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The actual pussy-grab comment: "They let you do it."


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2017 Jan 20, 11:55am   21,001 views  79 comments

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Today I had this conversation:

Ex-boss: Trump said he could assault women and they couldn't do anything about it.
Me: No, that's not true. Trump said women would consent to whatever advances he makes, because he's rich and famous.
Ex-boss: No, Trump said "they couldn't do anything about it".
Me: Let me look up the quote.

So here it is:

“I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it,” Trump is heard saying.

“Whoa,” another voice said.

“I did try and f--- her. She was married,” Trump says.

Trump continues: “And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, ‘I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.’”

“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,” Trump says. “Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.”

At that point in the audio, Trump and Bush appear to notice Arianne Zucker, the actress who is waiting to escort them into the soap-opera set.

“Your girl’s hot as s---, in the purple,” says Bush.

“Whoa!” Trump says. “Whoa!”

“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says. “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

“And when you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

“Whatever you want,” says another voice, apparently Bush’s.

“Grab them by the p---y,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

Note that he said they let you do it. This means he says that they consent if you are a star.

It is a lie to say that Trump said "they can't do anything about it". That would be a false quote and totally changes the meaning to imply no consent.

#trump #politics

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40   Patrick   2017 Jan 23, 8:03am  

bob2356 says

You guys don't get a lot of dates do you.

@bob2356 Read the sidebar material at https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/ especially the "Theory Reading" section.

41   Shaman   2017 Jan 23, 8:12am  

bob2356 says

So trump claiming twice in his speech that he watched thousands of people celebrating, watched not read about, when there is no film showing it ever happened is fact based how exactly? What a joke. You are pathetic.

I know it's hard to remember back before everyone had a smartphone in their pocket with high resolution camera built in, but video cameras used to be clunky things, kind of special circumstance equipment. Certainly the average person didn't carry one about. In our current age of digital accessibility, photos and videos of every conceivable action are recorded each day by perfectly average people who happen to observe something they find interesting. That wasn't the case in 2001.

42   Dan8267   2017 Jan 23, 8:24am  

bob2356 says

You guys don't get a lot of dates do you.

You got it backwards. Understanding how women think increases your success in romantic encounters. Idealizing women and foolishly thinking they are more noble than they are is a guaranteed path to celibacy. Wake up and take the red pill.

Learn.
http://conquistaperfeita.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/The-Mystery-Method-How-to-Get-Beautiful-Women-Into-Bed.pdf

Or stay ignorant. Your choice. Just don't hate the player.

43   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 10:34am  

rando says

bob2356 says

You guys don't get a lot of dates do you.

@bob2356 Read the sidebar material at https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/ especially the "Theory Reading" section.

@patrick I have much better things to do with my time thank you very much. Feel free to believe that you are gaining dating enlightenment from a bunch of people who are spending their time posting about dating women rather than actually doing it. The phrase that comes to mind is navel gazing.

44   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 10:42am  

Dan8267 says

Learn.

http://conquistaperfeita.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/The-Mystery-Method-How-to-Get-Beautiful-Women-Into-Bed.pdf

People that have to spend a lot of time telling you how good they are at something aren't.

As a friend of mine (an Olympic bronze medallist in downhill) says, let the skis do the talking.

45   MMR   2017 Jan 23, 10:52am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

ALL PUSSIES CAN REPORT TO THE SOUTH LAWN TO BE GRABBED BY YOUR NEW OWNER, TRUMPLIGULA!

I take it you'll be first in line

46   MMR   2017 Jan 23, 11:06am  

Quigley says

bob2356 says

So trump claiming twice in his speech that he watched thousands of people celebrating, watched not read about, when there is no film showing it ever happened is fact based how exactly? What a joke. You are pathetic.

I know it's hard to remember back before everyone had a smartphone in their pocket with high resolution camera built in, but video cameras used to be clunky things, kind of special circumstance equipment. Certainly the average person didn't carry one about. In our current age of digital accessibility, photos and videos of every conceivable action are recorded each day by perfectly average people who happen to observe something they find interesting. That wasn't the case in 2001.

How hard is it to believe when 1/4 of people of a certain religion believe that bombs are at least sometimes justified? If the issue is that Trump himself saw it with his own eyes, that has to be taken with grain of salt, but NJ does has the second largest population of muslims outside of Michigan and there are eyewitness accts from that time. Not really stretching imagination there

47   MMR   2017 Jan 23, 11:12am  

rando says

They even want the power to revise history and go back and claim assault even years later if the pussy grab was desired and enjoyed but the man then fails to commit.

Bill Cosby comes to mind here.

48   MMR   2017 Jan 23, 11:14am  

Dan8267 says

Idealizing women and foolishly thinking they are more noble than they are is a guaranteed path to celibacy. Wake up and take the red pill.

In fairness to Bob, he is probably stably married for a long time.

49   Patrick   2017 Jan 23, 12:44pm  

bob2356 says

I have much better things to do with my time thank you very much

If there are things that you do not want to know, OK, that's your choice.

But I'm entirely convinced that Red Pill theory is actually correct, because it's coherent, logical, and testable.

50   Ceffer   2017 Jan 23, 1:13pm  

Fucking bitches can't even make a pussy hat that looks like a pussy.

51   Dan8267   2017 Jan 23, 4:13pm  

bob2356 says

People that have to spend a lot of time telling you how good they are at something aren't.

That's not what the manual does. The fact is that the mating market has changed considerably as a result of men using the Internet to spread knowledge. Gone are the days when women were a mystery. Their behavior is entirely explained by evolutionary psychology, as are men's behavior. The application of evolutionary psychology is Pickup Artistry or PUA. Like it or not, it works.

The Mystery Method particularly works. However, don't think it's an easy way to get laid as it does require time and effort on your part. Basically, it's all mind games, but mind games are just what biologists call mating rituals. You can play them and have sex or act too good to play the game and remain celebrate. Unless you've actually tried these methods, you have no basis to refute them.

Personally, I think the Mystery Method and other PUA techniques are deplorable, but they work. Not 100%, but at least a third of the time, and that's much better than not playing the games. The bottom line is that women still follow Stone Age instinct when it comes to selecting mates, and quite frankly, it's that instinct that is responsible for all the deplorableness in PUA techniques.

Quite frankly, there is nothing in the Mystery Method that hasn't been known for decades. Things like playing hard to get and imposing a false sense of scarcity. However, these techniques weren't all brought together in a nice neat package until after social media took off and men started to look at getting laid as a science instead of an art.

But hey, if you want to poo-poo the red pill and PUA techniques, more pussy for the rest of us.

52   Dan8267   2017 Jan 23, 4:18pm  

MMR says

In fairness to Bob, he is probably stably married for a long time.

My condolences.

53   Dan8267   2017 Jan 23, 4:21pm  

rando says

But I'm entirely convinced that Red Pill theory is actually correct, because it's coherent, logical, and testable.

It's evolutionary psychology. The entire red pill genre came out after two key things: formal research in human evolutionary psychology particularly in the field of sex and the rise of information sharing on forums and social media sites including YouTube. Science advanced and the common man took an interest and had the means to discuss practical applications of it that are important to men. It's not a coincident that red pill came about around 2010.

54   BayArea   2017 Jan 23, 6:41pm  

landtof says

here it is, chris rock monologue:

Sexual harrassment! What is sexual harassment?! What's the difference between sexual harrassment and just being an idiot? I mean, if my father didn't harrass my mother, I wouldn't be here! I mean, I understand some sexual harrassment.. if a man is your boss and says, "Hey, sleep with me, or you're fired." That's sexual harrassment. And that's the only thing that's sexual harrassment! Everything else falls under "Just trying to get laid." You can't put a man in jail for that! I don't care how hard he tries, that's all he was trying to do! Anita Hill started this whole thing. It's all about looks, you know? Because if Clarence Thomas looked like Denzel Washington, this would have never happened! She'd be all, "Oh, stop it, Clarence, you nasty! Your fine self!" So, what's sexual harrassment, when an ugly man wants some? "Oh, he ugly! Call the police! Call the authority!"

bwahahaha so true

55   Automan Empire   2017 Jan 23, 7:34pm  

rando says

@bob2356 Read the sidebar material at https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/ especially the "Theory Reading" section.

I'd never even been on Reddit, but a bit over 2 years ago someone here on Patrick.net mentioned TheRedPill. Long story short it matched my own experiences and observations; I'm now very involved with that community, so thank you whoever brought it up. Obviously biased at this point but I totally second the recommendation.

As for Trump... I think there's going to be a lot of buyer's remorse among his supporters. The people who say "Grab 'em by the pussy" is Trump at his worst are wrong. The real problem is, this is pretty much Trump at his BEST!

56   Patrick   2017 Jan 23, 7:51pm  

Automan Empire says

I'd never even been on Reddit, but a bit over 2 years ago someone here on Patrick.net mentioned TheRedPill. Long story short it matched my own experiences and observations; I'm now very involved with that community, so thank you whoever brought it up. Obviously biased at this point but I totally second the recommendation.

Thanks for the support.

The Red Pill explanation of women's actions seems to simply be factual, not good or bad.

Of course what you decide to do with that knowledge might be good or bad.

57   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 8:30pm  

rando says

bob2356 says

I have much better things to do with my time thank you very much

If there are things that you do not want to know, OK, that's your choice.

I've read the red pill crap. Seems like a lot of whiners and clueless metrosexuals to me. But I'm never trolled bars trying out pickup lines so I may have just not been in the correct crowd of women to appreciate it.

58   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 8:36pm  

Dan8267 says

Quite frankly, there is nothing in the Mystery Method that hasn't been known for decades. Things like playing hard to get and imposing a false sense of scarcity. However, these techniques weren't all brought together in a nice neat package until after social media took off and men started to look at getting laid as a science instead of an art.

If people weren't looking to get laid as a science then there would be no need for red pill/Mystery Method. You don't think women are bright enough to pick up on who is looking to get laid as a science and who is looking to be someone to meet them as equals who appreciate each other?

You guys have your head up the wrong end of the horse.

59   Dan8267   2017 Jan 23, 8:38pm  

bob2356 says

metrosexuals

WTF is wrong with being metrosexual? That means you have good hygiene, smell good, look good, and can dress yourself and not look like a slob.

I'm totally metrosexual.

Yeah, you can totally overdo it, like everything else. But it's a plus to have good grooming habits, know how to dress like a successful adult, and smell nice.

60   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 8:41pm  

Dan8267 says

MMR says

In fairness to Bob, he is probably stably married for a long time.

My condolences.

I go to bed each night with a great looking women 14 years younger who puts md after her name and is a top level skier,sailor, squash player. You go to bed reading a book on how to pick up women by someone who calls himself mystery .

quod erat demonstrandum

61   Dan8267   2017 Jan 23, 8:43pm  

bob2356 says

I go to bed each night with a great looking women 14 years younger

So do I, just not the same one every night.

62   anonymous   2017 Jan 23, 8:43pm  

bob2356 says

Why do you care? Nothing better to do?

bob, go away. even the DNC trolls are more enjoyable than you are.

63   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 8:44pm  

Dan8267 says

WTF is wrong with being metrosexual?

Nothing as long as they are not clueless navel gazers.

64   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 9:09pm  

Dan8267 says

bob2356 says

I go to bed each night with a great looking women 14 years younger

So do I, just not the same one every night.

Whatever floats your boat dude. With your attitudes toward women I can see why it's necessary.

65   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 9:10pm  

landtof says

bob2356 says

Why do you care? Nothing better to do?

bob, go away. even the DNC trolls are more enjoyable than you are.

Couldn't answer the question I see.

66   Patrick   2017 Feb 15, 1:42am  

Heard yet another misquote of this today. Can remember the exact words, but it was a woman being interviewed on NPR about how she would not date any Trump supporters.

And conversely, how there is now a dating site explicitly for Trump supporters: https://trumpsingles.com/

Can't find the exact story on NPR's search site, strangely: http://www.kqed.org/search/index.jsp?cx=016903106374557566950%3A07-zut18mt4&cof=FORID%3A11&q=trumpsingles&sa=

67   Patrick   2017 Feb 15, 8:06am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Guys whining about needing a Tic Tac to tickle a chick's tonsils and furniture shopping is way weirder than the pussy grab stuff.

Not true, all pretty damn normal for straight men.

Lots of guys carry tic tacs for such reasons. And they put up with furniture shopping exactly because they know the women like it.

Trump is far from weird in those respects.

68   Ceffer   2017 Feb 15, 9:40am  

Pwease, Pwease, may I have some pussy? Pwease sign my triplicate consent forms!

69   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Feb 15, 9:47am  

Dan8267 says

dress like a successful adult

Somebody tell Mark Cuban. Guy dresses like a frat boy.

70   Patrick   2017 Feb 15, 9:56am  

Ceffer says

Pwease, Pwease, may I have some pussy? Pwease sign my triplicate consent forms!

So the dilemma for men is:

1. Say pwease pwease and get nothing.
2. Make a judgement about her body language and just go for it or not.

Number 1 is definitely always the losing choice, and is in fact used to weed out weak men, or to figure out which men they can exploit and dump.
Number 2 is dangerous if you go for it, but there is no other way that actually works because of how women are wired. Trump was simply speaking the truth.

What women are demanding is the ability to change the rules on a whim, even retroactively. Pussy grabbing without explicit permission is most definitely allowed if you're rich enough and hot enough. But maybe she will later decide it was actually rape if you don't call her the next day.

Muslims, for all their faults, do have a clear and practical rule conditioned by historical experience. For them, if a woman is voluntarily alone with a man, that's consent. In fact, that was pretty much the rule in all traditional societies. If a woman goes into a guy's tent, or the guy goes into her tent and she does not loudly object, she's consenting.

71   Tenpoundbass   2018 Oct 17, 5:24am  

They did before Fagots convinced everyone they are Victims of life.
Women always said they want a man that takes charge, and they totally meant in that way.

Back when people were cool and Fags were Fags Guys used to fuck the shit out of Girls they just met 10 minutes ago.
The only way you could tell if She was down, was grabbing her pussy.

If She wasn't down with it, she would slap the shit out of you. What you did next defined what just happened.
72   clambo   2018 Oct 17, 8:19am  

If Billy Bush ratted out Trump for his comments, Billy broke the code and he's an asshole.

re: Trump's observation. Of course women not only allow you to do things, they encourage you to if they perceive you as being 1. rich 2. famous 3. both

For a few years I am in a location where there are 1. lots of rich 2. lots of service workers who are female The economy is not as diverse as California by any means.

This has created a funny ecosystem which reminds me of the third world; hot females aren't making much money at work and they try to find a guy who has money. Temporary "relationships" are not a problem for them and they would prefer a sugar daddy if they found one.

I met a female who worked at Home Depot and we went out once. She became drunk and almost too rowdy so I kind of lost interest. She bragged about me to her coworkers. My address was fancy and she said I had dough and was able to spend it freely, etc.

Two of her coworkers contacted me and were both under 25 years old. One was very aggressive sexually towards me.

I wonder what would happen if I were actually famous?

Old anecdote; I once was friends with a guy who looked like the twin of a guy on a TV show. We would go out to bars etc. one summer and the girls all practically ran over to us to talk to him. He was nice looking and it was before the STD scares of the 80's.
73   Evan F.   2018 Oct 17, 11:57am  

Tenpoundbass says
Back when people were cool and Fags were Fags Guys used to fuck the shit out of Girls they just met 10 minutes ago.

What in the actual fuck
74   WookieMan   2018 Oct 17, 12:13pm  

Evan F. says
Tenpoundbass says
Back when people were cool and Fags were Fags Guys used to fuck the shit out of Girls they just met 10 minutes ago.

What in the actual fuck


Gonna agree with Evan here. What in the actual F was just written here?
75   valdeirft   2019 Jul 16, 8:12am  

spam
76   soriano   2019 Jul 16, 8:14am  

spam
77   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jul 16, 8:33am  

Evan F. says
Tenpoundbass says
Back when people were cool and Fags were Fags Guys used to fuck the shit out of Girls they just met 10 minutes ago.

What in the actual fuck


Yep it's true while the girl's were in the the throes of a heated climax and loosening the bedboard screws with their toes, they weren't thinking about the Liberal Soy Boy Fags in 20 or 30 years later. They were yelling "Give it to me GOOD!"

I must have banged the shit out of 100 strangers in my day. I picked up this one girl at a bar and fucked her in her Dad's car in the back parking lot

Fun Times, Fun Times!
78   Goran_K   2019 Jul 16, 8:39am  

Trump is getting flack from beta males who think joining femi-nazis will get them laid.

The truth is, and anyone who has experienced this knows the truth, if a woman thinks you're wealthy, and you're not a fat slob who eats a salad and walks for about an hour day, you can gain pretty easy access to white collar professional pussy. Not hookers, not escorts, but legit $150,000/year women who are not bad looking, we're talking 7s and 8s all day long.

Yes they will let you grab it, usually in the privacy of a hotel room, and yes they will let you stick it in their ass. Before I got married, I had a head count of at least 10 in New York alone and that was far before my financial prime.
79   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jul 16, 9:01am  

Shyyyyyiiit! You didn't need to be rich or have a good job, if the Woman had a good job. There was a point in the late 80's and early 90's some career White Collar women went for Blue Collar men. Women that had money or a well paid career that went on about how they were looking for a man that made a lot of money as well. Was a bigger turn off to me than a woman that did not make much money and longed for a big bread winner.

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