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If you honestly believe in Socialism

By Tenpoundbass follow Tenpoundbass   2018 Jan 22, 2:29pm 6,368 views   40 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Do you honestly have faith in the Globalist Socialists and Liberals that are in leadership today to Usher Your Socialist Utopia in to fruition?

If so explain how you think that, they had over 16 years to make an honest go of it, and all of they have done is turned every 1st world nation into a Shithole country.
Would you fancy Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schummer as head of America in an America that would be the Socialist leader of the Liberal Nations?
Or are we supposed to be a bottom tier nation what is your end game?
1   justme   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 22, 3:07pm     ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

This is a typical example of a a patnet post that has no value. It is purely rhetorical trollery, with a solid dose of strawman.
2   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 22, 7:00pm     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
If you honestly believe in Socialism


As much as I believe in the Tooth Fairy.
3   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 22, 7:09pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Tenpoundbass says
If you honestly believe in Socialism


As much as I believe in the Tooth Fairy.


At least the Tooth Fairy does not promise something for nothing. No enamel = no coin.
4   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 22, 7:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says

As much as I believe in the Tooth Fairy.


At least the Tooth Fairy does not promise something for nothing. No enamel = no coin.


Actually, the tooth fairy owes me a quarter. I will never forgive her.
5   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 22, 7:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

"bottom tier nation"
That's where Trump & Republicans are taking us.

Damn Republicans & their Constitution!
In the first sentence :"common","Welfare","ourselves".
Sounds like Leftwing Socialism.
6   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 22, 7:36pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

anon_e3485 says
"bottom tier nation"
That's where Trump & Republicans are taking us.


I'll believe it if we have a 1929 depression again.
7   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 23, 7:05am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Tenpoundbass says
If you honestly believe in Socialism


As much as I believe in the Tooth Fairy.


People who claim we are a Capitalist nation, sure were begging with both lips to be bailed out by Socialism in 2008.

Bizarre
8   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 23, 7:06am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

anonymous says


Yea but foxnews, alex jones and wetfart.com tho
9   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 23, 7:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Instead of socialist maybe you should use "free loader" instead. One does not equal the other.
10   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 23, 7:59am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Yea butt pure socialism/communism blarg blarp. Me love Trump. Git Clinton she bad vary bad oh lord pray for this country protect me from the libruls and all those tranny’s with their big, juicy cocks!

Amen
11   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 23, 8:48am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

errc says
Strategist says
Tenpoundbass says
If you honestly believe in Socialism


As much as I believe in the Tooth Fairy.


People who claim we are a Capitalist nation, sure were begging with both lips to be bailed out by Socialism in 2008.

Bizarre


That's part of capitalism. Government interference when required, government butting out when not needed.
12   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 23, 8:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says


Ha ha. Nice cartoon. But not reality.
13   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2018 Jan 23, 9:20am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

When they have to censor you, you are no longer debating. You are Winning!
14   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 23, 9:43am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
errc says
Strategist says
Tenpoundbass says
If you honestly believe in Socialism


As much as I believe in the Tooth Fairy.


People who claim we are a Capitalist nation, sure were begging with both lips to be bailed out by Socialism in 2008.

Bizarre


That's part of capitalism. Government interference when required, government butting out when not needed.


Holy shit lololol
15   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 23, 10:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

That's part of capitalism.


Socializing the losses is part of capitalism?

More people should have done time and suffered their losses. That's CAPITALISM!

HOW DO WE KNOW SIMILAR SHIT AIN'T HAPPENING NOW?

All it takes is a bad move or two and boom the economy is shit again.
16   Shaman   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 23, 10:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Socialism makes a country run smoothly and raises living and working standards for everyone.
However, you need a Social Contract which encourages people to do their best for the society as a whole. Without that, your socialist system merely incentivizes your citizens to mooch off its bounty instead of producing said bounty, and pretty soon you run out of money.

Also,
You absolutely can’t extend socialism outside ones own national borders, or it becomes a “free lunch” with a never ending line of takers that you’ll never be able to pay the tab.
Inviting too many leeches breaks the social contract and thus the social system.

American socialism would be fine if it operated along these tenets.
HOWEVER: a certain political party has seen an easy path towards getting votes from people they directly support. So they encourage the social contract to be as loose and insubstantial as possible while inviting hordes of foreigners to mooch off the system as well, while illegally enabling said foreigners to vote blue.

This is why we must hate on Democrats until they change their ways. It’s not that socialism is bad. It’s that their DISHONEST and CROOKED ways have broken it for everyone!!!
17   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 23, 12:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says:

However, you need a Social Contract which encourages people to do their best for the society as a whole

If you had such a Social Contract then any system would work. Unfortunately, we ain't all like the Amish.
18   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2018 Jan 23, 4:28pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

BAO, that suggestive graphic you posted would only be poignantly insightful if Government Owned businesses raised the capital to pay for those things.
That is not the case, I paid a shit load of taxes for it. So did millions of other people. Socialists don't now get to claim rights to all of those roads, just because Obama constructed a well worded divisional rhetoric. Obama lied the Government didn't build Shit, we the people voted in politicians that promised they would wisely spend our tax dollars to provide 1st world infrastructure. It's a Capitalism contract between citizens and government of a Democrat Republic. And your first thing doesn't even make sense, people would still listen to the radio if it wasn't regulated. Infact Obama and Bush fucked up FM radio and gave our airwaves away. It didn't belong to them to give away. Thank GOD Trump took our Internet back Obama tried to give away.

Also nobody asked Bush to bail out auto companies. As for our public educators they are this close to being ran out of town by a lynch Mob for undermining our traditions and values.
19   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 23, 5:21pm     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

anon_13ce6 says
Strategist says

That's part of capitalism.


Socializing the losses is part of capitalism?

More people should have done time and suffered their losses. That's CAPITALISM!


The cost of the bailouts will eventually be paid from tax collections that our capitalist system generates. Nothing socialistic there.
21   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2018 Feb 17, 5:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If that were to scale with each other, Venezuela would be smaller than Rode Island.
22   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 6:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says


Venezuela would obviously win. It's a no brainer. But they lost, I wonder why?
Maybe the socialists like Hey You, Jazz, Dan can enlighten us.
23   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 17, 7:54pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
all of they have done is turned every 1st world nation into a Shithole country.


Strategist says
Maybe the socialists like Hey You, Jazz, Dan can enlighten us.


Maybe people should enlighten themselves as to what socialism means. Simply calling any type of government function socialism is just stupid. Seems that capitalists never mind government/socialism that benefits them, only government/socialism that benefits other people bothers them. Want to know who spent the most money and effort lobbying for the bank bailouts? The uber libertarian Koch brothers organization. I guess losing billions in the stock market gives you a certain moral flexibility (kudos to John Cusak in Grosse Point Blank) in your libertarian values.

Really incompetent and/or maniac leaders have ruined many countries capitalist or socialist. Bad leadership like chavez or mubarak (egypt was quite capitalist when mubarak took over) can destroy any country. Simply seizing private property then giving it to your friends and cronies to run into the ground while they are sending huge amounts money to swiss banks isn't socialism no matter how much someone calls it socialism.

Perhaps TPB could enlighten us as to which 1st world countries he has visited that he found to be shitholes. The ones I've visited the last few years are doing very well. I wouldn't want to live in a true socialist country, with no private property, but the 1st world social democracies are almost all very good places that I would (and have) live in no problem at all. . .
24   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2018 Feb 17, 8:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says

Maybe people should enlighten themselves as to what socialism means


No I don't need to be Libsplained on 1billon dead people and counting.

My kind loses out in Socialist societies, I end up in the mass graves. I'll go down fighting when we turn Socialist.
I don't know what you Utopia you think you have planned, but no it wont be warm and fuzzie it will be the violent hell on earth it always is. I'm talking some bitches with me before I go down though.

Perhaps it is you that should educate yourself on Socialism.

None of this matters, Trump is saving us from any of this so don't worry we're all safe for now.
25   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 17, 8:09pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
bob2356 says

Maybe people should enlighten themselves as to what socialism means


No I don't need to be Libsplained on 1billon dead people and counting.

My kind loses out in Socialist societies, I end up in the mass graves. I'll go down fighting when we turn Socialist.
I don't know what you Utopia you think you have planned, but no it wont be warm and fuzzie it will be the violent hell on earth it always is. I'm talking some bitches with me before I go down though.

Perhaps it is you that should educate yourself on Socialism.

None of this matters, Trump is saving us from any of this so don't worry we're all safe for now.


Please don’t do anything drastic
26   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 17, 8:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says

My kind loses out in Socialist societies, I end up in the mass graves. I'll go down fighting when we turn Socialist.
I don't know what you Utopia you think you have planned, but no it wont be warm and fuzzie it will be the violent hell on earth it always is. I'm talking some bitches with me before I go down though.


Which first world countries have you have been visiting exactly?

So you are saying you don't use any of those socialist roads, police, fire, schools, internet, electricity, sewer, water, air travel, courts, military protection, homeland security, food inspections, regulation of toxic waste, etec. etc. then?
27   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 8:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says
Maybe the socialists like Hey You, Jazz, Dan can enlighten us.


Maybe people should enlighten themselves as to what socialism means. Simply calling any type of government function socialism is just stupid.

That is true, which is why we should compare countries that tend towards socialism, versus countries that trend towards capitalism, to compare the differences as it affects the common man.
28   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 17, 8:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Tenpoundbass says

My kind loses out in Socialist societies, I end up in the mass graves. I'll go down fighting when we turn Socialist.
I don't know what you Utopia you think you have planned, but no it wont be warm and fuzzie it will be the violent hell on earth it always is. I'm talking some bitches with me before I go down though.


Which first world countries have you have been visiting exactly?

So you are saying you don't use any of those socialist roads, police, fire, schools, internet, electricity, sewer, water, air travel, courts, military protection, homeland security, food inspections, regulation of toxic waste, etec. etc. then?


don't confuse government services we paid for via our taxes with socialism. in socialism people starve to death, in capitalism people overproduce. i'd rather stay on the overproduction side of the coin.
29   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 8:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Tenpoundbass says

My kind loses out in Socialist societies, I end up in the mass graves. I'll go down fighting when we turn Socialist.
I don't know what you Utopia you think you have planned, but no it wont be warm and fuzzie it will be the violent hell on earth it always is. I'm talking some bitches with me before I go down though.


Which first world countries have you have been visiting exactly?

So you are saying you don't use any of those socialist roads, police, fire, schools, internet, electricity, sewer, water, air travel, courts, military protection, homeland security, food inspections, regulation of toxic waste, etec. etc. then?


Thats not socialism. It's what every capitalist government does.
30   Booger   ignore (4)   2018 Jul 17, 7:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        


Randall's: We have so much fucking food we literally caused the collapse of the Soviet Union.
32   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 18, 9:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

OP is acting as a useful idiot for the top economic quintile against his (and my) own interests here.

Stop passing along propaganda that demonizes benefits to lower economic quintiles while visibly ignoring but secretly supporting benefits to the top quintile.

If you seriously want to discuss the economics of Venezuela, show us you have broad understanding of the topic by discussing factors such as Dutch Disease.

This post is not even a full step up from posting Minion memes on your facebook page.
34   HEYYOU   ignore (46)   2018 Jul 25, 8:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

What's backing the American Dollar?
The social idiocy of Americans?
35   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 25, 8:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
What's backing the American Dollar?


To be honest.......every socialist country on the planet.
36   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 25, 8:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says


I'm sure it cost a lot more than a $dollar, just to print that junk. LOL.
37   HEYYOU   ignore (46)   2018 Jul 25, 9:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Great news! Get all those Rep/Cons off the govt.teat!
"The House will only approve a farm bill that squeezes SNAP recipients; the Senate won’t let that happen."

Senators will be pushing against the 2nd Amendment Solution!
Bunch of Socialists!

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2018/07/paul-ryan-is-holding-the-farm-bill-hostage-over-food-stamps/
38   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 25, 9:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Automan Empire says
OP is acting as a useful idiot for the top economic quintile against his (and my) own interests here.

Stop passing along propaganda that demonizes benefits to lower economic quintiles while visibly ignoring but secretly supporting benefits to the top quintile.

If you seriously want to discuss the economics of Venezuela, show us you have broad understanding of the topic

You don't need a broad understanding of the Venezuelan economy to discuss it. All you have to do is look at the results. The failure happens when a bus driver who has no clue about economics, tries to run a country.


Automan Empire says
Stop passing along propaganda that demonizes benefits to lower economic quintiles while visibly ignoring but secretly supporting benefits to the top quintile.

What benefits did the starving lower economic quintile get?
39   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Jul 25, 9:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The benefit is they all starve equally. Ultimate socialism equality.

Strategist says
Automan Empire says
OP is acting as a useful idiot for the top economic quintile against his (and my) own interests here.

Stop passing along propaganda that demonizes benefits to lower economic quintiles while visibly ignoring but secretly supporting benefits to the top quintile.

If you seriously want to discuss the economics of Venezuela, show us you have broad understanding of the topic

You don't need a broad understanding of the Venezuelan economy to discuss it. All you have to do is look at the results. The failure happens when a bus driver who has no clue about economics, tries to run a country.


Automan Empire says
Stop passing along propaganda that demonizes benefits to lower economic quintiles while visibly ignoring but secretly supporting benefits to the top quintile.

What benefit...
40   steverbeaver   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 25, 9:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
What's backing the American Dollar?
The social idiocy of Americans?

The US military. Haven't you noticed a pattern among those who try to go against the greenback?

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