2017 Dec 16, 9:52pm
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Nobody complains about the lack of diversity in China
China is composed of many ethnic backgrounds, but I guess they all look alike to you, and that's all that matters.
Again, 92% of Chinese are Han People.
Japan is perhaps even more homogeneous than China
You do realize that this only means they are descendants of people who lived in the Han dynasty, an empire that conquered countless ethnic groups. It's like saying that 92% of the people in the United States are Americans.
China in a huge area, far bigger than Europe. and even bigger than the US when comparing land area. It's population is ancient and most of its history is from times when people simply could not move around a lot and were very isolated. Common sense alone would say that their population would be genetically diverse.
And did you know that the Germans are actually a combination of various ethnic groups and that under a few centuries ago, there were at least 3 major versions of German?
This is dancing around the point. 92% of Chinese are Han Chinese, consider themselves Han Chinese, have a unified culture, offical language, values, et/c.
The point is that China and Japan are amazingly non-diverse.
Therefore, diversity is not necessarily the magic potion it's advertised to be.
That may be your point, but it is not supported by a genetic argument. My point is that their gene pool is diverse, at least as far as human gene pools are, and for obvious reasons.
True, but neither is the tribalism and racial bonds advertised by the right. Nonetheless, I'll take a society with a free market of ideas over a homogeneous one any day.
In my experience, among Asians, many, many Chinese consistently boast about two things: their superior genes and their super secret and lethal Kung Fu.Funny because they are known for in the world not for innovations
Chinese consistently boast about two things: their superior genes and their super secret and lethal Kung Fu.
Not sure what you mean by "magic potion" here or how it is even relevant. The fact is that diversity exists. How you choose to deal with it is a different issue.
alpo saysNot sure what you mean by "magic potion" here or how it is even relevant. The fact is that diversity exists. How you choose to deal with it is a different issue.Of course diversity exists. The point of contention is how much? The point is also that very homogenuous societies right now are among the world's most dynamic, and many "diverse" countries are hellholes with constant warfare, famine, and disease.i read a Sociological Paper from the Classic Era (when science, not autoethnography, ruled) that perceptions of Trust, Corruption, and Good Order declined when minorities exceeded 15% in a city.The idea that Diversity fuels progress/dynamism is highly debatable.
Are you sure have the correlation/causation correct?Could you also say that the dynamic societies are largely secular, democratic socialist, while the hell holes are strongly religious Conservatives?
Likewise, the tiny city-state of Singapore cramming numerous different ethnic groups (Muslim Malays, Chinese and Hindus) into a tiny area less than 1/3 of Rhode Island, yet people there don't run around killing each other or burning down neighborhoods due to "racism."
In the book, Mr Lee, when asked to assess the progress of multiracialism in Singapore, said: “I have to speak candidly to be of value, but I do not wish to offend the Muslim community. “I think we were progressing very nicely until the surge of Islam came, and if you asked me for my observations, the other communities have easier integration - friends, intermarriages and so on, Indians with Chinese, Chinese with Indians - than Muslims. That’s the result of the surge from the Arab states.” He added: “I would say today, we can integrate all religions and races except Islam.” He also said: “I think the Muslims socially do not cause any trouble, but they are distinct and separate.”
It is not the fault of Native American and African Americans to be in USA
The idea that Diversity fuels progress/dynamism is highly debatable.
n the 19th Century, the British Population of India was a fraction of 1%, yet huge amounts of technical knowledge was transferred. Vice-versa was true with Religious/Cultural info from India. We have no record of a Europeans in 14th Century China or vice-versa in any quantity, yet Gunpowder. Humphrey Davies, Lavoissier, etc. never left Western Europe. You don't need physical presence to exchange information.
If you are trying to say that the world has largely lived in isolation, then the facts simply don't support that. Europeans, in particular, are hardly what you would consider "isolationists"
I'm refuting the idea that the world has always been a melting pot of ethnicities, and only melting pot areas had massive bursts of intellectual/literary achievement.
but there was hardly a Subcontinental to be found in the UK. Absolutely fractional compared to the numbers of South Asians there today.
It has been and also has not been a melting pot - depends on what time period and place you look at.
There are many sub-continentals living in UK and for atleast 100+ years. There are populations of Europeans living in India, Hong Kong, Singapore, China, and South-east asia for centuries. They decided to stay back when the British left.
Native American culture still survives in US with many whitest of white people claiming native american ancestry, etc.
Western Europe also went through time period of massive waves of immigration which changed its culture and population permanently
All of these groups were neighbors that had been trading for millennia. But never did Indonesians conquer Ireland.
This policy is backed by an outer party of useful idiots, SJWs, who are "third worlders" that believe in decolonialism and have created a racist ideology that Whites (representatives of the most successful civilization in History, the Post 16th Century European) are innately racist, and while Africa must be for Africans and Asia for the Asians, Europe and North
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