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1   komputodo   2017 Mar 29, 9:09am  

I was told that they really are a gentle breed and that chihuahuas are much more dangerous.

2   HEY YOU   2017 Mar 29, 9:17am  

The dog probably thought it's owner was a RIGHTWINGNUT & incapable of not doing the same stupid shit over & over.
The dog was just putting him out of his misery.

3   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Mar 29, 9:22am  

The guy sounds like a real winner.

The order prevented anyone but the occupier entering for three months and was intended to stop people taking drugs or otherwise engaging in anti-social behaviour on the premises.

4   Shaman   2017 Mar 29, 9:57am  

YesYNot says

The guy sounds like a real winner.

In my experience, a disproportionate number of pit bull owners are such "winners." Black ghetto and white trash mostly, followed by some Latinos with visions of thughood and the odd puppy lover willing to rescue these dogs when they wind up disproportionately represented at the pound.

Chihuahuas do bite a lot. But it's not the kind of bite that either maims or kills or even seriously inconvences the bitten.

5   NuttBoxer   2017 Mar 29, 10:30am  

Tenpoundbass says

How's that pitbull working out for you? Pit bull owners deserve this.

You've never owned a pit bull right? My brother in law has several. We watched one of the last pups he had to give away, a very sweet dog. He has an older one he's keeping, sounds like a pig when he snores, also very sweet. The parents are a bit jumpy, because he doesn't train them, but even when I've rough-housed with them, never had any worry of a problem.

Dog breeds have nothing to do with temperament. Humans are to blame.

6   RWSGFY   2017 Mar 29, 10:44am  

NuttBoxer says

Dog breeds have nothing to do with temperament. Humans are to blame.

Are you sure? Temperament is one of the important traits of a breed. Properly bred representatives of a certain breed do have similar temperaments. Breed temperaments also change over time as preferences change. For example, not so long ago Doberman Pinschers were "jumpy" and overly aggressive but now this has been pretty much bred out of them and the breed a whole is much more mellow.

7   Tenpoundbass   2017 Mar 29, 10:48am  

NuttBoxer says

You've never owned a pit bull right? My brother in law has several. We watched one of the last pups he had to give away, a very sweet dog.

Oh I know they are sweet hearts real peaches, until they aren't.
Then their instincts kick in, and they do what they were bred to do. Bull Baiting by the throat.
Maybe you got a sweet one, I'm not taking my chances on getting a nice one. You only one shot when they aren't so nice.
They have no business in urban settings they should be banned unless live in rural areal. 1 acre lots or bigger.

8   Tenpoundbass   2017 Mar 29, 10:53am  

Straw Man says

For example, not so long ago Doberman Pinschers were "jumpy" and overly aggressive but now this has been pretty much bred out of them and the breed a whole is much more mellow.

I've noticed that too with Dobermans, but the thing is when a Doberman attacked or a group of them for that matter. They just bit you in the ass real good, they pretty much just quick bite and release jabs anywhere they can nick you. I was attacked by 3 when I 9. It scared the shit out of me, today they would call it traumatized for life.
And I had a few superficial punctures on less than 20% of the bites. The point is I survived. I have never heard of a 9 year old being mauled by 3 Pit Bulls and it ending with the boy running home crying.

You're right though, Dobermans are not as vicious or jumpy. Those dogs actually jumped a fence to get me. Today they are fatter and lazy than the lean bastards they were then.

9   NuttBoxer   2017 Mar 29, 10:53am  

Straw Man says

Are you sure? Temperament is one of the important traits of a breed.

I think temperament is the wrong word, instinct is probably better. All dogs have the instinct to hunt, even small breeds. But dogs are not killers unless we train them to be. Owner emotional state also plays a large role in how a dog acts. Watch some of the Caesar Milan shows sometime. He gives some good perspective not normally considered.

10   Tenpoundbass   2017 Mar 29, 10:54am  

Caesar Milan has a camera crew and camps out for weeks to get the shot.

11   NuttBoxer   2017 Mar 29, 10:55am  

So you've investigated the problem dogs he's rehabbed, and found them to still be biters, or whatever?

12   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Mar 29, 11:55am  

Straw Man says

Are you sure? Temperament is one of the important traits of a breed.

Another part of it is the owners that tend to have each type of breed and how they see the dog. One reason that small dogs will bite as well as bark is that their owners usually laugh and coddle the dog when it is scared and barking. They are training the dog to be an aggressive little fuck.

13   RWSGFY   2017 Mar 29, 12:13pm  

NuttBoxer says

I think temperament is the wrong word, instinct is probably better. All dogs have the instinct to hunt, even small breeds. But dogs are not killers unless we train them to be. Owner emotional state also plays a large role in how a dog acts. Watch some of the Caesar Milan shows sometime. He gives some good perspective not normally considered.

I personally blame uncontrolled breeding. If only the dogs who can absorb proper training and demonstrate desired temperament were allowed to breed these overly-aggressive uncontrollable dogs would not be around. Remember, dogs are purely artificial creations. We, the humans, made the wolf into the dog by breeding ones with desired traits and culling the ones with undesired.

14   Indiana Jones   2017 Mar 29, 12:20pm  

NuttBoxer says

Dog breeds have nothing to do with temperament. Humans are to blame.

That is what all pitbull owners say about their dogs prior to the dog attacking or killing either them or another person. The story is always the same -- the dog was always so calm and sweet, the dog has never hurt anyone, etc. Until the dog does.

I had just moved out of Pacifica when a pregnant woman was killed by her pitt bull in 2011. I did not know her.

http://blog.dogsbite.org/2013/08/father-of-darla-napora-killed-by-pet-pit-bull-writes-letter.html

I have tried not to say anything but, every time there is a pit bull attack Darla’s name comes up. People commenting about whom they think she was and what happened to explain away the simple fact that a pit bull killed her. HER PIT BULL KILLED HER.
People have said “She was white trash and that she must have abused her dog.” or “She fell off a ladder and the dog didn’t attack -- it only was trying to awaken her.” and “Her husband trained the dog to attack Darla.” I also heard she left Yakima because they outlawed pit bulls. In reality, Darla had been living in the Bay Area several years before she decided she had the time and the room to have pets.
Prior to her marriage, Darla adopted a female pit bull and became a member of a local pit bull group that advocated against the bad rap that they always fell into. Darla exercised, trained and loved her dog while providing a good home.
After marriage, Darla’s husband wanted a male pit bull and one was rescued. This pit bull was larger than average and for some reason, they chose not to neuter. Darla’s husband came home for lunch and found Darla dead, her neck torn open and the male standing over her. Darla’s dog was in the corner of another room. Cowering and had urinated on the floor. This was the end of Darla’s life and she was pregnant with her first baby. Two lives ended BECAUSE of a pit bull.
I became Darla’s Dad when she was about four years old. She played basketball and soccer in school. It was a joy watching her grow up and become an adult. When she turned 18, she asked me to formally adopt her and I did.
Darla was raised around horses, cattle and pigs as well as dogs and cats. Darla always treated animals with dignity, respect and love. Everyone loved Darla. She was a genuine good person through and through.
Darla was so happy when she called to tell me she was going to have my grand baby. She sent me sonogram images and audio from the baby’s heartbeat. Yes, I still have all of the pictures and audio plus her texts, emails and her phone number in my phone.
Darla’s baby shower was 1 month away when she died. She was planning on flying up to Seattle for it. I had just sent her a crib. Darla was 32 years old; she took her time and planned everything. This was the most exciting time in her life. We, as a family were just as excited.
I can only imagine the shock and horror that she felt. She honestly believed in the pit bull. I have always had dogs. I have 3 now. I have never trusted a pit bull. I know why.
Darla is always in my heart. I think of her every day. I am deeply, deeply saddened by this tragedy. It seems almost worse because it was preventable. My mind goes down the “what if” path very often.
I love Darla and I miss her.

-Doug Robinson

15   MMR   2017 Mar 29, 12:28pm  

Sorry to hear about your loss Doug

16   lostand confused   2017 Mar 29, 12:47pm  

Pit bulls have the hardware to do massive damage and even death. One should treat them accordingly. Unlike retreivers, they were bred for an entirely different purpose.

17   Tenpoundbass   2017 Mar 29, 1:31pm  

You Pit Bull owners walking your dog in a residential neighborhood, and that guy drives by and looks at you like you are a first class Moron?

Yeah! That was ME!

18   curious2   2017 Mar 29, 2:46pm  

Very few breeds of dogs are known for killing people. Such dogs do not belong in densely populated areas.

People in SF have been mauled to death by pit bulls and presa canarias. A pit bull owner said she had "no regrets about" the day her dogs killed her son.

I've seen pit bulls even in very nice neighborhoods, possibly adopted by identitarian "liberals" trying to prove "rehabilitation" or "nurture over nature." Walking along the sidewalk one day, I happened to pass a male pitbull that had been staring intently at a female farther down the block. The owners were out walking their dogs, on leash, and on opposite sides of the sidewalk, at least 10 meters apart. The only way for me to continue toward my destination was to walk between them, passing first the male and then the female. When I crossed the male's field of view, he barked and snarled and lunged at me with such force that the owner could barely restrain him. If the dog had been off leash, or if the owner had been smaller or weaker, the situation could have ended very badly. Many vagrants have pitbulls off leash, with no accountability at all: you can't even identify which pit bull stuck a snout into your crotch, or which vagrant might have owned it, and even other dog owners feel scared that they and their dogs might get attacked. This is part of the price we pay for identitarian "liberals" who insist on signaling altruistic "virtue" rather than protecting the community from harm: actual liberals can't even walk on the sidewalk without risking their lives.

The Constitution protects people's right to keep and bear arms, but no one has a Constitutional right to bring dangerous animals into a densely populated area. Owners who defend dangerous animals as "sweet" (to them, so far) cherish a delusional fantasy, and avoid cognitive dissonance by turning a blind eye to actual behavior that everyone else can see. The owner of the pit bull that tried to attack me has probably forgotten that incident and countless others, but when you're walking along the sidewalk and experience something like that, it turns your head around. I've never seen a retriever behave that way, and a chihuahua can't realistically do the sort of damage that a pit bull can. There isn't a Constitutional right to harbor a dangerous animal in a densely populated area, putting neighbors and their children in harm's way.

19   Tenpoundbass   2017 Mar 29, 6:38pm  

I would upvote that twice if I could.

20   BayArea   2018 Mar 28, 8:55am  

curious2 says
I've seen pit bulls even in very nice neighborhoods, possibly adopted by identitarian "liberals" trying to prove "rehabilitation" or "nurture over nature."


Reminds me of a girl I knew from HS who only dated black guys to qualify her as a more credible liberal lol.
21   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 28, 9:07am  

curious2 says
I've seen pit bulls even in very nice neighborhoods, possibly adopted by identitarian "liberals" trying to prove "rehabilitation" or "nurture over nature." Walking along the sidewalk one day, I happened to pass a male pitbull that had been staring intently at a female farther down the block. The owners were out walking their dogs, on leash, and on opposite sides of the sidewalk, at least 10 meters apart. The only way for me to continue toward my destination was to walk between them, passing first the male and then the female. When I crossed the male's field of view, he barked and snarled and lunged at me with such force that the owner could barely restrain him. If the dog had been off leash, or if the owner had been smaller or weaker, the situation could have ended very badly. Many vagrants have pitbulls off leash, with no accountability at all: you can't even identify which pit bull stuck a snout into your crotch, or which vagrant might have owned it, and even other dog owners feel sc...


Wow. I agree with you that pit bulls have no place in densely populated areas, but why in the world you choose to somehow bring politics and liberals into this is bizarre.

Do you have any reason to believe that liberals own pit bulls at a rate higher than conservatives? I would bet it's the complete opposite. My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.

But, I have no data so I wouldn't include that in a post about the problems with the pit bull breed... Not sure why you feel the need to do so?
22   MrMagic   2018 Mar 28, 9:30am  

HappyGilmore says
My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.


HappyGilmore says
But, I have no data


Oh boy.....

and you would be wrong.

Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.
23   BayArea   2018 Mar 28, 9:32am  

Conservatives owning pit bulls? I'm sure it's happened before.
24   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 28, 9:48am  

Sniper says

Oh boy.....

and you would be wrong.

Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.


Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..
25   BayArea   2018 Mar 28, 9:54am  

HappyGilmore says
Sniper says

Oh boy.....

and you would be wrong.

Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.


Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..


Isn't that what you did above?

HappyGilmore says
My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.
26   RWSGFY   2018 Mar 28, 10:02am  

BayArea says
HappyGilmore says
Sniper says

Oh boy.....

and you would be wrong.

Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.


Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..


Isn't that what you did above?

HappyGilmore says
My guess is that there is a strong correlation between gun nut, NRA loving Trump supporters and pit bull owners.


Why would a person who has a legal access to a gun want an agressive dog? For self-defense? But this is what the gun is for.

It's the convicted felons on probation who want an agressive animal as a substitute for a gun they are prohibited from owning. And these are 100% ACLU-loving Democrat supportes, as would be my guess.
27   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 28, 10:04am  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Why would a person who has a legal access to a gun want an agressive dog? For self-defense? But this is what the gun is for.


You'd have to ask him/her, I don't know.

Why would someone need 15 guns? For self defense? I know lots of people that own that many.
28   FortWayne   2018 Mar 28, 10:08am  

guns don't kill people, they are just objects.

pit bulls on the other hand, are animals that murder anything that upsets them. owning one is almost as stupid as owning a tiger in the house, sooner or later you'll be eaten.
29   RWSGFY   2018 Mar 28, 10:09am  

HappyGilmore says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Why would a person who has a legal access to a gun want an agressive dog? For self-defense? But this is what the gun is for.


You'd have to ask him/her, I don't know.

Why would someone need 15 guns? For self defense? I know lots of people that own that many.


15 guns don't give you any more trouble than 1 gun. They mostly sit in the safe collecting dust. An agressive dog, on the other hand, is a fucking trouble. And accident waiting to happen. So I wouldn't say that owning 1 gun and one Pit is the same as owning two guns. Because unlike a gun, the fucking dog has a mind of his own and can act independently of the will of the owner.
30   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 28, 10:10am  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says

15 guns don't give you any more trouble than 1 gun. They mostly sit in the safe collecting dust. An agressive dog, on the other hand, is a fucking trouble. And accident waiting to happen. So I wouldn't say that owning 1 gun and one Pit is the same as owning two guns. Because unlike a gun, the fucking dog has a mind of his own and can act independently of the will of the owner.


I wouldn't say they're the same either. But clearly people own guns and dogs for reasons other than self defense.
31   RWSGFY   2018 Mar 28, 10:13am  

HappyGilmore says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says

15 guns don't give you any more trouble than 1 gun. They mostly sit in the safe collecting dust. An agressive dog, on the other hand, is a fucking trouble. And accident waiting to happen. So I wouldn't say that owning 1 gun and one Pit is the same as owning two guns. Because unlike a gun, the fucking dog has a mind of his own and can act independently of the will of the owner.


I wouldn't say they're the same either. But clearly people own guns and dogs for reasons other than self defense.


No argument here. It's just with agressive dogs, the reasons for own the fucking animal are very narrow: dog fights, protection of a person or proprty, maybe hunting wild pigs ... and that's about it. And even fot the personal protection I would rather own something more controllable and trainable than a Pit.
32   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 28, 10:16am  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says

No argument here. It's just with agressive dogs, the reasons for own the fucking animal are very narrow: dog fights, protection of a person or proprty, maybe hunting wild pigs ... and that's about it.


And because it makes them feel tough.
33   RWSGFY   2018 Mar 28, 10:19am  

HappyGilmore says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says

No argument here. It's just with agressive dogs, the reasons for own the fucking animal are very narrow: dog fights, protection of a person or proprty, maybe hunting wild pigs ... and that's about it.


And because it makes them feel tough.


Yeah, thugs from the 'hood need that, sure.
34   MrMagic   2018 Mar 28, 10:56am  

HappyGilmore says
Sniper says

Oh boy.....

and you would be wrong.

Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.


Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..


Yep, unlike you I have data, I belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.

How's that for data?
35   MrMagic   2018 Mar 28, 10:58am  

HappyGilmore says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Why would a person who has a legal access to a gun want an agressive dog? For self-defense? But this is what the gun is for.


You'd have to ask him/her, I don't know.

Why would someone need 15 guns? For self defense? I know lots of people that own that many.


I own 8 to 10 power drills. a different tool for a different job.
36   BayArea   2018 Mar 28, 11:00am  

Sniper says
HappyGilmore says
Sniper says

Oh boy.....

and you would be wrong.

Most gun nuts have hunting type dogs, like Retrievers, which are extremely friendly.


Good---I'm sure you have data to back it up then, right? Because you'd be a fool to state I'm wrong without it..


Yep, unlike you I have data, I belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.

How's that for data?


Anecdotal.
37   NuttBoxer   2018 Mar 28, 11:03am  

komputodo says
I was told that they really are a gentle breed and that chihuahuas are much more dangerous.


In my experience Chihuahuas are definitely more aggressive, although "stand-offish" is probably a better way to put it. Pit bulls are much friendlier. My brother-in-law has two that he raised from puppies, both sweat-hearts, although the mother is a different story. Although if he walked her, she would probably be better behaved.
38   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 28, 12:43pm  

Sniper says
Yep, unlike you I have data, I belong to gun forums and the topic of dogs comes all the time and all the members have posted pictures of their dogs. guess what, i haven't seen a single pit bull.

How's that for data?


Nope--not data. Try again.
39   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 28, 12:44pm  

Sniper says
I own 8 to 10 power drills. a different tool for a different job.


Obviously--several of their jobs is to make it seem like you have a bigger package.
40   Goran_K   2018 Mar 28, 4:05pm  

Tatupu, let's keep things clean and not personal. I had to nuke one of your comments. You can make your point without insulting someone's "comprehension" or intelligence. Thanks.

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