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Vicente
2015 Nov 12, 5:41pm
Yeah I knew a great guy who followed all these rules.
Guess where he ended up after college?
Vicente
2015 Nov 12, 8:25pm
Politics ?
Good guess, but no.
100% straight-arrow for someday payoff. Then oops you're dead, delayed reward too long. He was an only child, such a perfect son. I was a pallbearer at his funeral and I caught his Mom sobbing "now we have no future....". Because of a stupid traffic accident.
Ceffer
2015 Nov 12, 8:37pm
Wow, that's a lot more complicated than "Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n Roll." No wonder nobody listens to that shit.
NDrLoR
2015 Nov 12, 9:16pm
No wonder nobody listens to that shit
It would have been common sense in 1959, laughed to shame in 1969.
9. Live for immediate gratification
This pretty much described a young man who lived as a tennant in my house during the first half of 2004 when he was a senior at Baylor. He was a nice young man, too, and majored in business, except he didn't take care of his. I had another phone line installed in his bedroom so he could have a computer--he played computer poker virtually every minute he was home (at least he did on weekends when I was here)--the cable was in his mother's name. I would come to the house after being in Dallas for two weeks--the mail was deposited through a slot in the door and not a piece of it had been opened--Chevron bills, cable bills, none of them touched. He had a surplus of over $500 on his student loan or something like that, so what did he do? He rented a limo and took two or three of his friends to Austin for a weekend of partying. He worked at Borders and one night I heard him come in about 1:00 in the morning, then leave about 30 minutes later--but didn't come back. He still wasn't there in the morning or at noon. I came in in the middle of the afternoon and his Jeep wasn't there but he was. He said I guess you noticed the Jeep wasn't there and I said yes. He had gone over to the 7-11 to buy some cigarettes and a cop noticed a tail light out. When he ran his plate he discovered he had an unpaid speeding ticked in Louisiana from three years earlier. He was taken to jail and his Jeep impounded. He called one of his friends about 2:30 in the morning to bail him out--I'm glad he didn't call me. He said while he was being booked, the son of one of his professors was being booked for cocaine possession. He was engaged all the time and he married soon after graduation. I just wondered if his fiance had the insight into his character that I did who only saw him briefly every other weekend and how they are doing these 11 years later.
An addendum from another recent thread:
Avoidable expenses: STD's, abortions, DUI's, lung cancer, head injuries, cirrohis of the liver.
Ceffer
2015 Nov 12, 10:13pm
Boy, I am sure glad there are ten of them. Than means I can get away with nine of the ways and still have a non-screwed up life.
FortWayne
2015 Nov 13, 12:03pm
1. Do everything opposite of the bible, you'll screw up pretty fast.
Dan8267
2015 Nov 13, 1:01pm
1. Do everything opposite of the bible, you'll screw up pretty fast.
So you're saying that I should offer up my daughters to be gang raped by pedophiles? (Genesis 19:4-8)
Yep, following the Bible won't screw you up.
Heraclitusstudent
2015 Nov 13, 1:14pm
10 added ways that work well when you reach your thirties:
11- Move to California
12- Marry a blond American woman
13- Buy a house
14- Spend the equity when the price goes up
15 - Get 5+ credit cards
16 - Have kids
17 - Keep up with the Jones
18 - Spend your life working
19 - Watch TV or play video games every day
20 - Blame others for your problems
Strategist
2015 Nov 13, 4:35pm
1. Do everything opposite of the bible, you'll screw up pretty fast.
A couple of slaves would be nice.
FortWayne
2015 Nov 13, 7:38pm
So you're saying that I should offer up my daughters to be gang raped by pedophiles? (Genesis 19:4-8)
The story of the Sodom and Gomorrah are not advice, everyone knows that. Somehow you don't get it, as usual.
A couple of slaves would be nice.
Best you can do is hire a few illegals these days.
Dan8267
2015 Nov 13, 8:21pm
So you're saying that I should offer up my daughters to be gang raped by pedophiles? (Genesis 19:4-8)
The story of the Sodom and Gomorrah are not advice, everyone knows that. Somehow you don't get it, as usual.
Fort Wayne: Do what the Bible says and you'll leave a good life.
Dan: The Bible is full of morally reprehensible teachings that would get you thrown in prison. For example, Lot offers his two adolescent daughters up to be gang raped by old men.
Fort Wayne: Ah, that doesn't count.
Fort Wayne, you'd have to discard about 95% of the "moral teachings" of the Bible as "that doesn't count" in order to not warrant being thrown in pound-me-ass prison for life. With a 95% failure rating, the Bible doesn't cut it as a moral guide. It's more like "even a broken clock is right twice a day". By that standard, you might as well use Mein Kampf as your moral guidebook. I'm sure if you cherry pick as hard with that book as you do the Bible, you'll find a few non-objectionable morals even in that broken clock. What's Hitler's stance on raping your own children? Oh, he's against it. I guess that makes Hitler a moral authority.
Christ, the Bible even got slavery wrong. That's the easiest moral question ever. If you can't get that right, you're not a fucking moral authority. Slavery bad. Both the old and new testaments are pro-slavery. 'Nuff said.
NDrLoR
2015 Nov 13, 9:10pm
Slavery bad
Slavery and poverty were the norm for most of human existence in every society. Slavery didn't start to recede until Christianity began to take effect. It took decades, but the rejection started with the churches. Christianity, the United States and capitalism are the best things that ever happened to the world. Do you think for a minute you could voice your opinions and enjoy the comforts and freedoms you have at any other time or place? Most people in history even up to the 19th century, and especially in the middle ages and back, would give years off their lives if they could know and experience what you have, yet you seem to detest it. Even if you were right about everything, the anger is so intense it makes me wonder about your sanity.
Strategist
2015 Nov 13, 9:26pm
Slavery bad
Slavery and poverty were the norm for most of human existence in every society. Slavery didn't start to recede until Christianity began to take effect. It took decades, but the rejection started with the churches.
Shame on you P N Dr. Slavery is supported by Christianity. It did not recede until secularism took effect.
Dan8267
2015 Nov 14, 12:09am
Slavery didn't start to recede until Christianity began to take effect.
Total revisionist history. Christianity was around for 1600 years when the slave trade took off. Slavers used the Bible, both testaments, to legitimize slavery as the Christian god very much approved of it.
It took decades, but the rejection started with the churches.
Anti-slavery movements predate Christianity by several hundred years.
Even if you were right about everything, the anger is so intense it makes me wonder about your sanity.
There was no anger in my statements. You are simply projecting your own ideology and world view onto me. Perhaps you need to reflect on what is going on inside your head. You clearly do not have the ability to read my mind and your belief that you can is a form of insanity.
komputodo
2015 Nov 14, 8:11am
Yeah I knew a great guy who followed all these rules.
Guess where he ended up after college?
Arguing on Patnet?
Dan8267
2015 Nov 14, 2:44pm
Actually that's an animated GIF of your wife. I guess you didn't recognize her without the muzzle.
1. Believe that ideas don't have consequences.
Right now you are in the process of becoming what you will one day be. You are preparing for something. You are either doing the things that will prepare you to be a great spouse, parent, employee, friend, etc.; or, you are preparing to be the opposite of that. Everything you think and do now will lead you down one of those paths.
2. Live outside your means.
When you spend more than you can afford, you still have to pay for it—plus interest. By living the “good life” now, you ensure you'll be living the bad life of debt payments, downsizing, financial worries, and delayed/nonexistent retirement in your future decades. Many people today are still paying for experiences that happened years ago, long after the “instant gratification” has been forgotten.
3. Feed an addiction.
Whether it is alcohol, money, drugs, pornography, shopping, or whatever, it seems like most people have an addiction of some kind. These addictions bring death: either literal death, or death to relationships, to freedom, and to joy.
4. Run with fools.
Fact: you are becoming who you hang around with. It's been said you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with. You do what they do (because you're doing it together), you pick up on their ideas and beliefs, and you even learn their mannerisms and language. So if you hang around with idiots, or addicts, or criminals, that's what you will become.
5. Carelessly give your heart away.
Want heartbreak? Give your heart to someone who will break it. And how do you know who will break it?Everyone will, except for someone who truly commits to protecting your heart and loving you until the end, no matter what. If they are really willing to commit to that, they will gladly do so officially through marriage vows. So, only give your heart away once—at your wedding. Until then, be careful with your heart. Be careful with what entertains it and what you allow it to seek. You may not be able to choose who you love, but you can choose who you let love grow with.
6. Tolerate evil.
You've probably heard the quote: “The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing.” Well, it's true. Because there is evil in the world, actively seeking to destroy others, and if nobody opposes those actions they will succeed. And then eventually you'll be the target.
“Tolerance” is a big word right now, and is often held up as an absolute good—that you should always tolerate every person and every idea. But some people kill. Some take part in sex trafficking. Some promote ideas of genocide or infanticide, or argue that they should be able to sleep with whomever they feel like. Stand against evil, or one day there may be no one left to stand for you.
7. Make secondary things ultimate and ultimate things secondary.
If an outsider were to observe how you spend your time and resources, what would they end up saying your life is about? Making money? Looking good? Fantasy football? There is nothing wrong with working, or working out, or having hobbies, or being interested in the opposite sex. Those are all good things, if you don't go overboard and make them the focus of your life.
8. Believe that this life is all about you.
You are one of seven billion people alive currently, and though you are special, so is each of the other 6,999,999,999—and the billions who have come before but are now long dead and forgotten. You are not the star of this show. You have a cameo that will be forgotten as soon as the screen changes. People who become the biggest thing in their world are dysfunctional. They have a skewed view. They will always end up either disappointed or delusional. And when they go, their world disappears; they don't actually leave any impact.
9. Live for immediate gratification.
Almost nothing truly worthwhile comes quickly. It takes time and discipline to become an Olympic athlete, or to simply get in shape; to get a degree, or become a CPA, or become a great husband or wife. And any of the things you truly want long-term can be derailed by indulging yourself in the moment.
Do you want an amazing marriage, or just one amazing night? Do you want to retire in 36 years, or drive a luxury car for the next 36 months? Because in each case, choosing the latter makes it more difficult (or impossible) to have the former. Don't choose ramen over riches.
10. Avoid accountability.
We all have the tendency to screw up, or be blind to our own failings, or to convince ourselves that we can change on our own even though it's never worked in the past. But are you running to community and accountability, or running away from it? Some people avoid it like the plague. The only reason you avoid accountability is because you don't want to be corrected, even though that means you then continue to do the things that ruin your life.