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Conservative vs liberal names

By Patrick follow Patrick   2018 Jul 12, 8:27pm 5,535 views   30 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


http://freakonomics.com/2013/04/08/how-much-does-your-name-matter-full-transcript/

OLIVER: So, we weren’t just interested in the categories of name, whether it was a popular or unpopular name, we were also interested in do liberals and conservatives choose different sounding kinds of names. One thing that was particularly fascinating to us was this idea that conservatives tend to be drawn to more kind of masculine, paternalistic kind of metaphors in their political rhetoric, and that liberals tend to be drawn to more nurturing feminine kinds of metaphors in their political rhetoric. And we wanted to test this out and see that well does this also influence name choice, and would conservatives choose more masculine sounding types of names and liberals choose more feminine sounding kinds of names? Well that begs the question what’s a feminine sounding name and what’s a masculine sounding name? Boys’ names are more likely to have hard consonants, to be monosyllabic.

DUBNER: Kurt.

OLIVER: Yeah, Kurt.


This fits with my own theory that conservatism is inherently masculine and liberalism is inherently feminine. The basic divide is in own own brains, and this is a result of the different functions of men and women over evolutionary time. Men were concerned with protecting the borders from invading men who want to kill them and rape their women. Women were concerned with making sure all of the children got enough to eat and were all treated alike.
1   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Jul 12, 8:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

That’s an interesting catch. I never realized that before.

I wonder if this is because traditionally men had to be tough to survive. And conservative nature is survival instinct. While liberalism is simply getting comfortable with failure protection by safety nets and other societal safety’s.
2   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 9:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I do think that men had to be tough enough to defend their women and children from other men if they wanted to have surviving offspring of their own. Males are the defense forces in pretty much all animals from roosters to bulls. The male brain thinks in ways that were selected for by this task. Men understand competition with its winners and losers.

Women are the ones who actually bear children, and generally were not killed by invading armies like the men were. So their main concern was providing their children with food, safety, and a comfort. Women tend to reject competition and don't want anyone to lose. They want all the children to feel good. They are perfectly happy to go with the winner in any fight among men. The invaders seemed kind of sexy, even.

It's what worked to keep us alive down to the present day, and those of us who are alive now owe their life to the genetic predisposition of mom and dad to act like women and men. I'm not saying it's good or bad, only that it's a fact that men and women think very differently, and that this may also explain political differences. Perhaps we could say that the Democratic Party has been taken over by women, and that this accounts for its views.
3   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 13, 6:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Democratic Party has been taken over by women, and that this accounts for its views.

Interesting point. But a little bit of a paradox because female politicians, like their male counterparts, need to have the desire to compete, win, and rule. Often, women pols had to defeat men on the way up. All politicians are vane and want to impose their will on the minions. Very few run for office and say "vote for me and I will leave you alone to pursue your goals and dreams."
4   justme   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 13, 8:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Everyone on this thread so far have two-syllable monikers. Bunch of socialists, the whole lot of them. Except Aphroman, he is the real deal.
6   georgeliberte   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 13, 9:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Democratic Party has been taken over by women, and that this accounts for its views. Interesting point. But a little bit of a paradox because female politicians, like their male counterparts, need to have the desire to compete, win, and rule.
http://impiousdigest.com/coming-soon-hillarys-strap-on-finally-delivered/
7   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Jul 13, 9:35am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

HeadSet says
Democratic Party has been taken over by women, and that this accounts for its views.


I think it's being taken over by feminists and lgbt crap. Bunch of crazy people who really despise anything normal.
10   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 13, 11:59am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Thread topic: names

FortWayne says
lgbt....


Not saying anything about another user, just quoting.
12   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2018 Jul 13, 12:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Here's how Liberals saw Obama
Because that jive ass motherfucker set up every shot to make sure he looked Angelic so all of the gullible Liberals would kiss his greasy asshole.


How is it, so damn easy to tear down his Legacy? You might ask!
13   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2018 Jul 13, 12:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Here's how Liberals try to convince the Sane world that Trump is bad

14   rocketjoe79   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 13, 1:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
I do think that men had to be tough enough to defend their women and children from other men if they wanted to have surviving offspring of their own. Males are the defense forces in pretty much all animals from roosters to bulls. The male brain thinks in ways that were selected for by this task. Men understand competition with its winners and losers.

Women are the ones who actually bear children, and generally were not killed by invading armies like the men were. So their main concern was providing their children with food, safety, and a comfort. Women tend to reject competition and don't want anyone to lose. They want all the children to feel good. They are perfectly happy to go with the winner in any fight among men. The invaders seemed kind of sexy, even.

It's what worked to keep us alive down to the present day, and those of us who are alive now owe their life to the genetic predisposition of mom and dad to act like women and men. I'm not saying it's good or bad, only...


You can take the brain differences a lot deeper. Great article here:

https://psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hope-relationships/201402/brain-differences-between-genders
15   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Jul 13, 1:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
It's what worked to keep us alive down to the present day,


But not anymore:


Patrick says
Perhaps we could say that the Democratic Party has been taken over by women, and that this accounts for its views.


And that picture is the perfect example.
16   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2018 Jul 13, 1:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says


That is one Creepy Dude.

Somebody rip up the floorboards on his house, stat.
17   PeopleUnited   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 13, 2:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

curious2 says

"If you look past the crude gender stereotype, the mommy party/daddy party frame is actually a useful way to think about politics. Government needs to uplift the poor and protect the vulnerable; it also needs to be mindful of resource limitations, encourage productivity, and conduct its own operations efficiently.

Two parties that put different weight on these values can have productive debates about making government better. But Republicans today are not holding up their end of the division of labor.
***


It is this kind of thinking that got us into this mess. Government should see that there is equal protection under the law, it should see that rights of property, life and liberty are granted to all, it should provide for national defense from both foreign and domestic enemies. It SHOULD NOT act as a mommy and daddy.

If you want a mommy and a daddy, go talk to your mommy and daddy or get a counsellor, that is not the government's job.
21   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2018 Jul 14, 7:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

You know all Yesterday I could have sworn this thread was Conservative vs Liberal Memes
22   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jul 14, 8:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It also comes down to individualism vs collectivism. The Right is driven by individual merit and accomplishment, where the Left is driven by "we're all in this together" by taking care of the weak and lazy of the species at the expense of the strong. Per Darwinism, the Right perpetuates the natural order of things to strengthen the species, while the Left is degrading the species by propping up the weak who would've otherwise been killed off and who are a drag and toxin to society.
23   NDrLoR   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 14, 8:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tenpoundbass says
Angelic
"smug" and "smirk" both come to mind.

PrivilegedtobeWhite says
individualism
The individual is the first and most basic unit in society. Collectivism is just made up.
24   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2018 Jul 14, 11:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Aphroman says
Tenpoundbass says
Angelic
"smug" and "smirk" both come to mind.

Yes but always framed with a round graphic behind him to give him a Halo.
26   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 14, 11:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

PrivilegedtobeWhite says
It also comes down to individualism vs collectivism. The Right is driven by individual merit and accomplishment, where the Left is driven by "we're all in this together" by taking care of the weak and lazy of the species at the expense of the strong.


This conflict will never end, imho. It is inherent in being human in several ways:

* Men are driven by individual accomplishment because that is what attracts women.
* Women are driven to take care of the weak because that is what mothers need to do to have surviving children.

* Those who are winning enjoy it and want to keep what they won.
* Those who are losing don't like it, and want to take from the winners, or change the rules.

* Extreme individuality means putting one's self above the common good.
* Extreme collectivism means that no one has an incentive to work hard.
27   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jul 14, 4:43pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
* Men are driven by individual accomplishment because that is what attracts women.
* Women are driven to take care of the weak because that is what mothers need to do to have surviving children.

* Those who are winning enjoy it and want to keep what they won.
* Those who are losing don't like it, and want to take from the winners, or change the rules.

* Extreme individuality means putting one's self above the common good.
* Extreme collectivism means that no one has an incentive to work hard.
True. This is why the shift to collectivism will slowly kill our species and women will continue to wonder "where are all the manly men?"
28   mell   ignore (6)   2018 Jul 14, 6:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
PrivilegedtobeWhite says
It also comes down to individualism vs collectivism. The Right is driven by individual merit and accomplishment, where the Left is driven by "we're all in this together" by taking care of the weak and lazy of the species at the expense of the strong.


This conflict will never end, imho. It is inherent in being human in several ways:

* Men are driven by individual accomplishment because that is what attracts women.
* Women are driven to take care of the weak because that is what mothers need to do to have surviving children.

* Those who are winning enjoy it and want to keep what they won.
* Those who are losing don't like it, and want to take from the winners, or change the rules.

* Extreme individuality means putting one's self above the common good.
* Extreme collectivism means that no one has an incentive to work hard.


The left propagates "we're all in this together except for us". Which is redistribution from the performers to the moochers and forcing 3rd world status on the common worker by making them compete with rapefugees and criminals while the leftoid politburo and the few connected will sit in their lavish walled castles with lavish pensions paid for by the taxpayer. That is why the rightist calvinistic way may not be the most compassionate, but at least their wealth is not coerced by forcing taxpayers into misery, servitude, loss of personal freedom and civil liberties. And letting the left reign free will always end in a 3rd world shithole totalitarian regime like Venezuela.
29   PeopleUnited   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 15, 7:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I agree with what you have said Mell,

The rest of the story is that both left and right are used by the elites to:

1. give us an idea that we have a choice as voters (while behind the scenes both left and right are promoting the elite's agenda in different ways)

2. divide us into groups so that we don't unite and question the elites motives and power

3. consolidate power and further their own agenda

Does anyone really believe that the struggle between leftists and right wingers is giving us the balance we need to maintain our constitutional republic? Or is it just a distraction from the fact that we are on a path to one world government and globalism (which is promoted at times by members of both sides) is one of the means to this end.
30   mell   ignore (6)   2018 Jul 15, 7:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

PeopleUnited says
I agree with what you have said Mell,

The rest of the story is that both left and right are used by the elites to:

1. give us an idea that we have a choice as voters (while behind the scenes both left and right are promoting the elite's agenda in different ways)

2. divide us into groups so that we don't unite and question the elites motives and power

3. consolidate power and further their own agenda

Does anyone really believe that the struggle between leftists and right wingers is giving us the balance we need to maintain our constitutional republic? Or is it just a distraction from the fact that we are on a path to one world government and globalism (which is promoted at times by members of both sides) is one of the means to this end.


Agreed. The elite right is def in on it as well, the left is just far more dangerous for the simple reason that people/groups on the right are not easily caged into groupthink and tend to exhibit much more diversity in their behaviors and opinions, may form local militias and stray from global marching orders easily due to their calvinistic views. The left is much more gullible towards mass movements leading to government killings and tyranny by ways of groupthink. How else can one explain legislation being drafted to punish people refusing to call others by their made up desired pronouns or made up genders. This is not far away from postulating that Jews are apes and must be treated as such, everybody with eyes can clearly see they aren't, but the leftoid groupthink will coerce them into abandoning all reason and just go with "the wave".

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