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From Rin, for Dan/Pat, but not the trolls ...


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2016 Oct 16, 3:38pm   6,604 views  28 comments

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Dan8267 says

Rin says

Rashomon says

What? Most people don't feel the need to brag about having to pay hookers for sex, yet you choose to do it on a one time housing forum. Like I said, very peculiar.

This is called, going out for drinks after work.

There is nothing morally wrong with prostitution, and it should not be illegal. The illegality of prostitution is what causes all the bad things about it: STDs, violence, drug addition, the inability to get support for problems. Make something illegal and those who partake in it lose the protection of the law. Thus making prostitution illegal is the greatest harm the law does to women in our society.

That said, what the hell is prostitution anyway? All heterosexual men pay women for sex in one way or another. If you buy a woman an expensive diamond ring and marry her, how the hell isn't that the exchange of wealth for sex? Does it have to be a cash transaction? So Joe gives a woman a diamond ring in exchange for sex, and it's not an engagement but rather just payment for the sex, then it's not prostitution, right? So used diamond rings simply become an alternative currency.

I take out women to nice restaurants and pay for the dates. Typically sex happens on the third or fourth date. Since I'm spending a good $200 in romance on these women before sex, does that make them prostitutes?

The artificial distinction of what is and is not prostitution is, in fact, completely arbitrary. We live in a society in which women have short-term sexual relationships, including intercourse, with men who spend money on them and take them to nice places. And yes, a lot of these women are interested in me because I have a nice car and wouldn't have given me the time of day in my first car. Yes, women are shallow. So are men. It would be nice if we didn't care about superficial things like beauty and wealth, but we do. So in almost every romantic relationship between a man and a woman, the man gives some kind of financial resource to the woman. This is just part of human nature, and in fact, even predates homo sapiens.

So calling prostitution immoral is hypocritical bullshit, and making it illegal serves no purpose but to harm both men and women. Yes, there are trade-offs between pursuing short-term relationships and obtaining a long-term one, but prostitution is not the reason that the American mating market has drastically shifted towards short-term sexual relationships.

As for the prostitutes Rin visits, I can only imagine they are a greatly different class than the ones you see on the local news -- I wouldn't touch those with a ten foot pole. I have no idea how he gets them. Come to think of it, I've never seen a hooker walking on the street except in movies and t.v. shows. I have absolutely no street wisdom. But if it makes Rin happy, and it's consensual, and Rin stays safe, why should he be ashamed of it? He's hurting no one and contributing to the local economy.

I image that Rin's paying more for sex with hookers than I spend on date and hook ups, but I could be wrong. I spend about $200 and a good ten to twenty hours of my time on a woman before sex. And, of course, I spend about $80 on one or two dates each with several woman that goes no where for every "success". So I'm probably spending in time and cash about $1500 for each time I get laid with a new woman. How does that expense compare to prostitutes, Rin?

In any case, I like going out to a nice restaurant with a beautiful woman even if I don't get laid. The meal and conversation is an enjoyable and rewarding experience in itself. It makes me feel that I'm not wasting my life away doing nothing but work and PatNet. Granted, you do get some dates where there is zero chemistry, and they get awkward, but that's just part of life. I never blame the woman. Some people just don't jive.

Dan, the truth of the matter is that Montreal esc.orts, beat the ordinary dating/hook up with American street gals, by a parsec.

Here's the thing, when I'm not working, I don't want to spend, 10 to 20 hrs on a hookup. For me, if I were to amortized that, that's base income of $70/hr X (10-20 hrs), or $700 to $1400, simply wasted in the chase.

Since my firm covers my livery and hoteling costs, my time/life is very efficient. I pay $200-$250/hr, get what I want, and I'm done. And what's so amazing is that the whole 'Pretty Woman' thing is so ordinary, by Montreal standards. Getting a hot French-Canadian (meaning a 7 to 10) isn't really a big deal. In all honesty, I'd seen women, hotter than Julia Roberts. This person is one of them, from her modelling shoots ...

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1   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Oct 16, 4:01pm  

Dan - Humaniplex.com

Theres others, but that is what I'm familiar with.

If Rin is paying $200-250 its why he doesn't see anyone in NY. They are more expensive there...at least for the quality Rin is looking for.

The reviews on Theeroticreview aren't 100% so even if he did go that route, he will leave unsatisfied sometimes and I suspect he doesn't want that.

Rin, please correct me if I have anything wrong.

2   Dan8267   2016 Oct 16, 4:08pm  

It seems that Rin knows what he's doing. He probably spends less on sex with prostitutes than I spend on dating and hook up sex, and definitely less time. If only Canada bordered Florida. I can't bring myself to move to such cold weather territory.

Related to this discussion, a friend forwarded me this video link. Enjoy and discuss.

www.youtube.com/embed/zN7tF8W1B2E

3   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 4:25pm  

Dan8267 says

It seems that Rin knows what he's doing. He probably spends less on sex with prostitutes than I spend on dating and hook up sex, and definitely less time. If only Canada bordered Florida. I can't bring myself to move to such cold weather territory.

Well Dan, it seems like you need to invest in an L.L. Bean jacket, and you'll do fine in a colder climate.

Seriously, the woman in the pic above, is a real person. And believe me, once you'd had one like her, you won't be thinking about wasting dinners on others, aside than your close friends. You know, the real friendships from years ago.

Ever since I'd since seen 'Pretty Woman' for the 2nd time ... I'd wondered, if Mr Gere was in my position, wouldn't he have done better off, buying the woman in my pic, every weekend for years at a time, than in wasting his time with Ms Roberts? And remember, Gere was a multi-millionaire in his film, I'm merely a low level millionaire, who's just cashing out his equity.

4   missing   2016 Oct 16, 4:32pm  

Rin, didn't they change the law in Canada recently and it is now illegal to buy sex? (but legal to sell)

5   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 4:35pm  

FP says

Rin, didn't they change the law in Canada recently and it is now illegal to buy sex? (but legal to sell)

It's just that they've codified what's already been known, ppl do not communicate for the sake of a boink. Afterwards, they can boink.

All this does is separate the poor ppl, you know, the ones looking for street action, from the gentlemen who can purchase "friendships".

6   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Oct 16, 4:36pm  

I don't know about 2nd or 3rd dates, If I don't get it on the 1st she better have given me a hummer or made it known at Date 1 that Date 2 is gonna involve fishnet stockings and lingerie.

Honestly, not humblebragging. If somebody wants your ass, they'll go for it right away. I did my wife and the 5 girlfriends before her within 2-3 hours of meeting. Not just the AF ones, either. Young Guys need to know this so they don't get strung along, until the gal has 5 drinks and says "I Guess". There are too many quality, good income, cool and kind young dudes getting dinner dollar raped out there and go home with their dick in their hand after the 3rd trip to Ruth's Cris or whatever.

Tits or Get the Fuck Out. Also, any mention of sexual abuse and their ass is out. Or crazy shit like being dragged across the floor by the hair (5'2" little tiny gal wanted me to come over the next day and drag her around by the hair before doing her pinned down. I would do anything for love, but I won't do that). Or come over and fuck me so my husband gets home. No Poon is worth going to jail or getting shot.

7   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 4:40pm  

Thunderlips, I don't want a GF, otherwise, I would have gone out with that Chilean visiting scholar.

Seriously, you need to stop mixing the whole 'dating in a hurry' with the whole, 'freedom to boink' movement.

8   Strategist   2016 Oct 16, 4:42pm  

Rin says

Thunderlips, I don't want a GF, otherwise, I would have gone out with that Chilean visiting scholar.

Seriously, you need to stop mixing the whole 'dating in a hurry' with the whole, 'freedom to boink' movement.

What about one night stands? Wont that be more fun than ho's?

9   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 4:44pm  

Strategist says

What about one night stands? Wont that be more fun than ho's?

Yes, if she didn't have my number. Otherwise, how would I get rid of her?

And that French-Canadian pic above is an 8-9, the average date is a 6-7. Seriously, I'd much rather pay to boink a near supermodel than waste time with an ordinary woman.

10   Strategist   2016 Oct 16, 4:48pm  

Rin says

Strategist says

What about one night stands? Wont that be more fun than ho's?

Yes, if she didn't have my number. Otherwise, how would I get rid of her?

You can have 2 numbers on one smart phone. "Line 2"
$10.00 per month.

11   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 4:49pm  

Strategist says

You can have 2 numbers on one smart phone. "Line 2"

$10.00 per month.

Yes, I already do that, one is for the telemarketers.

12   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 4:56pm  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Young Guys need to know this so they don't get strung along, until the gal has 5 drinks and says "I Guess". There are too many quality, good income, cool and kind young dudes getting dinner dollar raped out there and go home with their dick in their hand after the 3rd trip to Ruth's Cris or whatever.

Tits or Get the Fuck Out. Also, any mention of sexual abuse and their ass is out. Or crazy shit like being dragged across the floor by the hair (5'2" little tiny gal wanted me to come over the next day and drag her around by the hair before doing her pinned down. I woul...

Rin says

Ppl, I'd already f.ucked the woman in this pic. Once again, why is it, that I'm asked to want to date and go through some faux 'date' rape or some other mind game apparatus? Don't you get it, I'd used my resources efficiently and had beaten American society, in its ploy to control and manipulate me.

13   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Oct 16, 4:59pm  

Rin, no worries man. Go bang ho's. I was triggered by the multiple dates crap. Women are horny horndogs, and if somebody is going on more than 2 dates max without nooky or at least oral, they just ain't that into him.

14   missing   2016 Oct 16, 5:01pm  

Rin says

It's just that they've codified what's already been known, ppl do not communicate for the sake of a boink. Afterwards, they can boink.

So no undercover cops doing raids?

15   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 5:02pm  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Women are horny horndogs, and if somebody is going on more than 2 dates max without nooky or at least oral, they just ain't that into him.

Actually, this is not true. I'd been attacked after the 3rd platonic encounter, a number of times. That's the so-called 'hubby' seeking territory where the woman senses that this is a quality guy and can be conquered. The problem is that I can't be conquered because I'm Rin, the serial hoe bonker!

16   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 5:03pm  

FP says

Rin says

It's just that they've codified what's already been known, ppl do not communicate for the sake of a boink. Afterwards, they can boink.

So no undercover cops doing raids?

That's the United States of America, where there's no freedom.

17   Dan8267   2016 Oct 16, 5:14pm  

Rin says

Actually, this is not true. I'd been attacked after the 3rd platonic encounter, a number of times. That's the so-called 'hubby' seeking territory where the woman senses that this is a quality guy and can be conquered.

I agree. A lot of women follow the third date rule to avoid the guy thinking they are sluts. However, I don't make any allusions that I'm seeking marriage.

18   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 5:19pm  

Dan8267 says

Rin says

Actually, this is not true. I'd been attacked after the 3rd platonic encounter, a number of times. That's the so-called 'hubby' seeking territory where the woman senses that this is a quality guy and can be conquered.

I agree. A lot of women follow the third date rule to avoid the guy thinking they are sluts. However, I don't make any allusions that I'm seeking marriage

For me, by that time, I'm already bored, having a glass of gin, and thinking about a Metallica song (while re-visiting Montreal for a poke), instead of the seeing the woman for the 4th time ...

www.youtube.com/embed/mcm6D8m4ldc

19   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Oct 16, 5:49pm  

Dan8267 says

I agree. A lot of women follow the third date rule to avoid the guy thinking they are sluts. However, I don't make any allusions that I'm seeking marriage.

YMMV. My motto is 'no 3rd = no 3rd'

20   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 5:54pm  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Dan8267 says

I agree. A lot of women follow the third date rule to avoid the guy thinking they are sluts. However, I don't make any allusions that I'm seeking marriage.

YMMV. My motto is 'no 3rd = no 3rd'

Long story short ... I don't date, I simply f.uck hoes.

The whole dating (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th ....) is academic for me.

21   Ceffer   2016 Oct 16, 5:56pm  

What a shallow life.

Sounds a LOT more fun than my boring, meaningful, deep and hoe-less life.

22   Rin   2016 Oct 16, 5:58pm  

Ceffer says

What a shallow life.

Sounds a LOT more fun than my boring, meaningful, deep and hoe-less life.

You need to change that somehow ... you need to drink [ pick-your-alcohol ], poke a hoe, and listen to some hard rock.

Once you repeat the above, a number of times, you'll feel a lot better.

23   Dan8267   2016 Oct 16, 7:34pm  

Interesting tidbit on The Huffington Post about sex on the first date.

“Yes, if you do not care for the guy or just are not thinking about a relationship right now. No, if he is a keeper. My fiance and I meet through work and flirted for two months before going out for the first time.”

Thunderlip's experience contradicts this, so it will vary.

24   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Oct 16, 10:17pm  

Different Strokes for Different Folks. I was only looking to screw, not for a girlfriend. And, I was doing internet hookup sites. These are girls looking for a lover (or at least say they do), not a husband, so after 2 dates when any major worries about going home with an axe murderer are void, at that point, they aren't worth any more of my time.

For obvious reasons a gal from work is less likely to sleep with you immediately as it could effect reputation and thus future chances with other men at work (and esp. gossipy ass female co-workers).

Dating from work is very dangerous for men these days.

25   Patrick   2016 Oct 16, 10:45pm  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Dating from work is very dangerous for men these days.

That's a pity, since both pairs of my grandparents met at work.

Heck, I met my wife at work as well, and dated her while we both worked together.

No wonder marriage rates are falling.

26   BayArea   2016 Oct 16, 11:03pm  

rando says

That's a pity, since both pairs of my grandparents met at work.

Heck, I met my wife at work as well, and dated her while we both worked together.

Few thoughts... @Patrick

Dating at work comes with obvious risks. We had a gal here lose her job over a relationship that went sour because she became a distraction to everyone else. The guy is still here and doing well.

If you are serious, the risks become lower.

But yes, if you are playing the field or half serious, absolutely never ever under any circumstances date at work.

27   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Oct 17, 4:10am  

BayArea says

rando says

That's a pity, since both pairs of my grandparents met at work.

Heck, I met my wife at work as well, and dated her while we both worked together.

Few thoughts... @Patrick

Dating at work comes with obvious risks. We had a gal here lose her job over a relationship that went sour because she became a distraction to everyone else. The guy is still here and doing well.

If you are serious, the risks become lower.

But yes, if you are playing the field or half serious, absolutely never ever under any circumstances date at work.

Dating at work is a disaster. I can't tell you how many bad situations I've seen. I'd advise any man against it, esp if he wants to promote.

28   Dan8267   2016 Oct 17, 7:15am  

rando says

No wonder marriage rates are falling.

One of many reasons.

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