patrick.net

Its ok. we already knew you dumbfucks were immune to anything trumpfucktard does... As he said himself, "he could shoot someone, and you'd still vote for him" which shows even he knows his supporters are dumb as dogshit.

Its ok. we already knew you dumbfucks were immune to anything Hillary does... As she said herself, "she could shoot someone, and you'd still vote for her" which shows even she knows her supporters are dumb as dogshit.

thunderlips11 says

Gawker and their snooty Williamsburg Hipster content providers aren't out of business yet?

So, now you've gone from "Hillary is just as bad" to attacking the source? You're on a downward spiral.

indigenous says

ts ok. we already knew you dumbfucks were immune to anything Hillary does... As she said herself, "she could shoot someone, and you'd still vote for her" which shows even she knows her supporters are dumb as dogshit.

Actually, Hillary never said anything like that, while trump did. Wow, you really are a stupid little cocksucker!

Ironman says

Actually, Hillary just lies directly to your face, so

EVERY independent source has concluded that Hillary's statements are true 5 times as often as your trumpsuck's. But, since you are too stupid to even find google on a computer, you wouldn't know that!

How is this even possible ?

When ZZYXX and TPB and millions of others listen to this, they say "Now this guy is one smart dude. I'm so off the charts impressed with his intelligence, the depth of his knowledge, and his character and personality. Donald Trump is so awesome, he's going to fix all our problems and he's going to make me feel safe!"

tatupu70 says

So, now you've gone from "Hillary is just as bad" to attacking the source? You're on a downward spiral.

No, Hillary is not just as bad. Hillary has already done the many things the "Trump=Hitler" crowd (expensive MENA wars for starters) allegedly doesn't like. Trump hasn't held any office, so he hasn't done these things.

That's the difference.

As for Gawker, it specializes in outing Gays of no Public Interest and is a dunghill of a rag. I'm surprised it's still functioning after the lawsuit. Hopefully VICE will be next.

Trump: But I was against the war in Iraq from the beginning.

Stahl: Yeah, but you’ve used that vote of Hillary’s that was the same as Governor Pence as the example of her bad judgment.

Trump: Many people have, and frankly, I’m one of the few that was right on Iraq.

Stahl: Yeah, but what about he–

Trump: He’s entitled to make a mistake every once in a while.

Lesley Stahl: But she’s not? OK, come on–

Trump: But she’s not–

Stahl: She’s not?

Donald Trump: No. She’s not.

Stahl: Got it.

so, it is OK for Pence to cheerlead the fuck out of the war, but wrong for Hillary to vote for it.... Seems logical, IF YOU ARE A DUMBFUCK TRUMP SUPPORTER WITH SHIT FOR BRAINS!!!

AND trump is absolutely lying about being against the war from the beginning. Plenty of proof to the contrary out there.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

AND trump is absolutely lying about being against the war from the beginning. Plenty of proof to the contrary out there.

Even if true, this doesn't excuse Hillary's multiple bellicose votes on the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, the Drone Bombings, the Patriot Act and Wiretaps, etc.

Words are words, votes are votes. Hillary has a proven Record, Trump does not have a record of Action.

"I don't care, I'm voting for the PROVEN Warmonger with vote after vote behind her proving her warmongering. I'm not voting for the guy with the big mouth who has occasionally said contrary things - he COULD be a warmonger."

www.youtube.com/embed/77P6fxa2KOs

trump saying he's for invading Iraq. He doesn't seem to have thought about it much, which isn't a surprise, given the way he operates.

Given the fact he's opining on a wide range of issues, and spends only a few seconds of a 3 minute Q&A over it, and the War Cheerleading hadn't yet gone into full swing.

But you do acknowledge Hillary voted for the Iraq War and kept voting for it, right?

"Hillary's voting record FOR the war over and over again is the same as Donald giving a SINGLE off-the-cuff remark during a single interview with Stern before the War Cheerleading went into full swing. Trump=Hitler!!! Vote Hillary, she voted FOR the war!!"

www.youtube.com/embed/unRJmJPqRqk

Even Factcheck admits this "Stern Interview" offered as a Gotcha is, at best, a basically a hesitant Trump saying "I Guess"
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/

Provides multiple examples, including a remark mere days after the invasion, calling the war "Depressing" and in September 2013 offered this remark:

Trump, Sept. 11, 2003: It wasn’t a mistake to fight terrorism and fight it hard, and I guess maybe if I had to do it, I would have fought terrorism but not necessarily Iraq.

It's not like the country hadn't thought about the issue... so your excuse doesn't hold water.

I remember watching Colin Powell at the UN, with a very convincing set of data showing Iraq still had weapons of mass destruction, and feeling very conflicted about whether or not we should invade.

Unlike you, I can judge Hillary's votes then based on the facts we were given then.

indigenous says

YUP. Thanks for that.

Let's also not forget the countless emails produced in the run up to Libyan intervention, then after Ghaddafyi died and the country descended into Civil War, Hillary's concern was measured in the stupendous falloff in emails on Libya.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/congress/hillary-clinton-testimony-at-house-benghazi-panel/susan-brooks-stacks-emails

She broke it, and then she washed her hands of it. That's a Hillary Presidency in a nutshell.
www.youtube.com/embed/p8ROxJnF2cM

Shit Hillary would never, ever say:

“On foreign policy, Hillary is trigger happy,” Trump told the crowd. “She is, she’s trigger happy. She’s got a bad temperament,” he said. “Her decisions in Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya have cost trillions of dollars, thousands of lives and have totally unleashed ISIS.”

And he expressed a rarely heard appreciation for the “other side to this story,” noting: “Thousands of lives, yes, for us, but probably millions of lives in all fairness, folks” for the people of the Middle East.

Trump implied that casualties inflicted by the U.S. military were far higher than reported. “They bomb a city” and “it’s obliterated, obliterated,” he said. “They’ll say nobody was killed. I’ll bet you thousands and thousands of people were killed every time you see that television set.”

“If we would’ve done nothing,” Trump argued, “we would’ve been in much better shape.”

thunderlips11 says

Even if true

LOL

thunderlips11 says

Given the fact he's opining on a wide range of issues, and spends only a few seconds of a 3 minute Q&A over it

LOL

Low energy today.

I haven't heard anyone out of all of the liberal peacenik groups saying that millions of people have been killed. It takes a special kind of disregard for the truth to get to that statement. Ironically, he would have a decent point about the vast number of Iraqis killed if he didn't include factually incorrect statements every few minutes.

The other factually incorrect statement is saying that he voted against the Iraq war. The only public statement that anyone has found that Trump made before the war was hime supporting it on the air with Howard Stern. He did come out against it pretty quickly, though. This may have been in part because of his business interests: http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/

When asked about Pence voting for the Iraq war, Trump says: "I don't care."

What about Libya? Here's what Trump said prior to Libya action:

"I can’t believe what our country is doing," Trump said, according to a BuzzFeed transcript. "Gaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is: It’s a carnage."

Trump continued.

"You talk about things that have happened in history; this could be one of the worst," Trump said. "Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before."

Go here for the rest of the quote: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/25/donald-trump/donald-trumps-pants-fire-claim-he-never-discussed-/

It's nut just that Trump lies and exaggerates about everything. He's lying about the fundamental aspects of his foreign policy, which, by the way, is based on the whim of the moment with him.

Clintons championed and signed NAFTA into law, repealed Glass Steagal, touted TPP as a model for all trade agreements and made 100s of millions for their "charity". But have a D in front and dems will vote for Attila the Hun. Funny they used to make fun of repubs for voting against their self interest.

I've got a gotcha.
Have blood on their hands Republicans found the WMD?
Will they bring back all the dead,based on the WMD LIE?

Can't answer can you,retarded slime?

If one Slime Republican voted for any trade deal, Fuck all Republicans!
They could have disappeared this traitor.
Traitors punishing traitors,no way.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/stephen-colbert-crashes-republican-convention-stage-mock-donald-181842025.html

Wow. Sounds like most of your renters bailed...
Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

EVERY independent source has concluded that Hillary's statements are true 5 times as often as your trumpsuck's. But, since you are too stupid to even find google on a computer, you wouldn't know that!

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/mike-pence-just-destroyed-trumps-chances-of-winning-over-bernie-sanders-voters-commentary.html

A recent Pew Research poll found just 9 percent of Sanders backers would vote for Trump; he did slightly better in a separate poll from Yik Yak, a location-based social media network, drawing 13 percent.

"I was gonna vote for Trump if he picked a more moderate VP," Sanders supporter Shahid wrote on Facebook following the announcement of the Trump-Pence ticket on Saturday. "But now I'm all in for [Jill] Stein," the Green Party candidate for president.

If Trump "had picked a more moderate person instead of the devil incarnate, he would have been more appealing,"Javiera C wrote. "We all know Trump will probably get impeached in the first year so his VP will be president."

Another Facebook user suggested Trump's pick of an establishment Republican like Pence taints his credentials as an anti-establishment outsider, while yet another vowed that Pence only increased her opposition to Trump.

Donald Trump doesn’t read much. Being president probably wouldn’t change that.

"Trump’s desk is piled high with magazines, nearly all of them with himself on their covers, and each morning, he reviews a pile of printouts of news articles about himself that his secretary delivers to his desk."

"with this idea that knowing things is almost a distraction."

Man, oh man.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-doesnt-read-much-being-president-probably-wouldnt-change-that/2016/07/17/d2ddf2bc-4932-11e6-90a8-fb84201e0645_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_republicans-250pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Trump picking Pence was his submissive roll onto his back, so the republican establishment could pat his belly. It's the only reason that this is not a contested convention, and is proof that Trump will bow down and do what is expected when threatened. When president, he will have to do what he is told or face impeachment.

Trump said that Hillary's vote for the iraq war showed her judgement is unfit for the presidency, while Mike Pence voting for the same war, he "didn't care" and "the guy gets to have made a mistake"

You really can't make shit like this up, and you can't make up you utterly stupid assholes who try to rationalize it!

The Republican convention has been moved to Benghazi and the Benghazi hearings have been moved to Cleveland. In Cleveland, Trey Gowdy has been kicked to the curb and replaced by Charles in Charge, that guy from The Bold and the Beautiful, and a silicone-filled mail order bride.

YesYNot says

Trump picking Pence was his submissive roll onto his back, so the republican establishment could pat his belly. It's the only reason that this is not a contested convention, and is proof that Trump will bow down and do what is expected when threatened. When president, he will have to do what he is told or face impeachment.

Notice nobody is talking about Corporate Clinton's VEEP choice.

Nobody is adopting Hillary's manner of speaking/words in general convo.

Even on this board, Trump detractors use "Low Energy" "Sad!" to express themselves.

I'm half expecting desperate "logic" when Hillary tries to insist on few if any debates. She'll get creamed. Remember, he won pretty much every single debate against a huge field of Republican opponents, and esp. towards the end when they were ganging up on him together. She's fuckin' doomed.

thunderlips11 says

Even on this board, Trump detractors use "Low Energy" "Sad!" to express themselves.

That is because Hillary sucks the life out of them, I think she is a vampire of sorts.

thunderlips11 says

Notice nobody is talking about Corporate Clinton's VEEP choice.

Nobody is adopting Hillary's manner of speaking/words in general convo.

Even on this board, Trump detractors use "Low Energy" "Sad!" to express themselves.

I'm half expecting desperate "logic" when Hillary tries to insist on few if any debates. She'll get creamed. Remember, he won pretty much every single debate against a huge field of Republican opponents, and esp. towards the end when they were ganging up on him together. She's fuckin' doomed.

That's rich. Trump in debates will be in a lather of adolescent one-liner lies. He doesn't know what lie he'll tell until after it comes out of his mouth.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/07/18/fact-check-donald-trump-false-misleading-claims/87249350/

Then he'll walk it back and make himself look like even more of a clueless tool. Oh, and we Trump detractors rag on the Scarlett Whore a' plenty. You, on the other hand, if you've uttered one true criticism of your moronic sociopath, I have yet to see it. Try and give him the lens you turned on Pence. It'll never happen, but that's OK. Isolating Trump as a thing in himself is just not how you roll.

neplusultra57 says

That's rich. Trump in debates will be in a lather of adolescent one-liner lies. He doesn't know what lie he'll tell until after it comes out of his mouth.

30 years of public life, opposed to gay marriage; well into the 21st Century. Sniper Fire in Bosnia, mentioned it in stump speech after stump speech and called Sinbad the Comedian a liar (he was on the same trip with her and said the only danger was the restaurant food). Too bad there was footage of her landing in Bosnia and lollygagging with Chelsea right behind her, taking flowers and poetry from a Bosnian Girl at the airplane's door naked and open on the Tarmac. Jesus, she argued with Terry Gross on NPR over her lifetime (until 2010) opposition to Gay Marriage with a straight face. Here it is in her own words.

www.youtube.com/embed/-dY77j6uBHI

Hillary is more a Country Club Neocon Republican than 90% of the Democratic Party and probably half the Republican Party. Only candidates for President that could be worse are Mad Bomber McCain and Lindsay Fag-o-war Graham.

Like I said, it's just not how you roll.

neplusultra57 says

Oh, and we Trump detractors rag on the Scarlett Whore a' plenty.

As long as you vote for Stein or not at all. Nobody who runs for president isn't a Supreme Egotist. Her track record is one of solid neoliberal-neoconservative 'values'. With Trump there's a lot of wiggle room and Overton Window stretching.

I'm sick unto death of neoliberal-neocon platitudes, it doesn't phase me that Trump is "Flexible" rather than a True Believer in Corporate Globaloney.

I'd be happier with God Emperor than Frumpy the Warmonger. Oh, did you know she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary?

thunderlips11 says

As long as you vote for Stein

I would if the composition of the Court weren’t at such a critical point. If I had my druthers I’d close my eyes and vote any liberal third party candidate for the rest of my life. But when doing so gives your deluded birther bimbo a better chance of wrecking Roe v. Wade and furthering Citizens United I have to consider voting for a very flawed neo-liberal power-hungry harpie who still clings to using progressive taxation as the sole structural tool to reshaping wealth disparity in America.

Oh, you missed what I just did there. Try it some time. You won’t appear so weary of propping up a bilious cretin.

thunderlips11 says

Shit Hillary would never, ever say:

Yeah but her staunchest supporters will just blame bush for 9/11 and the Iraq WMD lie.

Even though she supports it, they will vote for her anyway.

thunderlips11 says

But you do acknowledge Hillary voted for the Iraq War and kept voting for it, right?

No, even people here on patnet just double down with their Saul Alinsky-esque disinformation campaigns

thunderlips11 says

"I don't care, I'm voting for the PROVEN Warmonger with vote after vote behind her proving her warmongering. I'm not voting for the guy with the big mouth who has occasionally said contrary things - he COULD be a warmonger.

.

I honestly don't know how anyone could say Trump could absolutely be worse on foreign policy than than Clinton/Obama. Bush was terrible also, but Obama did very little to right the ship. Catching Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein ain't cutting it.

They claim that he doesn't have a good temperament to hold the keys to nuclear arsenal, but is Clinton? I would say Trump is definitely better than McCain and at the very least, no worse than Romney.

Ironman says

What very few consider, Trump built an empire of over 500 enterprises and over 22,000 employees. A person with a terrible temperament, short fuse and bad decision making could never do that.

Good point, meanwhile Hillary is known for doing everything herself, and having trouble with 2 email accounts.

Ironman says

What very few consider, Trump built an empire of over 500 enterprises and over 22,000 employees. A person with a terrible temperament, short fuse and bad decision making could never do that.

Donald Trump Success Plan:

1. Be born to a dad that has 5000 rental properties in NY.
2. See step 1.

I keep being amazed by how fucking stupid you are, Ironpussy. it really is something!

you have the thinking capacity of a child, and not even a very bright child.