Please log in to view images

« prev   random   next »

0
4

illegal immigrants pay billions in taxes

By tovarichpeter follow tovarichpeter   2017 Mar 2, 11:21am 6,754 views   71 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/03/02/report-undocumented-immigrants-in-the-u-s-contribute-billions-in-local-and-state-taxes/

In this file photo, participants in the “Day Without Immigrants,” hold the Mexican flag, while Mexica Yolotl, a traditional Aztec group of Mexico-Americans dancers and drummers from the Twin Cities perform near the Minnesota State Capitol Thursday, Feb. 16, 2017, in St. Paul, Minn.

« First    « Previous    Comments 4 - 43 of 43    Last »

32   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Mar 3, 10:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rando says

Maybe you're a closet Georgist and just haven't realized it yet.

33   someone else   ignore (0)   2017 Mar 3, 11:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Excellent.

34   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Mar 3, 3:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dan8267 says

indigenous says

You trust Fox to get facts rights?!?!?!?! Fox is the mother of all fake news outlets.

If it were CNN or MSNBC, would you believe it? Fact is, no liberal media will report this because it doesn't fit their narrative.

By the way, the data came from the Heritage Foundation, not Fox News.

35   missing   ignore (1)   2017 Mar 3, 3:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dan8267 says

Buildings are cheap to raise nowadays. It's the land that is expensive, and land is expensive for two reasons.

I don't think it is the land per se what is expensive. I see townhouses with no yards selling for $800K and above - not much less than houses (older but bigger) with nice lots.

I suspect the regulations make the development process expensive and the profit margins of the developers are fat too.

36   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Mar 3, 4:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

just any guy says

If it were CNN or MSNBC, would you believe it?

Personally, I like to have multiple independent verification. That said, nothing on Fox can be at all trusted. You have to assume they are lying because that is the far most common case.

just any guy says

Fact is, no liberal media will report this because it doesn't fit their narrative.

You mean leftist media. There is no liberal media.

And as bad and political as MSNBC and CNN are, at least they don't outright lie about things. Fox News does.

just any guy says

By the way, the data came from the Heritage Foundation, not Fox News.

The Heritage Foundation is a propaganda machine. And even if it were not, Fox News would misreport information from legitimate sources as well.

Now I'm not saying that the statistic is wrong. After all, even a broken clock is right sometimes. However, I have absolutely no reason to believe it is in any way truthful or accurate. Call it the boy who cried wolf syndrome. When a group lies constantly, even the true things they say cannot be believed, and if no one else is saying that truth, then that truth is not accepted. There are practical costs to lying, namely you don't get believed even when the truth supports your position.

37   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Mar 3, 4:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FP says

I don't think it is the land per se what is expensive.

It is where I live.

38   missing   ignore (1)   2017 Mar 3, 4:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dan8267 says

It is where I live.

Boca Raton? So if you compare townhouses with similar size detached houses, how much is the difference?

39   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Mar 3, 4:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FP says

Boca Raton? So if you compare townhouses with similar size detached houses, how much is the difference?

Disregarding the whole country club factor, townhouses cost about half as much as detached houses and have about half as much land usage.

Both are way overpriced.

40   missing   ignore (1)   2017 Mar 3, 5:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dan8267 says

Disregarding the whole country club factor, townhouses cost about half as much as detached houses and have about half as much land usage.

I see. This confirms my observation about the SFBA - the numbers here are very different.

41   marcus   ignore (11)   2017 Mar 3, 6:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Do you have any idea just how worthless this is ? Even if it's true ?

Am I to infer that it's 5 people getting an average of 24K in welfare, and 20 million paying the 10K in taxes ?

Obviously it's not the same people doing both.

.
.

indigenous says

42   indigenous   ignore (0)   2017 Mar 3, 6:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says

Am I to infer that it's 5 people getting an average of 24K in welfare, and 20 million paying the 10K in taxes ?

Yes

Consider school costs, medical service, section 8 housing, WIC, the fact that many claim 8 dependents so they get 100% of withholding back.

43   indigenous   ignore (0)   2017 Mar 3, 7:07pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

marcus says

No, that's you're way of framing it.

Nope, I'm "framing" it the way it is.

34% Of the nation’s welfare recipients live in California but only …

12%… of the U.S. population resides here.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sdut-welfare-capital-of-the-us-2012jul28-htmlstory.html

« First    « Previous    Comments 4 - 43 of 43    Last »


about   best comments   contact   one year ago   suggestions