An Antidote To Corporate Media

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2015 Feb 9, 7:43am   704,610 views  602 comments

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I got the patrick.net domain name back in 1995 when I was one day too late for patrick.com. Missing the .com name turned out to be fine. I prefer the .net name now because life is all about human networks. This site was just my personal blog from 1995 to 2004.

In 2004 I started writing about the housing bubble, which catapulted the site to national fame for a while. I was interviewed on NPR, on Nightline on TV, and in other corporate media that I have since learned to recognize as poison. Here are my original the articles about the housing bubble (the dates on them are much later because I updated them):


The big housing bubble popped in 2008, and traffic fell, since it was no longer controversial to assert that we really had had a housing bubble.

About then, I decided to just let the public discuss other topics with each other and wrote my own forum software. I'm a programmer, so that was fun. At first I was kind of disturbed at the number of conservatives on the site, but as I discussed things with them and saw San Francisco literally turn to shit under Democrat extremists, I changed my thinking.

And yet I didn't change my thinking all that much, because once again, I'm opposing corruption of government by the oligarchy. Before, my enemy was the NAR (National Association of Realtors) and I still think the NAR is nothing but institutionalized crime, but there are bigger fish to fry now, especially since the worldwide campaign to inject every human with a dangerous and ineffective genetic experiment, which was never approved by the FDA. (They approved "Comirnaty", which is not available, to deceive the public.)


It’s like Pharma just backed a truck up to the Progressive Values Factory; stole everything; modified core values in order to maim people, make money, and implement global totalitarianism; and the left is just out there smoking a cigarette on the loading dock saying, “Sounds good to me.” What!? What the heck happened to the left? Is there no one remaining in that tribe who is capable of logic and reason!? Quite literally the worst industry in the world stole the left’s most cherished values and no one on the left is the slightest bit offended by this (even though they are offended by everything else)!? We live in the bizarro upside down world.

I could go on, but you'll get the idea by reading the site.

I have a platform of ideas for improving America: https://patrick.net/post/1303173/2017-02-19-patrick-s-platform

And an explanation for how we got to this point.

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569   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 10:49am  

If you ever want to setup a virtual machine to mirror this site, you know I can help.

Should be easy to clone your setup. Email won't work, but it doesn't need to.
570   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 10:54am  

Ah, the tooltip itself was getting replaced, ugh.

Just going to replace with plain "Disney" text for now.
571   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 11:15am  

Patrick says
Ah, the tooltip itself was getting replaced, ugh.

Just going to replace with plain "Disney" text for now.

I don't know what the tooltip looks like (html pretty bad now) - but if you could do a match on the tooltip and make that an exception..

I'll screw around with it this weekend. You're using PHP? Guess I'll learn that instead of doing it in perl.
572   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 11:17am  

No php, it's all javascript (node).
574   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 19, 11:32am  

Thanks, @Patrick, and good idea to cursor over, @richwicks.
575   Patrick   2022 Apr 19, 11:57am  

richwicks says

I could do it, but it gets a little nasty to say "match of all of these strings but not if they are in quotes".

Also, it might be confusing since, since I have to make it a link which goes nowhere, and the tooltip itself depends on holding the mouse over the ineffective link for some amount of time. Or maybe it can be done inside a span tag, but the tooltip delay is still going make it non-obvious.
576   Onvacation   2022 Apr 19, 11:12pm  

Disneys are fucked up
577   richwicks   2022 Apr 19, 11:17pm  

Patrick says
I could do it, but it gets a little nasty to say "match of all of these strings but not if they are in quotes".

Here's how I'd handle it in perl with a line:

$line =~ s/\"Disney\"/A_String_Youd_Never_See_sdj2m89amJx/g;
$line =~ s/Disney/disney/g;
$line =~ s/A_String_Youd_Never_See_sdj2m89amJx/\"Disney\"/g;

I use this trick quite often when doing weird substitutions. Perl is smart enough to optimize itself and realize what I'm "intending" to do.
578   Patrick   2022 Apr 22, 7:22pm  

DooDahMan says
“I’d rather rent and invest the money I didn’t put down for the down payment, home insurance, property tax, all of the other costs and make 7%-10% in the stock market

Thanks @DooDahMan that has definitely been my philosophy.

I'm grateful that my wife went along with it. I think most guys get a lot of pressure to get deeply into debt.
579   Patrick   2022 Apr 27, 12:28pm  

I broke some things about linkification and automatically inserting images.

Working on a fix now.
580   Patrick   2022 Apr 27, 2:10pm  

OK, I fixed it.

Please let me know if other problems.
581   Patrick   2022 Apr 28, 1:42pm  

Sorry if you couldn't get to the site for a few seconds. I changed the deployment script to use "reload" instead of "restart":


Now I should be able to deploy new code with almost zero downtime. In theory it's zero, but I did see one 500 error during a test deploy, so I guess it's not perfect.
583   Patrick   2022 May 10, 4:03pm  

I reworked some of the code, in particular comment pagination.

You all shouldn't notice much of a difference, but let me know if something is broken. Make a comment here or write p@patrick.net
584   AmericanKulak   2022 May 17, 8:50am  

@Patrick, when I start a new post, and try to upload an image, it refreshes the page. This also happened last night.

I just posted a picture to non-new thread, and it was no problem. That was Senate Candidate Kathy Barnette discussing how Jan 6th Rally was fun.
585   Patrick   2022 May 17, 10:02am  

@AmericanKulak Thanks for telling me.

I think I fixed it, please try again now.
586   PMack   2022 May 17, 10:22am  

The Antidote is to turn to the Word of God.
587   stereotomy   2022 Jun 2, 3:29am  

What is with all the p3nor spammers?
588   Patrick   2022 Jun 26, 9:19pm  

I learned a new term today:

In philosophy and rhetoric, eristic (from Eris, the ancient Greek goddess of chaos, strife, and discord) refers to an argument that aims to successfully dispute another's argument, rather than searching for truth. According to T.H. Irwin, "It is characteristic of the eristic to think of some arguments as a way of defeating the other side, by showing that an opponent must assent to the negation of what he initially took himself to believe."[1] Eristic is arguing for the sake of conflict, as opposed to resolving conflict.[2]

It seems that trollery has always been with us.
589   GreaterNYCDude   2022 Jul 25, 4:58pm  

I'm down to try this.
590   Patrick   2022 Jul 25, 5:07pm  


Try tipping someone else a cent, just for kicks. I know you can afford it now that I've tipped you a dime!
591   Patrick   2022 Jul 25, 5:41pm  

Careful about copyright. I think if you earn any money off of copyrighted material, the owner could come after you.
592   GreaterNYCDude   2022 Aug 16, 8:26pm  

Love this idea. I've started working on a post or two that will be pay to view. Taking my time to ensure my take is original, well written and hopefully worth the price of admission. Should have them up by this weekend.
593   Patrick   2022 Aug 16, 8:40pm  


Thanks for trying it! I know almost all the regulars have at least a few cents to pay because I tipped them myself.

I think the idea is still missing something though.

People aren't going to mail in money to read articles unless there are a lot of good for-pay articles.
But people aren't going to write a lot of good for-pay articles until there's a big audience which has already mailed in money.

Suggestions appreciated.
594   Onvacation   2022 Aug 16, 8:52pm  

Patrick says

Suggestions appreciated.

the eternal quest to monetize the internet.

I'll buy you lunch and a beer. Will that help?
595   Patrick   2022 Aug 16, 9:01pm  

Careful, I might accept.
596   GreaterNYCDude   2022 Aug 17, 8:47pm  

First one is up. Dug into the "87,000" IRS agents to be hired, with supporting links. Set fee at 5 cents initially, dropped it to a penny for the sake of being a first attempt. It's not about the money, it's more about helping you develop the concept.

I also doled out a couple of tips to others in an attempt to get this party started!
597   Patrick   2022 Aug 27, 9:14pm  


I like your idea of asking a question and then paying for a good answer. It's like Quora, but with small payments instead of a subscription fee.

How about this:

- User asks a question as a new post.
- Other users answer the question as locked comments and each sets a price on their response.
- After 90 days, all comments on that post become visible to everyone for free.

Now how would you judge whether or not to pay for a certain locked comment?

- You could see how much that user has earned from responses so far.
- The comment author should give some qualification of themselves, or why they think they have a good answer, in the first 40 words of their response.
- Some other way?
598   AmericanKulak   2022 Oct 27, 7:54pm  

Time to welcome back Twitter links and restore embeds?
601   Patrick   2024 Jul 3, 2:13pm  


What is the correct response when you hear from a friend who moved his family from Harlem to Princeton "for better schools and safety" that he is trying to find ways to make sure his kids don't grow up "privileged"? I don't know man. That's a tough one. Maybe find a new reality where the law of non-contradiction doesn't apply?

What eventually develops in these circles, from what I have observed, is a kind of agreement to not speak the unspeakable truths. We all know that the ideology is rotten at its core. We all know that we can't live our ideals. And we all know that we chose our own privilege over the self-sacrificial equity that we advocate for others.

But don't TELL anyone about that. Otherwise, the gig is up and we can't maintain our comfortable lifestyles alongside our smug sense of superiority. Subsequently, this demographic is inevitably accompanied by an unspoken pact of comfortable silence, quite similar to the one that I was told ruled middle-class bourgeois communities in the 1950s.

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