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Legendary Carl Bernstein said Comey wouldn't have done this without troubling evidence.

The Democrats are endangering the rule of law by second guessing the FBI.

We've got a professor that has predicted every election for the last 35 years that says our guy is going to win. Krugman is a dismal failure.

My own theory is that this reflects a partisan divide within the FBI. The initial investigation was probably squashed by a Hillary supporter, but after that, other more idealistic factions just could not live with Hillary getting away with a crime just because she's the Democratic candidate. So they forced the case to re-open. They are likely to lose their jobs now.

rando says

My own theory is that this reflects a partisan divide within the FBI.

that's possible. Or, more likely, the director knows he is on his way out, and it may be personal.

How hard would it have been, still be, to add some meat to the announcement? Has he seen the emails? do they seem to be different than the others? Or if not, is it just a formality, likely to be closed as was the original investigation?

If it turns out the emails are all duplicates, or similar in nature to the ones already examined, he (fbi director) looks extremely bad as trying to influence an election... likely career ending for him.

rando says

My own theory is that this reflects a partisan divide within the FBI. The initial investigation was probably squashed by a Hillary supporter, but after that, other more idealistic factions just could not live with Hillary getting away with a crime just because she's the Democratic candidate. So they forced the case to re-open. They are likely to lose their jobs now.

They didn't have hard evidence, all of the email evdence had been suppressed when he made his ruling. There was precedence here. Unless you have smoking guns like actual doccuments that had not been redacted. Then nobody never get's convicted. Everything showing up on Uma and Jagov's phones. This brought all of the wikileak after the fact information back into play.
The reason why the FBI couldn't consider wikileak before because it was double Jepordy and it was not information brought about through their own investigative effort.

This is a game changer.

I'm reading that he can not look at the huma emails without a court order, so he has no idea what is in them. Lots of smoke. No consistent details emerging yet.

Of course he has read them he can't comment on them and go into detail without court order, only imposed by our Corrupt government already proven to be sweeping this under the rug.
Hillary is an illegitimate candidate at this point, and any attempt to try to put her in power by any elected official at this point is a coup attempt.

The desperation to elect a criminal is appaling. The apologists in the thread...how is it possible they are not paid operatives of the democrats?

The Deplorable DFJ says

The desperation to elect a criminal is appaling. The apologists in the thread...how is it possible they are not paid operatives of the democrats?

Are you a paid operative for some loser moron group?

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Legendary Carl Bernstein said Comey wouldn't have done this without troubling evidence.

He also said it was not Watergate. Trump is a fool. The Deplorable DFJ says

The desperation to elect a criminal is appaling. The apologists in the thread...how is it possible they are not paid operatives of the democrats?

I don't get a dime. I just don't want a fascist leader who could be a Hitler. Putin misunderstands the instability of Trump. And maybe he wants a world war against Muslims. The FBI probably does too.

rando says

My own theory is that this reflects a partisan divide within the FBI.

Yes, and the right wants a world war against Muslims. If they get control, I don't think Trump will be Putin's favorite anymore. You know what COINTELPRO is, right, Patrick?

I saw a Hilalry bumper sticker today-the first one I have seen the whole season. I was surprised and looked closer and it said-Hillary for prison 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, Trump could end up in jail for the rape and beating of a 13 year old girl. It is just a lawsuit now, but who knows? She has a steadfast witness.

The Deplorable DFJ says

desperation to elect a criminal is appaling.

Which one is the criminal? Both have many accusers. Neither has been convicted.

Ironman says

What happens when your DNC Hillary Shill paycheck goes away on Nov. 9th.

I'm on Trump's payroll. He doesn't want the job. Can't you tell?

YesYNot says

I'm reading that he can not look at the huma emails without a court order, so he has no idea what is in them. Lots of smoke. No consistent details emerging yet.

You don't need a court order to read material obtained by another Law Enforcement agency by warrant (NYPD and Weiner sex chat investigation).

Part of the FBI's job is counter-intelligence and info security.

Think about it. Let's say the Ft Lauderdale Police Department is looking at Herman Rothstein, suspected Ponzi Schemer, and they execute a warrant. They find out he's got emails detailing from the Mayor of Hialeah Marco Fernandez, that implicates him in potential criminal acts unrelated to the Rothstein case. You think the Police Department can't forward these emails to the FBI or Florida State Police or Miami-Dade Authorities?

Waiting for headline "Comey found dead neck broken while doing yoga"

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

You don't need a court order to read material

What if the original warrant covered material on one users account, and not the whole computer? How do you know the warrant covered what they found? If he has the emails how come he doesn't know if any are new?

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

YesYNot says

I'm reading that he can not look at the huma emails without a court order, so he has no idea what is in them. Lots of smoke. No consistent details emerging yet.

You don't need a court order to read material obtained by another Law Enforcement agency by warrant (NYPD and Weiner sex chat investigation).

Part of the FBI's job is counter-intelligence and info security.

Think about it. Let's say the Ft Lauderdale Police Department is looking at Herman Rothstein, suspected Ponzi Schemer, and they execute a warrant. They find out he's got emails detailing from the Mayor of Hialeah Marco Fernandez, that implicates him in potential criminal acts unrelated to the Rothstein case. You think the Police Department can't forward these emails to the FBI or Florida State Police or Miami-Dade Authorities?

The lack of knowledge of basic law pertaining to crimes by some of the Democrat jockers here at Patnet is ridiculous. The one that turned me into a hammer on Marcus was when he incessantly tried to argue that finding George Zimmerman "not guilty" in his trial would set "precedence". Even when he was factually shown that case law does not work that way, he still would not admit he was wrong and kept insisting that the trial would create case law and set a precedence. Its like arguing with a wall.

40c8 says

The Deplorable DFJ says

The desperation to elect a criminal is appaling. The apologists in the thread...how is it possible they are not paid operatives of the democrats?

Are you a paid operative for some loser moron group?

Please describe for us what Hillary's asshole tastes like.

YesYNot says

What if the original warrant covered material on one users account, and not the whole computer? How do you know the warrant covered what they found? If he has the emails how come he doesn't know if any are new?

The warrant was almost certainly for every electronic record on the machine(s). Law Enforcement goes for the broadest sweep they can unless the judge tells them to narrow it down and come back, which is pretty rare in the case of suspected sex crimes involving a 15 year old and they're asking for all electronic data in the suspect's possession. Very, very few judges are gonna demand the PD narrow that warrant down.

It's more than likely they Testdisk'd the fuck out of any devices Weiner possessed - if they even needed to do so because the emails very well could have been stored locally and never deleted.

If you're being investigated for accounting fraud, the NYPD is going to get a warrant to look at all electronic data on your devices. If some emails on it are to and from your wife and Ivanna B. Onatop, detailing the deliveries of Uranium to the Ace Tomato Plant in Nevada, they're going to forward that to the FBI. "Oh, well, while we were looking into Crazy Andy's Electronics Store double books fraud, we found evidence that his secret lesbian wife may have been corresponding with a potential Russian agent about American nuclear secrets. But since we only are looking for evidence of Crazy Andy's Accounting Fraud and not his wife's potential relationship with a spy, we have to disregard all that and not pass it on to the FBI." = Not how it works.

"Donald says everything is Rigged"

"The FBI is done rigged against Us! Putin Plot! Vast Right Wing Conspiracy in the depths of the FBI!"

There is something in there. methinks the others who originally saw it probably read classified info-because they were just expecting sex pics. Too many people knew and Comey knew it would come out. That Lynch lady is just nuts.

Someone was saying it was the Clintons who introduced Weiner to Huma-maybe a convenient arrangement so Hilalry could have Huma to herself.

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

The warrant was almost certainly for every electronic record on the machine(s). Law Enforcement goes for the broadest sweep they can unless the judge tells them to narrow it down and come back, which is pretty rare in the case of suspected sex crimes involving a 15 year old and they're asking for all electronic data in the suspect's possession. Very, very few judges are gonna demand the PD narrow that warrant down

IANAL, and don't pretend to be, so can't really challenge you on this: But from another thread: https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html?ref=patrick.net

Also, if he has the emails, he should know how many are new by now, if any No excuse to sit on it if there are no new ones. No excuse to not let people know how many emails they are sifting through.

Ironman says

Is it normal procedure to announce all your evidence in the MIDDLE of an investigation??

It's not normal to announce that you are opening an investigation into a nominee for president two weeks before an election. It's definitely not normal to do so even though you admit that you don't know if there is any new evidence. There is no normal in this situation.

Eventually Comey will admit to being forced under threat.

Scapegoats wanted.

The logical outcome of Alinsky style polarization in place of good faith.