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2015 Sep 28, 9:49am   3,502 views  10 comments

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Liquid water runs down canyons and crater walls over the summer months on Mars, according to researchers who say the discovery raises the chances of being home to some form of life.

The trickles leave long, dark stains on the Martian terrain that can reach hundreds of metres downhill in the warmer months, before they dry up in the autumn as surface temperatures drop.

Images taken from the Mars orbit show cliffs, and the steep walls of valleys and craters, streaked with summertime flows that in the most active spots combine to form intricate fan-like patterns.

Scientists are unsure where the water comes from, but it may rise up from underground ice or salty aquifers, or condense out of the thin Martian atmosphere.

“There is liquid water today on the surface of Mars,” Michael Meyer, the lead scientist on Nasa’s Mars exploration programme, told the Guardian. “Because of this, we suspect that it is at least possible to have a habitable environment today.”


http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars

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1   Tenpoundbass   2015 Sep 28, 10:28am  

So basically what you are saying is using Mass Spectrometry to determine what heavenly bodies are comprised of is totally Junk Science.
The Hubble hasn't captured a picture of Shit ever. It's still the broke hunk of junk that the failed Hubble Repair space mission left it in.
It didn't capture a image of Pluto showing a planet of loosely packed material that kicked it out of the Planet club.

There's water on Mars, then how come none of our highly sensitive technological advanced equipment picked that up?

The Article should read NASA pisses on our legs again.

2   Tenpoundbass   2015 Sep 28, 10:41am  

New evidence my suggest that NASA is full of shit, in the summer, then freezes as the winter months.
Which oh btw if our Winter was as cold a Martian summer, it would kill every living organism above ground on Earth.
Not only would water be frozen solid, our Oceans would all be a super chunks of ice sheets.
The new data suggests, that NASA scientists might be onto a new junk science to inject that Mars might have water.
And we all MIGHT forget about what a shitty crappy president Obama really is, and that no good Sr. Droopy Boehner is an Idiot.

If you wanna impress me make me a glass martain water Kool-Aide.

3   Ceffer   2015 Sep 28, 10:42am  

I think the scientists are claiming the Rovers have caused rampant Mars warming, and that if nothing is done, all the water will evaporate and they will never be able to find signs of life.

4   Blurtman   2015 Sep 28, 10:54am  

Starbucks scouting the site.

5   HydroCabron   2015 Sep 28, 11:08am  

Tenpoundbass says

The Hubble hasn't captured a picture of Shit ever. It's still the broke hunk of junk that the failed Hubble Repair space mission left it in.
It didn't capture a image of Pluto showing a planet of loosely packed material that kicked it out of the Planet club.
There's water on Mars, then how come none of our highly sensitive technological advanced equipment picked that up?

There is a strict limit on how much resolution ANY optical system can capture. It's called the diffraction limit. For a telescope (in arcseconds) it is determined by the wavelength divided by the diameter. The lower the wavelength and the higher the diameter. the more detail we can resolve.

Instruments which resolve this much are said to be "diffraction limited". Radio telescopes are diffraction limited, because the atmosphere does not mess with those long wavelengths; since, however, the wavelengths are very long, the overall resolution is low, even with huge dishes.

The Hubble operates at about 50% of its diffraction limit. This is extremely good: 0.1 arcsec. No telescope of the Hubble's aperture will ever be able to see significant detail on Pluto from low Earth orbit. For similar reasons, no telescope on or near Earth will ever be able to take pictures of the Apollo landers on the moon, unless it's about a mile in diameter.

Here are the Hubble shots of Neptune - about 28 AU from Earth. The limits of resolution are already noticeable. Since Pluto is 1/25 the diameter of Neptune, you can forget seeing any detail on Pluto, even with a diffraction-limited instrument (twice the resolution of Hubble):

6   HydroCabron   2015 Sep 28, 11:09am  

Blurtman says

Starbucks scouting the site.

I favor putting perchlorate in lattes served on Earth. Much cheaper than sending people to Mars, and equally lethal.

7   anonymous   2015 Sep 28, 2:09pm  

Liquid water runs down canyons and crater walls over the summer months on Mars, according to researchers who say the discovery raises the chances of being home to some form of life.

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Mind. Blown.

Usually, when people talk about searching space for alien life form, they talk about finding an intelligent species. Like hoping we'd find something more intelligent than our own species, so it can answer our questions, solve our problems, teach us. Or the most likely scenario, so we can kill it

But reading the words "some form of life", is much more promising, because it's more likely. I envision sime big shitty smelling Sleestack looking aliens, being a more likely discovery. Then the politicians and the scientists under their payroll thumbs, will cry that "we must help them!" And they'll import them, force them to live amongst the poor dumb white trash of the south, so that they can be completely insulated from the crappy ignorant aliens. And then they'll bleet on about how fucking racist the WTs are for not figuring out how to cohabitate in peace

8   NDrLoR   2015 Sep 28, 3:12pm  

errc says

"some form of life"

Someone made the point in a letter to the editor that if a "blob of tissue" the abortion proponents claim is not life were found on some celestial body it would be trumpeted to the heavens that life had been discovered in outer space.

9   Dan8267   2015 Sep 28, 9:50pm  

P N Dr Lo R says

Someone made the point in a letter to the editor that if a "blob of tissue" the abortion proponents claim is not life were found on some celestial body it would be trumpeted to the heavens that life had been discovered in outer space.

That person is an idiot. The argument in favor of legal abortion is not that the zygote, embryo, or fetus is not alive, i.e. living tissue, but rather that it is not a person. Biochemistry does not a person make. Nor does human DNA.

Now there are legitimate arguments for assigning personhood to the developing offspring at some point and we can argue about what that point is, but to claim that mere biochemical reactions constitutes personhood is clearly bullshit as none of the proponents consider chopping down a tree to be murder.

10   New Renter   2015 Sep 29, 10:22pm  

Dan8267 says

Now there are legitimate arguments for assigning personhood to the developing offspring at some point and we can argue about what that point is, but to claim that mere biochemical reactions constitutes personhood is clearly bullshit as none of the proponents consider chopping down a tree to be murder.

Think again:

HydroCabron says

Blurtman says

Starbucks scouting the site.

I favor putting perchlorate in lattes served on Earth. Much cheaper than sending people to Mars, and equally lethal.

I'm with you there. More humane too.

errc says

Usually, when people talk about searching space for alien life form, they talk about finding an intelligent species. Like hoping we'd find something more intelligent than our own species, so it can answer our questions, solve our problems, teach us. Or the most likely scenario, so we can kill it

Or bang it:

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