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Sessions to make major ‘sanctuary jurisdiction announcement’ in Sacramento tomorrow


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2018 Mar 6, 6:03pm   32,089 views  101 comments

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions is scheduled to be in Sacramento on Wednesday to make what his office describes as a “major sanctuary jurisdiction announcement,” just blocks from the state Capitol, where a new law making California a sanctuary state was passed and signed.

Sessions did not provide advance details of his announcement, but his Justice Department has been in an escalating legal battle with California, dozens of cities and counties in the state, including San Francisco, and hundreds nationwide whose laws and policies restrict local police and jailers from taking part in federal immigration enforcement.

His targets have included the local and state sanctuary laws, already the subject of court battles, as well as local officials like Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf, who publicly warned the immigrant community Feb. 24 of an impending Bay Area raid by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.


https://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/Sessions-to-make-major-sanctuary-jurisdiction-12731976.php

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1   RC2006   2018 Mar 6, 6:10pm  

It's sedition, CA politicians need to be rounded up and thrown in federal prison.
2   Goran_K   2018 Mar 6, 6:10pm  

Libby needs to be thrown into prison to send a message to California politicians who openly break the law.
3   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 6, 6:15pm  

Oh Please Oh Please start arresting Mayors and State Officials under 18 USC 1512 or whatever applies oh please oh please.

(d) Whoever intentionally harasses another person and thereby hinders, delays, prevents, or dissuades any person from—
(1) attending or testifying in an official proceeding;
(2) reporting to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation 1 supervised release,,1 parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
(3) arresting or seeking the arrest of another person in connection with a Federal offense; or
(4) causing a criminal prosecution, or a parole or probation revocation proceeding, to be sought or instituted, or assisting in such prosecution or proceeding;
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 3 years, or both

Drain the Swamp of unconstitutional powergrabers who try to fine people for cooperating with valid Federal Regulators regulating something only the Federal Government has the power over.
4   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 6, 6:19pm  

What California is doing with the $10,000 fine for voluntary compliance with Federal Rules and Regulations that California has no jurisdiction over, is no different than "Nullifications" attempts of South Carolina before the Civil War.
5   lostand confused   2018 Mar 6, 6:25pm  

Did he check with Rob Rosentein first?
6   anonymous   2018 Mar 6, 6:42pm  

Nobody can waste more time, money, and resources accomplishing less than Republicans.

This is the height of stupidity
7   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 6, 6:56pm  

errc says
Nobody can waste more time, money, and resources accomplishing less than Republicans.


Don't agree. Keeping State Officials from intimidating witnesses and cooperative reporters regarding an issue over which they have no Legal Authority, is an important step to maintaining the Rule of Law and a Republican Form of Government.

State Officials cannot give themselves powers expressly delegated to the Federal Government, nor actively interfere with those powers.
8   Ceffer   2018 Mar 6, 7:42pm  

I Oh So Love going to the gym, and seeing the Mexican illegals in the locker room covered with gang tats and knife/bullet scars. It makes me feel that my government is doing all it can to protect my safety.
9   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Mar 6, 7:52pm  

This is awesome!

Another notch on the Trump belt.
10   Strategist   2018 Mar 6, 8:05pm  

States cannot permit sanctuary cities. They are not a different country. I am glad the Feds are suing California.
11   Strategist   2018 Mar 6, 8:13pm  

Strategist says
States cannot permit sanctuary cities. They are not a different country. I am glad the Feds are suing California.


There have been vicious crimes committed by those who would have been deported had it not been for sanctuary cities. This is not acceptable.
Governor Brown, you have no right to endanger our families. Is that clear to you? Our safety precedes your ideology. OK?
12   Y   2018 Mar 6, 8:19pm  

The feds can decapitate California if they TARGET Hollywood, the head of medusa..
13   WookieMan   2018 Mar 6, 8:19pm  

Strategist says
Strategist says
States cannot permit sanctuary cities. They are not a different country. I am glad the Feds are suing California.


There have been vicious crimes committed by those who would have been deported had it not been for sanctuary cities. This is not acceptable.
Governor Brown, you have no right to endanger our families. Is that clear to you? Our safety precedes your ideology. OK?


I don't disagree with your sentiment. But did you just quote yourself? With no other comment between?
14   Y   2018 Mar 6, 8:21pm  

What a unique way to get your point across...
16   Strategist   2018 Mar 6, 8:38pm  

RafiMaas says
I guess the big question is how will the federal government force the state government to do the federal governments job.


By not stopping the federal government from doing their job?
17   Patrick   2018 Mar 6, 8:44pm  

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/politics/california-immigration-lawsuit/index.html

After nearly a year of threats, the Trump administration made its most aggressive move to date against a familiar target of its ire: California and its immigration policies.

Late Tuesday evening the department filed a federal lawsuit against the state and its top officials to stop a cluster of so-called "sanctuary state" bills -- a move that puts the administration on offense but is nonetheless likely to generate heated litigation over the boundaries of immigration authority.
18   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 6, 9:00pm  

RafiMaas says
I guess the big question is how will the federal government force the state government to do the federal governments job.



It's not merely 'non-cooperation'.

A state that says you'll be fined $10,000 for voluntarily cooperating with Federal Authorities on a Federal-only matter is the state is actively interfering aka obstructing.

Not to mention a threat to the rule of law from States punishing the right of individuals to cooperate with Authorities and overstepping their bounds into a field they have no jurisdiction.

Countless Federal Courts have struck down Countless attempts at States to regulate immigration, this is will ajudicated similarly, with California's laws being declared null and void.
19   lostand confused   2018 Mar 7, 5:28am  

Sessions is an imbecile. Rostein will blow his whistle and session will scurry back to his cage.
20   Tenpoundbass   2018 Mar 7, 5:33am  

He should just shoot the Mayors done and done. Tap twice and finish nice. The Treasonous Bastards deserve nothing less than what they bring America.
21   anonymous   2018 Mar 7, 6:05am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
errc says
Nobody can waste more time, money, and resources accomplishing less than Republicans.


Don't agree. Keeping State Officials from intimidating witnesses and cooperative reporters regarding an issue over which they have no Legal Authority, is an important step to maintaining the Rule of Law and a Republican Form of Government.

State Officials cannot give themselves powers expressly delegated to the Federal Government, nor actively interfere with those powers.


Do you have the numbers from the cost benefit analysis?

Seems all costs with little benefit
22   bob2356   2018 Mar 7, 6:25am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
It's not merely 'non-cooperation'.

A state that says you'll be fined $10,000 for voluntarily cooperating with Federal Authorities on a Federal-only matter is the state is actively interfering aka obstructing.

Not to mention a threat to the rule of law from States punishing the right of individuals to cooperate with Authorities and overstepping their bounds into a field they have no jurisdiction.


What right is that? Where is that right established?

Why is it the right wingnuts are huge advocates of states rights except when they aren't? Nothing like having a firm set of principles. There are states that don't allow any employee records to be released to any law enforcement agency without a warrant. Where is the outrage about that obstructing of law enforcement? Curiously missing.
23   Y   2018 Mar 7, 7:13am  

There is no obstruction. Having procedures in place is not obstruction.
bob2356 says
There are states that don't allow any employee records to be released to any law enforcement agency without a warrant. Where is the outrage about that obstructing of law enforcement?
24   Bd6r   2018 Mar 7, 7:45am  

errc says
Nobody can waste more time, money, and resources accomplishing less than Republicans.

Disagreed, vehemently. Question is - what is the goal? If the goal is to remove illegals, you are right. But the goal is to make noises about removing illegals to get votes from gullible Americans while employing illegals in meat packing plants and paying peanuts to them to increase PROFIT.Everything R establishment wants is accomplished extremely efficiently.

If latter is not the intended outcome, then someone please explain me why E-verify is not mandatory ( with R President, Con-gress, and Senate) and why employers are not fined in hundreds of thousands for employing illegals.
25   Bd6r   2018 Mar 7, 7:51am  

Feux Follets says
Oh So Love going out and seeing Bikers, Aryan Brotherhood, Skinheads, followers of Richard Spence, Methheads, druggies of every description, wannabes etc. in the locker room and on the streets covered with gang tats and knife/bullet scars. It makes me feel that my government is doing all it can to protect my safety.
.
Hanging around the Aryan Brotherhood are we ?

Or just your run of the mill Bikers - chapters all over the country and they come in multiple colors, ethnicities etc. but predominately white so you won't ever have to feel left out - isn't that swell ?

Funny the AG isn't going after these groups

1. One can deport illegals, while one can not deport US-citizen morons who are in groups you mention. Your comparison is not really valid.
2. Law enforcement is treating bikers, for example, much worse than illegals. Care to look at this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Waco_shootout - and comment when was the last time law enforcement executed (extra-judicially) nine illegal gang members.
26   Goran_K   2018 Mar 7, 8:38am  

5lbsbrowntrout says

Which law is that? Freedom of speech?


Sedition.
27   Tenpoundbass   2018 Mar 7, 8:41am  

I sure would appreciate it if Sessions could find in his heart to send all of these Illegal Cocksuckers home where they belong and shoot them with M60 machine gunfire if they try to sneak back in. What about My Safety? Don't let them hurt us no more Trump!
29   socal2   2018 Mar 7, 8:51am  

bob2356 says
Why is it the right wingnuts are huge advocates of states rights except when they aren't? Nothing like having a firm set of principles.


So we can assume you would be cool with individual states banning abortion? Of course you wouldn't. I don't see any Red States going against Federal abortion laws right now, so the State's rights hypocrisy is firmly with the Democrats right now.

Unlike abortion, immigration enforcement (or lack of enforcement) effects the entire country and is totally in the purview of the Federal Government.
30   anonymous   2018 Mar 7, 8:52am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
errc says
Nobody can waste more time, money, and resources accomplishing less than Republicans.


Don't agree. Keeping State Officials from intimidating witnesses and cooperative reporters regarding an issue over which they have no Legal Authority, is an important step to maintaining the Rule of Law and a Republican Form of Government.

State Officials cannot give themselves powers expressly delegated to the Federal Government, nor actively interfere with those powers.


Don’t Start No Shit, Won’t Be No Shit

It seems like this is simply petty retribution against the opposing political party

It’s funny, why not apply the same thought process to Cannabis laws wrt Fed vs States? This is the party of States Rights, and cares about the People, right?

It would be awesome to see a cost benefit analysis, so the we don’t want to pay any taxes crowd could judge if it’s worthwhile venture
31   WookieMan   2018 Mar 7, 9:21am  

Feux Follets says
Or just your run of the mill Bikers - chapters all over the country and they come in multiple colors, ethnicities etc. but predominately white so you won't ever have to feel left out - isn't that swell ?


Bikers are fags.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/K2k4Fsg11-w
32   Bd6r   2018 Mar 7, 9:37am  

5lbsbrowntrout says

I see so we should waste money on a lawsuit that won't be won?

According to this logic, police should be free to inform murderers that other police is coming for them, etc.
33   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 7, 9:42am  

bob2356 says
What right is that? Where is that right established?


There's no way the country would have survived this long if it wasn't there.

Visit the gravesites of John C. Calhoun and Abraham Lincoln

Bob, think about your position. You are saying a State Government can compel people through fines NOT to cooperate with the Federal Government.

South Carolina Tariffs almost anytime pre 1860. "Anybody who tells the Feds about Tariff Evasion shall be fined..."
Some State that wanted to stay Wet, 1920s "Anybody who cooperates or provides information without a warrant to the Untouchables and Elliot Ness"
Some place full of Germans in WW1 or WW2: "Anybody who cooperates with the US Navy regarding the potential presence of U-Boats with a court order shall be fined..."
Alabama Civil Rights 1950s "Anybody who voluntarily shares information with the FBI about "Peaceful Fraternal Organizations" in absence of legal processes shall be fined..."

Besides that, California has no jurisdiction over immigration because it's a State, and no jurisdiction over I-9 forms because they're federal, not state, forms on a subject on which the state has no powers to begin with.

The Income Tax is voluntary compliance, you fill out the forms and send the money on your own volition. What if a state said "You can't voluntarily cooperate with the IRS unless they serve you with a legal process" you literally couldn't pay your taxes.
34   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 7, 9:46am  

The Obama Administration took Arizona to court because they passed a law requiring Businesses to issue regular reports to Immigration Authorities regularly or face fines.

And they won in Federal Court, it was a no brainer.

It was the very mirror image of the California Law just passed forbidding voluntarily assistance with Federal Authorities.

I bet the preliminary injunction is issued within the next 90 days. I will write "I told you so" 3x if I'm wrong.
35   exfatguy   2018 Mar 7, 9:56am  

This will be a nothing cheeseburger until some mayors and sheriffs start getting arrested.
36   RC2006   2018 Mar 7, 10:25am  

exfatguy says
This will be a nothing cheeseburger until some mayors and sheriffs start getting arrested.


Exactly, unless we are going to arrest the CA governor, attorney general, and the mayor of every sanctuary city nothing will happen. Liberals do not care about laws that they do not like and need more illegals for their voting bloc.
37   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 7, 10:33am  

RafiMaas says
People are being <>Bcompelled to make sure the federal government is doing their job. No warrant no search.


So you admit this is no longer mere "Non cooperation". "Compelled" means threat of punishment, ie Fines, which is an active measure. That's obstruction now.

If your logic is right, a State that hated tariffs (another thing states have no authority over) could pass a law to fine you $10,000 if you called ICE to tell them you saw a bunch of guys unloading cargo in a bay and you think they're smugglers, because ICE hadn't served you a warrant.

Of course, this can't possibly be permitted, or states would have successfully employed this tactic more than a century ago, and the country would have fallen apart by now.
38   bob2356   2018 Mar 7, 10:44am  

BlueSardine says
There is no obstruction. Having procedures in place is not obstruction.


Ca has procedures in place. Its called ab 450. So there is not obstruction. Glad you agree.

socal2 says

So we can assume you would be cool with individual states banning abortion? Of course you wouldn't. I don't see any Red States going against Federal abortion laws right now, so the State's rights hypocrisy is firmly with the Democrats right now.


Funny someone named socal doesn't know CA laws. Nothing is banned. The feds just need to get a warrant or court order for employment records. As they do in a number of other states. The hypocrisy is firmly in the hands of the people running around flapping their arms going "it's obstruction" when CA's law is no different than CT's law for example. . Except CA's law only applies to immigration, not all employment records.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Bob, think about your position. You are saying a State Government can compel people through fines NOT to cooperate with the Federal Government.


States can require through fines that a business require the federal government get a judge to sign off on a warrant if they want to see employment records. Again, why aren't you outraged at all the states that have laws on the books restricting access to employment records, some of which have been on the books for decades? Why now and why CA? Crickets chirping but no answer in sight. You can't have it both ways.

When is your boy donnie going to have ICE raiding corporations and doing executive perp walks for employers of illegals. Crickets chirping but no answer in sight. Still waiting.
39   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 7, 10:50am  

bob2356 says
Ca has procedures in place. Its called ab 450. So there is not obstruction. Glad you agree.

oops, California has no jurisdiction over immigration. AB 450 is patently unconstitutional.

It was just as unconstitutional as when NY and MA tried to levy a head tax on immigration, when Arizona tried to force employers to make regular ICE reports the Federal Government did not require.

bob2356 says
The feds just need to get a warrant or court order for employment records


This bans voluntarily cooperation with Federal Authorities. States cannot forbid US citizens from voluntarily cooperating with the Federal Government, much less on Federal Matters.

bob2356 says
States can require through fines that a business require the federal government get a judge to sign off on a warrant if they want to see employment records.


Federal Employment Records, like the I-9?

Are you saying California, which has no immigration jurisdiction, can control voluntarily provision of Federal Mandated Forms to the Federal Government?

What if the IRS goes to an employer and asks to see withholding from an employee, and the Employer turns over payroll records without a warrant? Can California pass a law to fine employers who do that?

bob2356 says
You can't have it both ways.

No YOU can't.
40   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 7, 10:56am  

RafiMaas says
What law are they being compelled to break? The federal government should know not to try and violate citizens rights now Californians will be fined if they allow the federal government to violate citizens rights.


What is so hard to understand.

California has NO powers to do ANYTHING regarding Immigration, which is expressly and solely given to the Federal Government. Just like California cannot set it's own tariffs, or have it's own foreign policy.

What can California do in these areas? Nothing. What regulations can they issue about them? None.

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