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The science of sex: 4 harsh truths about dating and mating
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HeadSet
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2026 Mar 4, 8:24am
HeadSet
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2026 Mar 4, 8:24am
clambo says
Was that a good idea? With missing teeth, she may give a better BJ.
I recently paid $500 USD for a girl here in La Paz to fix some problems which were caused by her avoiding the dentist also.
Was that a good idea? With missing teeth, she may give a better BJ.
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stereotomy
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2026 Mar 4, 3:47pm
stereotomy
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2026 Mar 4, 3:47pm
clambo says
I've been mocked on this site before for recommending this, but it is worth it. It's a dental gel that disrupts bacterial biofilms (aka plaque) and completely cures (in my experience) gingivitis. Using this gel, along with giving up sugar and most carbs, will keep your teeth and gums healthy brushing only 5X a week:
https://getlivfresh.com/
Gift your grifting paramours a few tubes of this as "anniversary" gifts.
Full disclosure: I found out about this stuff from some guy with the handle Rajiv back in the iTulip (RIP) days. Been using it almost 20 years - no cavities, gums just peachy, still have my original almost 50 year old fillings. My gums are so healthy the hygienists mistake them for inflamed (since there is absolutely no gum recession which is unbelievable in a middle-aged mouth) and crucify me every cleaning. Last gum pocket measurements were pretty much all 1s and 2s.
This is no flossing, brushing 5X a week at best, for 20 years.
I 100% agree with Stereotomy and she also agreed that's the last dumb request (until the next one).
The missing kidney or kidnap scenario is less of a concern for me than "biting the biscuit" and falling head over heels over some young pretty thing.
Therefore the search for new "strange" must continue; keep swimming like the sharks who can't stop or they'll drown.
Pet peeve for dating "desperate" girls; all of them have dental issues because they never go every 6 months for a cleaning; yesterday one called me from Florida to complain about her root canal and expense, etc.
I recently paid $500 USD for a girl here in La Paz to fix some problems which were caused by her avoiding the dentist also.
I've been mocked on this site before for recommending this, but it is worth it. It's a dental gel that disrupts bacterial biofilms (aka plaque) and completely cures (in my experience) gingivitis. Using this gel, along with giving up sugar and most carbs, will keep your teeth and gums healthy brushing only 5X a week:
https://getlivfresh.com/
Gift your grifting paramours a few tubes of this as "anniversary" gifts.
Full disclosure: I found out about this stuff from some guy with the handle Rajiv back in the iTulip (RIP) days. Been using it almost 20 years - no cavities, gums just peachy, still have my original almost 50 year old fillings. My gums are so healthy the hygienists mistake them for inflamed (since there is absolutely no gum recession which is unbelievable in a middle-aged mouth) and crucify me every cleaning. Last gum pocket measurements were pretty much all 1s and 2s.
This is no flossing, brushing 5X a week at best, for 20 years.
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Blue
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2026 Mar 4, 6:50pm
MolotovCocktail says
Sounded like there are bots creating blogs.
Once I was in a tough situation to rescue an animal.
Glad things worked out well finally :)
To my surprise, there was blog on Reddit with my pictures that I shared on different platform with almost same messages within few days!
That must be very likely a spider bot account on Reddit.
Booger says
If it was on Reddit, it must be true.
Sounded like there are bots creating blogs.
Once I was in a tough situation to rescue an animal.
Glad things worked out well finally :)
To my surprise, there was blog on Reddit with my pictures that I shared on different platform with almost same messages within few days!
That must be very likely a spider bot account on Reddit.
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stereotomy
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2026 Mar 4, 8:03pm
stereotomy
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2026 Mar 4, 8:03pm
I guess then that only stories shared on PatNet can be bot-free.
"Close your eyes, enter your cave, now walk through your cave and find your power animal . . . "
"I have pornos, lubricants, amyl nitrate . . "
"Close your eyes, enter your cave, now walk through your cave and find your power animal . . . "
"I have pornos, lubricants, amyl nitrate . . "
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clambo
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2026 Mar 5, 10:22pm
The entire premise of the fake video is so annoying.
Does the loser simp dude think that a McDonald's meal is an actual expense to 1. impress a girl 2. get angry about?
He's a broke ass clown, if you assume this is actually real, which it is definitely is not.
Tip: If you want to get a girl to notice you say "hello". If she smiles back, she may talk to you.
99% of the time she won't and doesn't want to because most of the hot girls have guys on strings.
Does the loser simp dude think that a McDonald's meal is an actual expense to 1. impress a girl 2. get angry about?
He's a broke ass clown, if you assume this is actually real, which it is definitely is not.
Tip: If you want to get a girl to notice you say "hello". If she smiles back, she may talk to you.
99% of the time she won't and doesn't want to because most of the hot girls have guys on strings.
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GNL
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2026 Mar 6, 6:57am
GNL
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2026 Mar 6, 6:57am
The #1 way to get chicks has to do with 3 things.
When you're in High School: Popularity. Looks plays a big part in this. If you are lucky enough to be this, tear it up. Do not get tied down. Play the girls off of each other. Get laid.
When you're in college: Pretty much the same.
After college: Get women to chase you by working your ass off to be someone or create something.
This is what worked for me although, I wasn't aware of it. Girls have always been the aggressor with me. I do think it would have been better the other way around though.
When you're in High School: Popularity. Looks plays a big part in this. If you are lucky enough to be this, tear it up. Do not get tied down. Play the girls off of each other. Get laid.
When you're in college: Pretty much the same.
After college: Get women to chase you by working your ass off to be someone or create something.
This is what worked for me although, I wasn't aware of it. Girls have always been the aggressor with me. I do think it would have been better the other way around though.
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clambo
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2026 Mar 6, 7:41am
#2 Have blue eyes in a country where they're uncommon.
I have heard several times how fascinating my blue eyes are, I almost laugh but I bite my tongue.
About 10 years ago a girl I had lunch with was taking pictures of them.
Afterwards I said "I'm surprised you want to go out with me; I am old enough to be your grandfather."
She: "Oh, no, my grandfather is older than you!"
I have heard several times how fascinating my blue eyes are, I almost laugh but I bite my tongue.
About 10 years ago a girl I had lunch with was taking pictures of them.
Afterwards I said "I'm surprised you want to go out with me; I am old enough to be your grandfather."
She: "Oh, no, my grandfather is older than you!"
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GNL
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2026 Mar 6, 7:45am
GNL
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2026 Mar 6, 7:45am
clambo says
This is something I left out but I think is true - it takes time to be someone or build something. This means you will be older. In this case, go for a woman who is younger than you. Even 10 years younger. But you're going to have to manage her imo. Do not let her take any control of any of your money. Actually love her and she will be around to take care of you in your old age.
Also, don't go for the "Hot Girl" either. You should have done that in High School and College. Too much trouble and she has too many options. Go for the girl who is slightly better looking than you. Slightly. IMO.
IMO, this is the way.
#2 Have blue eyes in a country where they're uncommon.
I have heard several times how fascinating my blue eyes are, I almost laugh but I bite my tongue.
About 10 years ago a girl I had lunch with was taking pictures of them.
Afterwards I said "I'm surprised you want to go out with me; I am old enough to be your grandfather."
She: "Oh, no, my grandfather is older than you!"
This is something I left out but I think is true - it takes time to be someone or build something. This means you will be older. In this case, go for a woman who is younger than you. Even 10 years younger. But you're going to have to manage her imo. Do not let her take any control of any of your money. Actually love her and she will be around to take care of you in your old age.
Also, don't go for the "Hot Girl" either. You should have done that in High School and College. Too much trouble and she has too many options. Go for the girl who is slightly better looking than you. Slightly. IMO.
IMO, this is the way.
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clambo
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2026 Mar 6, 8:13am
There was a song on the radio in the 60's about not choosing a beautiful female.
Jimmy Soul "If you wanna be happy."
"If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view, get an ugly girl to marry you."
Jimmy Soul "If you wanna be happy."
"If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view, get an ugly girl to marry you."
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floki
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2026 Mar 6, 8:42am
clambo says
LOL clambo.... haha we may not be as "gifted" as you damn.... just my luck!
#2 Have blue eyes in a country where they're uncommon.
I have heard several times how fascinating my blue eyes are, I almost laugh but I bite my tongue.
About 10 years ago a girl I had lunch with was taking pictures of them.
Afterwards I said "I'm surprised you want to go out with me; I am old enough to be your grandfather."
She: "Oh, no, my grandfather is older than you!"
LOL clambo.... haha we may not be as "gifted" as you damn.... just my luck!
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GNL
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2026 Mar 6, 10:00am
GNL
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2026 Mar 6, 10:00am
clambo says
I had a friend when I was still running around like a wild man and I remember him introducing me to his new girlfriend. She was NOT good looking. Also, slightly overweight (I never went for overweight girls.). He told me this is the one. The guy told another friend of mine that he purposely chose her because she wasn't hot. I had never heard that before and thought...what a strange thing to say. I kinda get it though.
There was a song on the radio in the 60's about not choosing a beautiful female.
Jimmy Soul "If you wanna be happy."
"If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view, get an ugly girl to marry you."
I had a friend when I was still running around like a wild man and I remember him introducing me to his new girlfriend. She was NOT good looking. Also, slightly overweight (I never went for overweight girls.). He told me this is the one. The guy told another friend of mine that he purposely chose her because she wasn't hot. I had never heard that before and thought...what a strange thing to say. I kinda get it though.
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Patrick
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2026 Mar 6, 1:06pm
Patrick
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2026 Mar 6, 1:06pm
clambo says
That works in America too, with darker women. I usually dated petite women with brown eyes and black hair, of some Mediterranean origin, but later found out that they all liked tall blond guys like me. That's something I had not considered at first. I thought it was just me going after them and not the reverse. There is a distinct dating benefit to being a very white-looking guy. Jealousy of this benefit might account for some of the recent hostility toward white people.
My ideal was the young Marissa Tomei, which I understand not everyone is into:
I was amused when my brother-in-law, on first meeting my wife, told me "She looks like Marissa Tomei." Maybe he was just being nice. Not saying my wife was movie star material, but could totally have been Marissa's sister.
Have blue eyes in a country where they're uncommon.
That works in America too, with darker women. I usually dated petite women with brown eyes and black hair, of some Mediterranean origin, but later found out that they all liked tall blond guys like me. That's something I had not considered at first. I thought it was just me going after them and not the reverse. There is a distinct dating benefit to being a very white-looking guy. Jealousy of this benefit might account for some of the recent hostility toward white people.
My ideal was the young Marissa Tomei, which I understand not everyone is into:
I was amused when my brother-in-law, on first meeting my wife, told me "She looks like Marissa Tomei." Maybe he was just being nice. Not saying my wife was movie star material, but could totally have been Marissa's sister.
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stereotomy
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2026 Mar 6, 4:02pm
stereotomy
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2026 Mar 6, 4:02pm
Patrick says
I figured out that certain women dug me because I vaguely resembled John Lennon, especially because I'd wear the round tortoise shell eyeglasses. I recently rewatched the (excellent IMHO, currently only available via amazon.uk from the BFI - great transfer) film "Scandal" featuring the late 20's Joanne Whalley. Watching her character again, I realized that my wife does some of the same coquettish mannerisms as Whalley. I didn't think I was into a type, per se - most of my relationships were with wildly different women. Maybe it was more about behavioral cues . . .
EDIT: Tomei was a classic fuckable 7. She could never compete with the 9's, but every guy from a 5 on up hoped he could bang her.
clambo says
Have blue eyes in a country where they're uncommon.
That works in America too, with darker women. I usually dated petite women with brown eyes and black hair, of some Mediterranean origin, but later found out that they all liked tall blond guys like me. That's something I had not considered at first. I thought it was just me going after them and not the reverse. There is a distinct dating benefit to being a very white-looking guy. Jealousy of this benefit might account for some of the recent hostility toward white people.
My ideal was the young Marissa Tomei, which I understand not everyone is into:
I was amused when my brother-in-law, on first meeting my wife, told me "She looks like Marissa Tomei." Maybe he was just being nice. Not saying my wife was movie star material, but could totally have been Marissa's sister.
I figured out that certain women dug me because I vaguely resembled John Lennon, especially because I'd wear the round tortoise shell eyeglasses. I recently rewatched the (excellent IMHO, currently only available via amazon.uk from the BFI - great transfer) film "Scandal" featuring the late 20's Joanne Whalley. Watching her character again, I realized that my wife does some of the same coquettish mannerisms as Whalley. I didn't think I was into a type, per se - most of my relationships were with wildly different women. Maybe it was more about behavioral cues . . .
EDIT: Tomei was a classic fuckable 7. She could never compete with the 9's, but every guy from a 5 on up hoped he could bang her.
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HeadSet
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2026 Mar 6, 6:13pm
HeadSet
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2026 Mar 6, 6:13pm
clambo says
I think that absurdity is part of the comedy. Plus, it was a low budget production so they used a place that was essentially free an needed no permission.
Does the loser simp dude think that a McDonald's meal is an actual expense to 1. impress a girl 2. get angry about?
I think that absurdity is part of the comedy. Plus, it was a low budget production so they used a place that was essentially free an needed no permission.
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Patrick
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2026 Mar 6, 7:15pm
Patrick
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2026 Mar 6, 7:15pm
stereotomy says
Another advantage to the Marissa type is they're often insecure about not being tall and blonde with huge tits, which they mistakenly assume is what all men want. So they're more agreeable, and I was quite agreeable to their agreeing, because they are exactly what I wanted anyway...
Tomei was a classic fuckable 7. She could never compete with the 9's, but every guy from a 5 on up hoped he could bang her.
Another advantage to the Marissa type is they're often insecure about not being tall and blonde with huge tits, which they mistakenly assume is what all men want. So they're more agreeable, and I was quite agreeable to their agreeing, because they are exactly what I wanted anyway...
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clambo
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2026 Mar 6, 9:57pm
Marissa Tomei is awesome.
I attended Staten Island schools for a time and there were many hot Italian American girls.
I can never forget Lucy S. in my homeroom, wow.
I attended Staten Island schools for a time and there were many hot Italian American girls.
I can never forget Lucy S. in my homeroom, wow.
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stereotomy
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2026 Mar 6, 10:01pm
stereotomy
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2026 Mar 6, 10:01pm
I think it's down to how the latin/mediterranean women smile - they get that twinkle in their dark eyes . . .
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Patrick
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2026 Mar 6, 10:13pm
Patrick
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2026 Mar 6, 10:13pm
Another good example of the type, from the Sexy Picture Thread:
https://patrick.net/post/1293879?start=1800787#comment-1800787
https://patrick.net/post/1293879?start=1800787#comment-1800787
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
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2026 Mar 7, 9:45am
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
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2026 Mar 7, 9:45am
George Costanza has a well-documented, obsessive crush on Marisa Tomei.
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
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2026 Mar 7, 1:46pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
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2026 Mar 7, 1:46pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey says
@komputodo !?
George Costanza has a well-documented, obsessive crush on Marisa Tomei.
@komputodo !?
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MolotovCocktail
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2026 Mar 9, 4:13am
https://x.com/benwehrman/status/2030766918739870140
MolotovCocktail
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2026 Mar 9, 4:13am
The primary goal of dating apps—and why the usual suspects (✡️) own and push them so hard—is because they:
a) Destroy women's value-perception in the dating marketplace
b) Trap the highest-value women into the infinite-attention death loop.
In the pre-digital, pre-globalized world, average women and average men would fall in love, create families, and be very happy together.
In a globalized, digitalized world, an average woman receives far more attention than she naturally would, as she now just has to post a single airbrushed picture on Tinder or Instagram and she'll have 5,000 simps from every corner of the world begging for her acknowledgement.
This artificial attention creates a false sense of high real-world value for her, so she raises her standards, and demands only top-tier men.
This doesn't work of course, because top-tier men are only interested in top-tier women. So this huge demographic of average women burn through their prime years, waiting for the perfect Prince Charming that will never come. They quickly find themselves in their 30s, childless, and without even the fake internet attention there to give her quick dopamine hits anymore.
The women who ARE very high-value, and genetically-gifted like the one below (White + blonde + A10 blue eyes = <1% of population), are arguably screwed even worse, however.
These women receive 100x the flooding of fake attention from the internet, 100x more in real life, plus they are targeted most heavily for degenerate industries like porn and OnlyFans (also controlled by the usual suspects 🧃).
To make things even worse, these women also have the highest genetic IQ, so they're shoved off to a University at the peak of their fertility prime to be pumped full of feminism propaganda, told that partying and sleeping with clueless 18 y/old boys is "liberation", and funneled into a "career" where she will spend the rest of her childbearing years making spreadsheets for a boss she hates.
The results are seen below. A woman who was brainwashed by all of the above, and thus failed in her divine mission to create life and preserve her ancestral bloodline with a good man who loves her, cherishes her, and would move mountains to build a family and legacy with her.
If you think that all of the pieces outlined above that have led millions of women down this path to depression, unfulfillment and childlessness is an accident...you don't understand how our enemies operate.
https://x.com/benwehrman/status/2030766918739870140
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
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2026 Mar 9, 8:15am
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
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2026 Mar 9, 8:15am
MolotovCocktail says
Meh. Poor skin, chapped lips and that nose. Oh and old.
White + blonde + A10 blue eyes = <1% of population
Meh. Poor skin, chapped lips and that nose. Oh and old.
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Patrick
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2026 Mar 9, 11:01pm
Patrick
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2026 Mar 9, 11:01pm
If that's a real quote, it's a classic case of "men must want in me exactly what I want in a man".
It's just so completely wrong.
Men actually want beautiful, feminine, fertile young women. Men do NOT want women who play businessman.
It's just so completely wrong.
Men actually want beautiful, feminine, fertile young women. Men do NOT want women who play businessman.
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zzyzzx
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2026 Mar 10, 7:17am
zzyzzx
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2026 Mar 10, 7:17am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAQKXdePlJk
She Asked Why There Are No Men at Target…
She Asked Why There Are No Men at Target…
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MolotovCocktail
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2026 Mar 10, 8:21am
MolotovCocktail
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2026 Mar 10, 8:21am
zzyzzx says
All predicted in The Misandry Bubble written 16 years ago.
Not the Target part, but the desperation of Misandry Bubble era women.
About Target: Gotta give the bitches credit. It's better place than the dating apps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAQKXdePlJk
She Asked Why There Are No Men at Target…
All predicted in The Misandry Bubble written 16 years ago.
Not the Target part, but the desperation of Misandry Bubble era women.
About Target: Gotta give the bitches credit. It's better place than the dating apps.
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HeadSet
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2026 Mar 10, 8:57am
HeadSet
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2026 Mar 10, 8:57am
zzyzzx says
That girl looks like she may have a decent bikini body under those loose clothes, plus a decent face if she loses those dorky glasses and Miss Grundy hairstyle. Almost like an attractive girl dressed ugly to make a satire video.
She Asked Why There Are No Men at Target…
That girl looks like she may have a decent bikini body under those loose clothes, plus a decent face if she loses those dorky glasses and Miss Grundy hairstyle. Almost like an attractive girl dressed ugly to make a satire video.
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clambo
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2026 Mar 10, 9:27am
I tried watching that YouTube but I can't; that guy is so fucking ugly I can't look at him.
How in the hell does an ugly troll like him even have the balls to comment about women?
He looks like a rubber hand puppet; he couldn't get laid in a whorehouse in Thailand.
The mousy nerdy girls are often the wildest fuckbunnies; "still waters run deep." So that Target girl is probably awesome.
How in the hell does an ugly troll like him even have the balls to comment about women?
He looks like a rubber hand puppet; he couldn't get laid in a whorehouse in Thailand.
The mousy nerdy girls are often the wildest fuckbunnies; "still waters run deep." So that Target girl is probably awesome.
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floki
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2026 Mar 10, 9:40am
clambo says
Hehehe... clambo... sure the dude isn't gifted but i think there awaits a line way in the back of that soi... for him 🤪
I tried watching that YouTube but I can't; that guy is so fucking ugly I can't look at him.
How in the hell does an ugly troll like him even have the balls to comment about women?
He looks like a rubber hand puppet; he couldn't get laid in a whorehouse in Thailand.
The mousy nerdy girls are often the wildest fuckbunnies; "still waters run deep." So that Target girl is probably awesome.
Hehehe... clambo... sure the dude isn't gifted but i think there awaits a line way in the back of that soi... for him 🤪
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