (sick, vacation, maternity, paternity) would be unpaid.

Prospective parents need to fully comprehend the costs before they skip the condom.

What is your definition of "perfect"?

Maximum economic efficiency.

124   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2014 Jul 30, 1:04am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

edvard2 says

super right wing' = irrational, xenophobic, and out of touch with modern society.

Was it irrational to be displeased by a law that was passed with out reading it?
Was it irrational to be concerned that wide open boarders would lead to Mexican gangs and cartels gaining a greater foothold on America and would flood depressed workers to further strain our Employment numbers?

We're not out of touch with Modern society, we're just not Allowing the confused and morally bankrupt left define "Modern Society"!

125   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 30, 1:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You say trashy posts like it's a bad thing!

126   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 30, 2:32am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

This is Damning Evidence.
All Damning Evidence....
CaptainShuddup says

Was it irrational to be displeased by a law that was passed with out reading it?

Was it irrational to be concerned that wide open boarders would lead to Mexican gangs and cartels gaining a greater foothold on America and would flood depressed workers to further strain our Employment numbers?

127   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2014 Jul 30, 2:39am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

CaptainShuddup says

Was it irrational to be concerned that wide open boarders would lead to Mexican gangs and cartels gaining a greater foothold on America and would flood depressed workers to further strain our Employment numbers?

Bleeding heart liberals are a confused bunch. They think it's ok to bring millions of poor to lower wages across the border, yet they complain about outsourcing. But say something about closing borders, and they call you racist.

It's as if they only use half the brain and only figured half the equation of wage slavery. It doesn't dawn on them that desperate poor they want to bring will always accept a shittier station in life just to have a job, which will reduce wages and benefits for all Americans.

Just wait till edward or his liberal friends have to compete with a million of Juan's and Jose's from across the border for a job, he'll change his tune on illegal immigration pretty darn fast.

128   marcus   ignore (12)   2014 Jul 30, 3:40am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says

Bleeding heart liberals are a confused bunch. They think it's ok to bring millions of poor to lower wages across the border, yet they complain about outsourcing. But say something about closing borders, and they call you racist.

And the straw man award of the year award goes to...

If I was going to write a comeback he could understand, it would be about gullible morons and not about right wingers.

"Darrrrr, guhuh... I know what let's do. Let's blame it on the liberals."

The propaganda works so well on a certain gullible and ignorant segment of the population.

FortWayne says

he'll change his tune on illegal immigration pretty darn fast.

Obama has been tougher on border security than any other President. He basically doubled it.

As for allowing illegals to stay ? Even most right wingers understand you aren't going to deport all those people.

129   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2014 Jul 30, 4:03am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

How come Fortwayne got through saying what he had to say with out sounding like a sbh and Rush love affair?

130   CL   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 30, 4:11am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says

It doesn't dawn on them that desperate poor they want to bring will always accept a shittier station in life just to have a job, which will reduce wages and benefits for all Americans.

But those immigrants are also consumers, and the stuff they consume is being sold by Americans in America. Where does money we send abroad go?

We have a problem in supply v. demand. and it's not on the supply side. Importing consumers is not the same as exporting jobs.

131   marcus   ignore (12)   2014 Jul 30, 4:20am     ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

sbh says

He'd be OK with importing them if they were actually "natural conservatives"

Many of them are Catholic. That is conservative in a way, for example with respect to "family values." I think you mean natural right wingers, which is impossible for a minority immigrant group.

132   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2014 Jul 30, 6:26am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says

a confused bunch. They think it's ok to bring millions of poor to lower wages across the border, yet they complain about outsourcing

A ridiculous straw man. You are projecting your own confusion which is the intended result of concerted oligarchic investments in 24/7 media. --your mind is a product.

Businesses hire whoever WITH IMPUNITY, if anything at all happens, the fucking JUSTICE system gets to thrive from playing cat and mouse with the lives of the desperate and vulnerable. --In the name of righteousness too!

REALITY: There's nothing on this earth that can be done to eliminate immigration legal or not as long as there are some jobs here and none there. But that isn't even true any more concerning Mexico.

Why are you even thinking about immigration? OMG you're carrying on a skit with another dolt I already have on ignore.

133   CL   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 31, 8:01am     ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

sbh says

They are conservative in other ways as well.

Some of that is hype, drummed up by the right. The majority of Catholics support birth control, despite the hierarchy. Latinos are no exception, and support gay marriage as well.

They make the (false) assumption that, Catholicism is conservative, Mexico is a "Catholic" country, therefore Mexican immigrants are naturally conservative. I needn't remind you that a combination of Catholicism and Latin America is also the foundation for liberation theology, which has been deemed "Marxist" by many conservatives.

It's filled with untruths and logical fallacies.

So, ultimately, it is simply a thinly veiled attempt to define Latinos for themselves, to give them a framework to eventually vote Republican. It's a racist one at that, because if demographics don't reveal what conservatives WANT them to reveal, then it's back to the brown heap they go. They are no longer useful to the right.

134   marcus   ignore (12)   2014 Jul 31, 8:18am     ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

CL says

They make the (false) assumption that, Catholicism is conservative, Mexico is a "Catholic" country, therefore Mexican immigrants are naturally conservative.

When I say conservative (above) I don't mean right wing.

I meant conservative more like Eisenhower conservative. Pro family values, strong work ethic and so on. I wasn't suggesting they will ever vote republican. Tha't for scared white folks and the whole "fuck you I've got mine" crowd.

135   komputodo   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 31, 8:25am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

sbh says

They are conservative in other ways as well. But the wetback beaners just don't seem to vote right, do they, and in the end that's what matters to the real americans who are naturally terrified of dark people.

In america, I was taught that all dark people are shiftless and criminals and rape white women.

136   mmmarvel   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 31, 8:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Peter P says

People should be taking a lot more vacation than the 2-4 weeks per year they are "earning."

If you want that then don't take a job that doesn't offer it. When you accept a job you accept the job. It's not like - "Okay, you're hired, BUT, we're not going to tell you how much we're going to pay, you'll find out on pay day. You don't know how much vacation you get, but ask for some time off for a vacation and we'll tell you if you've got enough time." Look, you don't like the job for WHATEVER reason, then don't accept it. I've quit jobs for better pay elsewhere or better benefits elsewhere or because I thought I wasn't being treated well.

137   komputodo   ignore (2)   2014 Jul 31, 8:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

sbh says

They are conservative in other ways as well. But the wetback beaners just don't seem to vote right, do they, and in the end that's what matters to the real americans who are naturally terrified of dark people.

The "wetback beaners" would vote for whomever if they felt they had a good shot at a green card.
OTOH, latinos born in the USA have no interest in legalizing illegal mexicans. It's just human nature.

138   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2014 Jul 31, 8:40am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

StupidBiggotHonkey says

They are conservative in other ways as well. But the wetback beaners just don't seem to vote right, do they, and in the end that's what matters to the real americans who are naturally terrified of dark people.

139   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 31, 8:53am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

It's blatant racism...but what else would you expect from the rabid left?

CaptainShuddup says

StupidBiggotHonkey says

They are conservative in other ways as well. But the wetback beaners just don't seem to vote right, do they, and in the end that's what matters to the real americans who are naturally terrified of dark people.

140   Peter P   ignore (0)   2014 Jul 31, 9:12am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mmmarvel says

Peter P says

People should be taking a lot more vacation than the 2-4 weeks per year they are "earning."

If you want that then don't take a job that doesn't offer it. When you accept a job you accept the job. It's not like - "Okay, you're hired, BUT, we're not going to tell you how much we're going to pay, you'll find out on pay day. You don't know how much vacation you get, but ask for some time off for a vacation and we'll tell you if you've got enough time." Look, you don't like the job for WHATEVER reason, then don't accept it. I've quit jobs for better pay elsewhere or better benefits elsewhere or because I thought I wasn't being treated well.

True, but putting a price on everything promotes communication. It will be good very everyone.

The very idea of a "job" is corrupting on the human spirit. It really should be pure commerce.

141   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2014 Jul 31, 11:37am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

marcus says

conservative more like Eisenhower conservative

Before conservative became a DSM IV diagnosis.

142   NoCoupForYou   ignore (6)   2014 Jul 31, 11:45am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CL says

. The majority of Catholics support birth control, despite the hierarchy. Latinos are no exception, and support gay marriage as well.

HUGE differences between Latinos. It's like saying Hungarian Rednecks and Paris Night Club Owners share similar views about Homosexuality.

Cubans (inc. Cuban-Americans) are generally down with Abortion. "Private Abortion Providers" feature in after page of these 1/8th ads in the local ad rags, about as many as the Divorce Lawyers.

Mexico City only legalized abortion for the 1st Trimester a few years ago, it remains totally illegal throughout most of Mexico. Gay Rights is also hotly debated and marriage illegal in most of Mexico (where Marriage is entirely Civil after a violent struggle against Superstition).

143   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (7)   2014 Jul 31, 7:49pm     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

marcus says

CL says

They make the (false) assumption that, Catholicism is conservative, Mexico is a "Catholic" country, therefore Mexican immigrants are naturally conservative.

When I say conservative (above) I don't mean right wing.

I meant conservative more like Eisenhower conservative. Pro family values, strong work ethic and so on. I wasn't suggesting they will ever vote republican. Tha't for scared white folks and the whole "fuck you I've got mine" crowd.

But you're not racist, right? RIGHT?

I'll tell ya something, and even though you have me on ignore I suspect you'll wind up reading it.

1.) you are incapable of judging people on their character and actions. More than any other poster on pat.net you love to place people into boxes, label it, and toss you're own bias and prejudices in there. You define racist.

2.) you had better hope you don't lose it like Ribas did and let out too much personal information. Secretly holding looney beliefs seems to have a way of biting teachers in the ass.

144   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2014 Jul 31, 10:05pm     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

somehow I suspect he's looking forward to this....

dodgerfanjohn says

Secretly holding looney beliefs seems to have a way of biting teachers in the ass.

145   John Bailo   ignore (2)   2014 Aug 1, 1:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

And why is that some of the worst category of these come from Patrick himself? Hasn't he made enough money off this site by now. Did he ever get his tech job back? Can he finally afford a house in Palo Alto?

Does he drunk post in the wee hours while hitting the bottle? Or did someone in China buy him out and is using algorithms to post the subjects which will troll the most?

146   komputodo   ignore (2)   2014 Aug 1, 1:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dodgerfanjohn says

But you're not racist, right? RIGHT?

I guess it all depends on how you define RACIST. If you are a business owner and would hire or fire a black person based on his performance, then you aren't a racist. If you saw an injured black person on the street and went to his aid, you are not a racist.
All the other stuff is all BS.

147   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2014 Aug 1, 2:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I bet if the Left did more to celebrate the multiculturalism that this country has to offer. There would be far less problems.

I mean ALL cultures and races, not just Cherry picking Muslims, Gays and financially depressed Blacks, just to give the Right a mental wedgie.

148   komputodo   ignore (2)   2014 Aug 1, 2:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CaptainShuddup says

I bet if the Left did more to celebrate the multiculturalism that this country has to offer. There would be far less problems.

I mean ALL cultures and races, not just Cherry picking Muslims, Gays and financially depressed Blacks, just to give the Right a mental wedgie.

Pols have to test which way the wind blows before they support anything. That way they get more bang for the buck. Which is why they won't waste their time supporting Czechoslovakian illegals.

149   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2014 Aug 1, 2:24am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

jazz music says

Businesses hire whoever WITH IMPUNITY, if anything at all happens, the fucking JUSTICE system gets to thrive from playing cat and mouse with the lives of the desperate and vulnerable. --In the name of righteousness too!

If left wasn't so hell bent on bringing those "desperate and vulnerable" here enmasses, they wouldn't have an option to hire so many of them.

It's simple supply and demand. Liberals bring in millions of cheap/free labor, it drops wages and benefits. And it raises taxes on middle class, since the costs are pushed off onto the taxpayers to support that underpaid welfare system.

You people just are too blinded by liberal ideology to see the destructiveness of your ways.

150   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2014 Aug 1, 2:37am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

It's a little deeper and more indirect....
The real truth is that the left wants open borders so drug importation is easier and less costly to the lefty end user.
The kids swarming the border are just a smokescreen to redivert attention away from the dopists.

FortWayne says

If left wasn't so hell bent on bringing those "desperate and vulnerable" here enmasses, they wouldn't have an option to hire so many of them.

It's simple supply and demand. Liberals bring in millions of cheap/free labor, it drops wages and benefits.

151   CL   ignore (0)   2014 Aug 1, 3:41am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

thunderlips11 says

CL says

. The majority of Catholics support birth control, despite the hierarchy. Latinos are no exception, and support gay marriage as well.

HUGE differences between Latinos. It's like saying Hungarian Rednecks and Paris Night Club Owners share similar views about Homosexuality.

Cubans (inc. Cuban-Americans) are generally down with Abortion. "Private Abortion Providers" feature in after page of these 1/8th ads in the local ad rags, about as many as the Divorce Lawyers.

Mexico City only legalized abortion for the 1st Trimester a few years ago, it remains totally illegal throughout most of Mexico. Gay Rights is also hotly debated and marriage illegal in most of Mexico (where Marriage is entirely Civil after a violent struggle against Superstition).

Well, don't confuse policy with the people. If that were the case, most Americans feel differently than our leadership on nearly every important issue facing us, whether it be social or NSA privacy issues. Are we all homophobic, immigrant-bashing redneck cowboys?

The trend in the Latino population is toward liberalism.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/latinos-endorse-legal-abortion/

Exit polls: "Big majorities of Latinos across the country and other voters agreed that abortion should be legal, including nearly equal shares of men and women, according to exit polling."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/majority-of-latinos-support-state-recognition-of-gay-marriage/

"Hispanic voters were more likely than other voters to say they would approve if their state recognized same-sex marriage, according to preliminary exit poll results.

Nearly six-in-ten Latino voters (59%) said their state should legally recognize same-sex marriage while 32% said their state should not. But among all voters, about half (48%) favored legalization of gay marriage while nearly the same share said they would oppose it (47%).

Non-Hispanic whites were the most opposed to states legally sanctioning same-sex marriage (47% favored but 50% were opposed). Among blacks, half (52%) would support while 40% opposed state support for gay unions."

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/06/24/after-decades-of-gop-support-cubans-shifting-toward-the-democratic-party/

Even Cuban support for the GOP has been utterly destroyed, which I didn't anticipate would happen in my lifetime.

And Puerto Ricans migrating to Florida is another reason that state has effectively turned blue.

http://nbclatino.com/2012/11/07/analysis-puerto-ricans-turned-florida-blue/

http://prospect.org/article/central-floridas-corridor-power

The GOP had better wake up or the nativists will destroy the last semblance of a viable political party. There is very little room for minorities in the GOP, and it gets smaller every day. Will immigration efforts help or hurt them?

komputodo says

OTOH, latinos born in the USA have no interest in legalizing illegal mexicans.

I disagree here too. Some of these family members, born here, have relatives in Latin America. And they aren't stupid enough to not see the racism directed at them by the party, with their cantaloupe calves and anti-brown measures.

Explain to a Mexican why Canada doesn't need a wall, despite being the longest unprotected border in the world. Explain to a Mexican why we don't stop Minnesotans on the street and ask them to prove they aren't Canadians.

They are painfully aware of the scapegoating that is occurring. It might already be too late for the party of Lincoln.

152   NoCoupForYou   ignore (6)   2014 Aug 1, 3:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CL says

The trend in the Latino population is toward liberalism.

Yes, this is true.

CL says

Even Cuban support for the GOP has been utterly destroyed, which I didn't anticipate would happen in my lifetime.

Also true. There is now a strong voice among Cubans to remove all the travel restrictions to Cuba.CL says

The GOP had better wake up or the nativists will destroy the last semblance of a viable political party. There is very little room for minorities in the GOP, and it gets smaller every day. Will immigration efforts help or hurt them?

Agree, there is nothing left for the GOP in 20 years, unless they radically change.

However, Liberals need to be aware that immigration is at 1920, all time high levels, in a weak job market with high rents, and that there are plenty of unemployed blacks and rural whites that need to be employed also. Not to mention the oversized military and the school-to-prison complex which, if ended, would also result in a greatly expanded labor supply.

We would also need to end the corn dumping and drug wars that have made life unbearable in Central America.

I'm opposed to our current high levels of immigration because it creates a large reserve army of labor that depresses wages. Wages build up, not trickle down, so without upward wage pressure for the unskilled, it's likely that workers will continue to be underpaid and overworked.

153   marcus   ignore (12)   2014 Aug 1, 3:53am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says

Liberals bring in millions of cheap/free labor, it drops wages and benefits.

This is the kind of silly nonsense that labels you a right wing retard.

How is it that liberals bring immigrants in ?

OBama has beefed up border security more than any other President. It's true that he's not a liberal per se, but then you don't know that.

154   marcus   ignore (12)   2014 Aug 1, 4:03am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

CaptainShuddup says

I bet if the Left did more to celebrate the multiculturalism that this country has to offer. There would be far less problems.

Funny. As if they don't.

You don't even know it when you're showing your racism.

In your fantasy of how you want readers to think of you, how does the reasoning go ? A black caucus exists in congress, therefore the "left" (today that means nothing more than not extreme right), doesn't celebrate the multicultural make up of the country ?

Funny, when I hear those arguments in Arizona against latino studies, I thought that was from the right ?

I thought that when I received notice from my school district that they want me to take a couple more hours of "multicutural coursework" before I can go any further up the pay scale, that that sounded like something most would attribute to "liberals."

This is one of your more pathetic attempts to gain the higher moral ground for your point of view or that of the right wing. Of coure making shit up and lying about easy to verify facts is the hallmark of today's right winger.

So, keep up the good work !

155   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2014 Aug 1, 4:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says

OBama has beefed up border security more than any other President. It's true that he's not a liberal per se, but then you don't know that.

Really? How did he beef it up? He was against building the fence, he isn't doing anything about children and immigrants swarming. Future cheap labor of America.

156   marcus   ignore (12)   2014 Aug 1, 4:42am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says

Really? How did he beef it up?

Look it up.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/01/debbie-wasserman-schultz/more-border-security-and-patrols-under-obama-previ/

This is obviously biased (whitehouse link), but it gives you an idea of the fact that it's actually a priority or the current admin.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/immigration/border-security

157   marcus   ignore (12)   2014 Aug 1, 5:07am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

I didn't post it because it was Wasserman. I posted it because it was a politifact analysis of what she said.

Don't read it. What ever you do, don't bother checking to see whether the lies you believe are true.

You must be so proud of having a world view that is so fact free and lie filled.

158   CL   ignore (0)   2014 Aug 1, 5:19am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

thunderlips11 says

I'm opposed to our current high levels of immigration because it creates a large reserve army of labor that depresses wages. Wages build up, not trickle down, so without upward wage pressure for the unskilled, it's likely that workers will continue to be underpaid and overworked.

I agree it's a concern, but what do you think about, for example, the idea that there is a tremendous new glut of labor and money from China and India that have come online like never before. (I picked up the "Age of Oversupply" recently. Seems to be a decent book).

Is it really immigrants that we need to be concerned with? Witness Hazelton: immigrants left town and with them departed a big chunk of their elderly economy.

Documented and undocumented immigrants to America consume in America. They are often youthful, and pay into Social Security and Medicare, etc. Undocumenteds sell food at food trucks to undocumenteds who work at the construction site. Remove them and you may remove the only economic activity in town!

And the best thing is, when they are no longer needed, they simply self-deport! :)

159   jazz_music   ignore (14)   2014 Aug 1, 7:36am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Here's the thing.

You folks condemning liberals all the time are only working against yourselves: Actually celebrating your own fall. you've been manipulated to do that against yourselves with popular folklore lies by a-holes like Reagan with his famous welfare-queen story.

NOW HEAR THIS!!! THE RICH GOT THE MONEY!!!!! Okay? It's really that simple!!!!

I get that right-wing loyalists don't have unlimited time to ferret out good journalism content for actual news and current events. You are hard working people just like us. But you set yourself up for ridicule when you take the lazy way listening to cheesy talk radio bullies on your commute and then talk to cohorts if you are better informed from having shared that experience. You expect to feel high and mighty, maybe eek out some prestige by sympathizing with views and vexations of those holding vast wealth. Hmm, WOW.

Well it's double lazy (and "uncle Tom" of you) because you regurgitate the point of view held by your employers/superiors/customers meekly begging their favor. Even more repugnant again that you take the anti-intellectual approach in favor of the "cheap red meat" beckoning to you daily on TV and embraced by others willfully ignorant and of course also looking for the easy way to get by.

THIS SHIT MATTERS OKAY? PEOPLE ARE DIEING!!!!

Yes, natural people do matter. Corporation people are a Reagan-stocked Supreme Court scam.

Inevitably parroting the popular lies you get corrected by someone who actually ACTUALLY INVESTS their TIME to search out some truth and so you double down and claim that all the rest of the reports--that didn't come from Fox--are just as bad as Fox except they're lefty liberal commie trash thereby strenuously insulating yourself and cohorts from truth.

Such is a vicious cycle: y'all become more ignorant of facts with each passing day, more and more owned by those who seek to neutralize our voices to protect their wealthy superiors.

You're not stupid: you actually DO REALIZE that a cadre of wealthy families hostile to 99% are investing unimaginable budgets to make us think a certain way, for a reason, but you reject that there is anything wrong with that "free speech"--when really it's not news at all, they just make shit up and keep glorifying it everywhere all the time, all coordinated to make it feel inevitably so BECAUSE IT NULLIFIES YOU AGAINT YOUR INTERESTS as it beckons you to sleep. Be afraid of anything different!

That shit-info is CIA-developed PSYOPS a potent weapon paid for by us tax-payers, they know how to conduct it, they hold their secret meetings with the likes of Roger Ailes to coordinate the flow of this shit daily with GOP's talking points. 35+ years and the angry bastards STILL insist that TRICKLE DOWN works. Trickle down is the name of their war horse on America and it's why we get the worst of everything while we make 30+ year leaps and bounds in productivity and cost cutting too. They get you to feel like they are cool by using slick graphic bumper animations, glib commentators in nice suits, and glamorous blonde talking heads. The flow is mildly entertaining, weather, sports, human interest, then it pushes your buttons every day with the real payload, a sense of righteous indignation for you to share with others.

BUT THE POOR DIDN'T FUCK YOU UP. IT'S THE RICH!!!!!! GOT THAT?????

They bail out their businesses and use our hard earned tax money against us in so many ways it would make this post too long to read. The money is GONE and into vaults. The POOR DIDN'T TAKE IT. WAKE UP!!! GOP makes no apologies for benefitting the wealthy. 35+ years and they are still preaching supply-side economics. (tinkle down)

You all end up high-fiving each other with your Facebooks and forwarded e-mail cartoons about liberal wars on Christmas, liberals gun-taking, black coddling liberals, welfare, public assistance, immigration, abortion, marriage equality, flag-fawning, war-loving in the name of FREEDOM. That's all called dog-whistle politics, it's a cheap but effective way to silence opposition. Also narrowly framed comment-features that are supposed to look like a debate. IT'S NOT A DEBATE OKAY???? IT'S A SHAM!!!!

In the information age one must cherish and nurture ones ignorance every day to hold on to it. Our fall is just beginning. It's not the poor that are killing us, it really is the rich. Okay you really need to see that this great wealth they have has come out of the commonwealth that once was more empowered to experience life beyond the banal struggle to survive.

Health is NOW for the rich, same with peace, justice, college, housing, retirement, vacation, art, culture, every sublime luxury. We bless them with our silence. For the rest of us there is a time of full employment characterized by the franchise to conspicuously consume, followed by layoff, descent into abject poverty, endless boogeyman-wars to go off and die for, endless slippery slopes that lead you into poverty ahead of old age, early death with lack of crucial healthcare, oppressive enforcement, prison labor, capital punishment.

I love you folks but you are too easy!

160   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2014 Aug 1, 8:15am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

jazz music says

They bail out their businesses and use our hard earned tax money against us in so many ways it would make this post too long to read. The money is GONE and into vaults. The POOR DIDN'T TAKE IT. WAKE UP!!! GOP makes no apologies for benefitting the wealthy. 35+ years and they are still preaching supply-side economics. (tinkle down)

I disagree, because I think you are not being fair to both sides.

I don't think the tax system is fair, and I don't know a single person who thinks that it is. Poor will always want more handouts, and everyone else will always want to pay less in taxes. Romney paying a lower rate than I while complaining about his high taxes is just as bullshit as a renter not paying property taxes while complaining about prop 13. It is what it is.

And it's no secret that politicians are beholden to special interests. And the only special interest that has no voice is the middle class. But I don't think there is much difference between Republicans and Democrats. At the end they all want to take something from us, and the only day they stop taking from us is when we are all dead and no longer care.

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