An Antidote To Corporate Media

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I got the patrick.net domain name back in 1995 when I was one day too late for patrick.com. Missing the .com name turned out to be fine. I prefer the .net name now because life is all about human networks. This site was just my personal blog from 1995 to 2004.

In 2004 I started writing about the housing bubble, which catapulted the site to national fame for a while. I was interviewed on NPR, on Nightline on TV, and in other corporate media that I have since learned to recognize as poison. Here are my original the articles about the housing bubble (the dates on them are much later because I updated them):


The big housing bubble popped in 2008, and traffic fell, since it was no longer controversial to assert that we really had had a housing bubble.

About then, I decided to just let the public discuss things with each other and wrote my own forum software. I'm a programmer, so that was fun. At first I was kind of disturbed at the number of conservatives on the site, but as I discussed things with them and saw San Francisco literally turn to shit under far-left Democrats, I changed my thinking.

And yet I didn't change my thinking all that much, because once again, I'm trying to oppose corruption of government by the oligarchy. Before, my enemy was the NAR (National Association of Realtors) and I still think they are nothing but institutionalized crime, but there are bigger fish to fry now, especially since the worldwide campaign to inject every human with a dangerous and ineffective genetic experiment, which is still not approved by the FDA. (They approved "Comirnaty", which is not available, to deceive the public.)


It’s like Pharma just backed a truck up to the Progressive Values Factory; stole everything; modified core values in order to maim people, make money, and implement global totalitarianism; and the left is just out there smoking a cigarette on the loading dock saying, “Sounds good to me.” What!? What the heck happened to the left? Is there no one remaining in that tribe who is capable of logic and reason!? Quite literally the worst industry in the world stole the left’s most cherished values and no one on the left is the slightest bit offended by this (even though they are offended by everything else)!? We live in the bizarro upside down world.

I have slowly concluded that everything progressives say they stand for causes immense pain and suffering to millions of people while funneling billions of dollars upward to the oligarchy:




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547   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jul 15, 4:16pm  

WookieMan says
I've got two boys and I'm probably going to push them to go the trades route with come CC courses on business. Or a STEM field. They'd have a leg up with engineering due to my wife's work. I just don't want them going near the bull shit minimum requirements/courses at a university that do nothing towards getting an engineering degree. Basically the indoctrination courses.

Finally got my wife to get on board with the trades first. Something like Rin's plan: GED at 16, Trade for a year or two, then college later.

Zen & Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: Learn to love fixing the motor, then think about physics or mechanical engineering.
548   Patrick   2020 Jul 15, 5:04pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Rin's plan: GED at 16, Trade for a year or two, then college later.

This should be standard, unless you're totally on fire for some specific degree.

Most students just kinda fuck around in college, wasting time and money until they hit on something they like. I was like that until I got into programming. Even then, the degree was not all that important. Lots of programmers don't have a degree these days.

And the last year or two of high school is also a waste unless you're really into it.

Finally, it's super-useful for everyone to have a basic trade they can fall back on. Construction, plumbing, electric, whatever.
549   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jul 15, 6:11pm  

Patrick says
Finally, it's super-useful for everyone to have a basic trade they can fall back on. Construction, plumbing, electric, whatever.

Exactly. Even if your destination is college, why not pick up a trade first, esp. if you're going the low/no debt route.

Great job that nobody thinks about: Locksmith. Always in demand, stupid easy to set up a business (you don't need a storefront or even a place of business to do lockouts, you can run it from your van or truck). How many older guys with kids wish they had a dependable young dude willing to work nights M-Th/F and be on call? Entrance requirements are minimal, it's mostly learn on the job. In FL there are no statewide requirements, and in Miami-Dade which is usually the toughest for requirements, it's having $25k general biz insurance, no felony convictions in the past 5-10 years, and one year's experience. Other counties are less.
550   WookieMan   2020 Jul 15, 6:25pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Zen & Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: Learn to love fixing the motor, then think about physics or mechanical engineering

That's the thing. I'd try to get them to find a niche trade. You brought up motorcycle engines and maintenance. Get your basic learning done, but jump into one type. Aircraft for example. Since most flight schools have Cessna's 152/172 or whatever model, learn that engine. Learn the plane and you could probably get a job in a ton of places given they're also popular to own. Factor in annuals, overhauls and maintenance and airplane mechanics will always be in need for that specific type.
551   Rin   2020 Jul 15, 7:05pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Something like Rin's plan: GED at 16, Trade for a year or two, then college later.

Sounds like Rin Wah is in effect ... Law!
552   AmericanKulak   2021 Jul 1, 6:05pm  

Patrick has proven a saying that is as old as AOL/Prodigy groups in the 90s, maybe back to BBS's of the 80s:

The moment a forum/chat/board has no rule except banning Personal Attacks, the length of a Lefty account is shortened to months.
553   Patrick   2021 Jul 1, 6:24pm  

I do think the left is orders of magnitude more angry and intolerant than the right.

For example, do you know of anyone, ever, who was unfriended for holding leftist views? The right tolerates the left, listens, and does not end friendship over such stuff even if they continue to disagree.

But the opposite does not hold. I would bet money that all of the unfriendings done in our lifetimes were 100% by leftists who could not tolerate any disagreement.

Similarly, almost all of the political violence done in our lifetimes was done by leftists. Only the left is violent these days, never the right, but you'd never know this fact from the MSM.

The very rare exceptions prove the rule. I can't even think of any, but there probably are a few. Compare BLM/Pantyfa actions in 2020, resulting in literally hundreds of violent riots, many of them resulting in murder, vs no riots and no murders at all on the right. The "insurrection" by unarmed selfie takers also proves the rule. The only fatality was a Trump supporter killed by a Capitol policeman.

Left = intolerant and violent
Right = tolerant and nonviolent

These are indisputable facts for anyone who actually looks at what is really going on.
554   richwicks   2021 Jul 1, 8:15pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
And in particular I think George Bush was acting on the best intel he had at the time post 9/11. I have to study up some more...there’s a few books I’ve had on the back burner....but I’m guessing that alone could be an epic thread. Once I’m read up on everything...I have no problem taking on the entire site.

I will take you up on this. I am in complete disagreement with you on this topic and I'm willing to discuss it civilly.

I don't think the US has been in a justifiable war since at least WWII, and even then, I'm not certain about WWII. We are lied into all our wars and our intelligence agencies aren't this incompetent.
555   richwicks   2021 Jul 1, 8:26pm  

Patrick says
For example, do you know of anyone, ever, who was unfriended for holding leftist views? The right tolerates the left, listens, and does not end friendship over such stuff even if they continue to disagree.

I do - me.

There's a point where I cannot take people's insistence that a bloodthirsty warmongering President like Obama that went on to bomb Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria is somehow a much better and less violent person than Trump was, especially when they are utterly oblivious that Obama went on to bomb Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria even though I've pointed this out to them multiple times. Hope and Change eh? Change to me wasn't gay marriage and a national discussion on trans-gendered bathrooms and I expect "smart" people to realize that. If they can't, I have to question their actual intelligence and moral thinking.

I don't want to be around people who just spew propaganda at me after a point, and have no logical or moral basis for their viewpoints, and simply have their viewpoints fed to them through mass media.

And that goes for BOTH "sides".

People who have told me that we "need to kill them over there otherwise we need to kill them over here" for example. Lunatics that think terrorists are going to barge into a classroom to blow up their kids. People that don't understand that US policy is to CREATE terrorists, not eliminate them and insist on arguing about trivialities and distractions like gay marriage, school prayer, trans-gendered bathrooms, flag burning and other bullshit that is created exclusively to get people at each other's throats. I see these as distractions and I'm irritated when other people cannot, for years. These are not important issues for the ruling class and therefore, aren't important issues at all.

People who insist on fighting on enemy turf, can't see that it's enemy turf - it's enormously frustrating. I really don't give a shit if some fucked up piece of shit parent allows their 9 year old kid to "change sex". Not my kid, but I do care when my nation is acting like the goddamned 4th Reich. There are issues that transcend our own existence. In 100 years, the American flag may be looked upon in the same way as the Swastika is today. That's the issue we ought to be worried about. Don't fuck up this nation, we have a responsibility for the next generation.
556   Patrick   2021 Jul 20, 11:37pm  


Most tribal disagreements on here result from Word Thinking (Credit: @ScottAdamsSays).

"This word means that, and that's bad!"

"No, it means this, and that's good!"

See this everywhere.
559   RWSGFY   2021 Aug 3, 7:43am  

zzyzzx says

RNZ is their NPR.
563   TrueLightEssence   2021 Sep 26, 9:57am  

original link
Dear Patrick,
May I share this heart call?
I have a small bitchute channel: 'Searching For The Evidence'.
My aim is to protect the vulnerable.
Timing is critical...We must make a stand.
With Love, Claire
564   charlie303   2021 Dec 16, 8:04am  

sjmoca2 says
Serious question for @Patrick and the followers of this forum.

Why did @Patrick censor the 'sjmoca' account by banning, when they did not break any forum rules? This forum purports to be a space to discuss ideas and disagree without insults. Patrick insulted 'sjmoca' by calling him a pharma shill, and then censored them by banning - seemingly only for posting data, ideas, or questions that Patrick personally disagrees with.

It's Okay for you to be offended Patrick. It's not Okay, by your own rules, to censor those who disagree with you.

because you are a bullshitter.

no links, no sources cited, no references, no nuanced debate, no reason, no rational discourse
just looking to troll

a waste of electrons flying around the interwebs

565   Patrick   2022 Apr 12, 9:15pm  


consider the structure of the question being posed and the assumptions therein, because they will seek to skip steps and occlude what’s being done and they will blow it by you because you happen to like the outcome so you won’t think about it too hard or bother to fight.

they will pick the least sympathetic case to get the ball rolling.

after all, who’s going to stand up for some neo nazis?

well, you should, and here’s why: sure they may be odious and you may disagree violently with them, but an assault on their speech is an assault on everyone’s speech, yours included.

the price of your own free speech is listening to others say things you absolutely hate. if you are not willing to do this, you neither deserve nor will you retain your own right of speech.

no one ever said it was easy, only that it was just and fair.

it is precisely because you will not stand up for the right to hateful speech that they are able to take your free speech away. then, one day, you try to protest a school board for muzzling your children in class and they silence you, bar you from discourse, and, in all too predictable fashion, brand you as a fascist and a nazi and as a domestic terrorist. (and yes, this really happened)

and it was your fault. you walked into it and let them set up the trap by changing the framing from rights to privileges. you failed to defend nazi speech and thereby lost your own. we all did (or enough did that the rest got run over)
566   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 19, 9:35am  

@Patrick, can I suggest all appearances of "Pedo" and "Pedophile" and "Pedophilia" be replaced with "Disney"?
567   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:13am  

Lol, I could do that.

OK, done for new comments and posts.

568   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 10:18am  

Patrick says
Lol, I could do that.

OK, done for new comments and posts.


If you are going to do that, can I suggest that you make it so that when the cursor hovers over the world "disney" the original word is shown?
569   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:34am  

@richwicks OK, done.
570   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 10:37am  

Patrick says
@richwicks OK, done.

Well, let's test it - a lot of Disney">Disneys work for Disney, in fact many pedophiles are upper level executives. Jean-Luc Brunel was a pedophile who worked with Jeffrey Epstein, Les Wexner, and Ghislaine Maxwell. He was Epsteined himself in a Paris prison while he was awaiting trial. Video evidence was again destroyed.

It missed the 2nd one.

Les Wexner is the billionaire of Victoria Secrets.
571   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:46am  

Ah, need to make that a global match and replace, thanks.

And need to account for plural.
572   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 10:49am  

If you ever want to setup a virtual machine to mirror this site, you know I can help.

Should be easy to clone your setup. Email won't work, but it doesn't need to.
573   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:54am  

Ah, the tooltip itself was getting replaced, ugh.

Just going to replace with plain "Disney" text for now.
574   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 11:15am  

Patrick says
Ah, the tooltip itself was getting replaced, ugh.

Just going to replace with plain "Disney" text for now.

I don't know what the tooltip looks like (html pretty bad now) - but if you could do a match on the tooltip and make that an exception..

I'll screw around with it this weekend. You're using PHP? Guess I'll learn that instead of doing it in perl.
575   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 11:17am  

No php, it's all javascript (node).
577   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 19, 11:32am  

Thanks, @Patrick, and good idea to cursor over, @richwicks.
578   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 11:57am  

richwicks says

I could do it, but it gets a little nasty to say "match of all of these strings but not if they are in quotes".

Also, it might be confusing since, since I have to make it a link which goes nowhere, and the tooltip itself depends on holding the mouse over the ineffective link for some amount of time. Or maybe it can be done inside a span tag, but the tooltip delay is still going make it non-obvious.
579   Onvacation   2022 Apr 19, 11:12pm  

Disneys are fucked up
580   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 11:17pm  

Patrick says
I could do it, but it gets a little nasty to say "match of all of these strings but not if they are in quotes".

Here's how I'd handle it in perl with a line:

$line =~ s/\"Disney\"/A_String_Youd_Never_See_sdj2m89amJx/g;
$line =~ s/Disney/disney/g;
$line =~ s/A_String_Youd_Never_See_sdj2m89amJx/\"Disney\"/g;

I use this trick quite often when doing weird substitutions. Perl is smart enough to optimize itself and realize what I'm "intending" to do.
582   Patrick   2022 Apr 22, 7:22pm  

DooDahMan says
“I’d rather rent and invest the money I didn’t put down for the down payment, home insurance, property tax, all of the other costs and make 7%-10% in the stock market

Thanks @DooDahMan that has definitely been my philosophy.

I'm grateful that my wife went along with it. I think most guys get a lot of pressure to get deeply into debt.
583   Patrick   2022 Apr 27, 12:28pm  

I broke some things about linkification and automatically inserting images.

Working on a fix now.
584   Patrick   2022 Apr 27, 2:10pm  

OK, I fixed it.

Please let me know if other problems.
585   Patrick   2022 Apr 28, 1:42pm  

Sorry if you couldn't get to the site for a few seconds. I changed the deployment script to use "reload" instead of "restart":


Now I should be able to deploy new code with almost zero downtime. In theory it's zero, but I did see one 500 error during a test deploy, so I guess it's not perfect.

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