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It Begins: Racist South Africa goes full Zimbabwe


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2018 Aug 20, 7:12am   6,812 views  61 comments

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Take 1/10th the land value, or we'll take your land anyway.
South African government has begun the process of seizing land from white farmers.

Local newspaper City Press reports two game farms in the northern province of Limpopo are the first to be targeted for unilateral seizure after negotiations with the owners to purchase the properties stalled.

While the government says it intends to pay, owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand ($18.7 million) for the land — they’re being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million).

“Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state,” a letter sent to the owners earlier this year said.

Akkerland Boerdery obtained an urgent injunction to prevent eviction until a court had ruled on the issue, but the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs is opposing the application.


“What makes the Akkerland case unique is that they apparently were not given the opportunity to first dispute the claim in court, as the law requires,” AgriSA union spokeswoman Annelize Crosby told the paper.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/south-africa-begins-seizing-whiteowned-farms/news-story/8937f899bd3f131bfc4ffb648ea5c53b

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1   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 7:52am  

Sounds like Trump's favorite real estate tool--Emminent Domain.
2   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Aug 20, 7:57am  

If I were a white South African farmer, I would take the money and run far away. Australia is a really nice place. Nearly 2 million dollars buys a nice new start on life, a nice new education to do something besides farming.
3   Bd6r   2018 Aug 20, 8:07am  

Simple

step 1 - take land from white farmers - not raycist because they are white, no one in West is protesting
step 2 - give land to government cronies
step 3 - production plummets
step 4 - hunger
step 5 - refugees!
4   Shaman   2018 Aug 20, 8:31am  

Leftists support this because it caters to their idea that black people cant succeed without white people losing.
5   Shaman   2018 Aug 20, 9:07am  

This cab only go down in two ways:
1)the white people in SA bow out and leave the country to descend into squalor.
2)whites in SA experience a resurgence of will to dominate, grab their sacks and their guns, and seize power back from the African Union.

At ten percent, the whites are an extreme minority, but white people are the most vicious of all races when provoked. I would give them 60/40 odds of seizing power again should they find the will.
6   NuttBoxer   2018 Aug 20, 9:10am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Take 1/10th the land value, or we'll take your land anyway.


To be fair, in the US it’s called eminent domain. But yeah, between this and no water SA is headed the wrong direction.
7   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 20, 9:11am  

NuttBoxer says
To be fair, in the US it’s called eminent domain. But yeah, between this and no water SA is headed the wrong direction.



US Eminent Domain has to be for a Public Good like a Military Base or Road, and it has to be full market value. And it can be Contested in Court. There is no "Eminent Domain Agency" that can simply refuse to review the matter.
8   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 9:19am  

Quigley says
At ten percent, the whites are an extreme minority, but white people are the most vicious of all races when provoked. I would give them 60/40 odds of seizing power again should they find the will.


Not the liberlas-have you seen Europe and modern day leftist America?
9   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 9:22am  

Great Venezuela just did a land redistribution and it worked out so well-as did Zimbabwe. S A is a beautiful country-I have visited thrice. Even then it was getting very dangerous and I stuck tot he kruger game areas and Cape Town . I drove around the Cape and vsiited the sights-beautiful. Sad it will become another disaster.
10   NuttBoxer   2018 Aug 20, 9:25am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
US Eminent Domain has to be for a Public Good like a Military Base


Killing is for the public good? I believe you only if I can completely trust the government to always put me first.
11   RC2006   2018 Aug 20, 9:34am  

They need to take whatever money they can get and run which is what they should have done already or fight back and wipe everyone out because they cannot live in peace together. Either way they go its a bad situation.
12   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 9:53am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
US Eminent Domain has to be for a Public Good like a Military Base or Road, and it has to be full market value. And it can be Contested in Court. There is no "Eminent Domain Agency" that can simply refuse to review the matter


Or a Casino in Atlantic City....
13   Shaman   2018 Aug 20, 9:58am  

NuttBoxer says
Killing is for the public good?


Defense is for the public good. If you disagree, I suggest moving to Yemen.
14   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 10:19am  

LeonDurham says
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
US Eminent Domain has to be for a Public Good like a Military Base or Road, and it has to be full market value. And it can be Contested in Court. There is no "Eminent Domain Agency" that can simply refuse to review the matter


Or a Casino in Atlantic City....


You cna go to court, fight it and also get full compensation-full. In this case an entire race is being targeted-some who have been there for 300 years and their entire proeprty being stolen-with no compensation.
Only dems cna be so heartless and only look at politics.
15   Bd6r   2018 Aug 20, 10:22am  

lostand confused says
You cna go to court, fight it

and lose most of the times, see Kelo v. City of New London, and also recent and not so recent wall building exercises, http://immigrationimpact.com/2017/07/14/border-wall-eminent-domain/

lostand confused says
also get full compensation

yes
16   NuttBoxer   2018 Aug 20, 10:37am  

Quigley says
Defense is for the public good. If you disagree, I suggest moving to Yemen.


When was the last time our military defended us from a foreign invader? ... ... ...

Yeah.

Appropriately ironic suggestion given all the defending US troops have done in Yemen, making it quite the defense paradise.
17   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 10:42am  

lostand confused says
You cna go to court, fight it and also get full compensation-full. In this case an entire race is being targeted-some who have been there for 300 years and their entire proeprty being stolen-with no compensation.
Only dems cna be so heartless and only look at politics.


Wow--when did Trump cultists lose their sense of humor. Obviously what is happening in South Africa is not the same as eminent domain in the US.
18   FortWayne   2018 Aug 20, 10:54am  

6 - migrate to America
7 - repeat that through affirmative action in US

dr6B says
Simple

step 1 - take land from white farmers - not raycist because they are white, no one in West is protesting
step 2 - give land to government cronies
step 3 - production plummets
step 4 - hunger
step 5 - refugees!
19   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 11:00am  

LeonDurham says
ow--when did Trump cultists lose their sense of humor. Obviously what is happening in South Africa is not the same as eminent domain in the US.

Only a cold heartless SJW dem would find humor in families being tossed into the streets peniless and still somehow bring trump into it. Then when caught-humor-yeah right. Many of these people ahve been there 300 years.
20   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 11:04am  

lostand confused says
Only a cold heartless SJW dem would find humor in families being tossed into the streets peniless and still somehow bring trump into it. Then when caught-humor-yeah right. Many of these people ahve been there 300 years.


Penniless? Perhaps you didn't read the article. They were offered $1.87MM.

Is it OK to make a joke now?
21   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 11:17am  

LeonDurham says
Penniless? Perhaps you didn't read the article. They were offered $1.87MM.

Is it OK to make a joke now?


For a property worth 18 million. You think they won't have a mortgage to cover business expenses? If they have a modest 4 million mortgage on the 18 million proeprty-who is going to cover the rest-YOU???
This is just a start-they have openly said they are going to seize all the lands for no compensation-this maybe as good a sit gets.

keep laughing-one day if your kind has its way-this may be our fate too-redistribution is all the rage in your side of the aisle. Democrats sicken me-claiming to be peace and tolerance-but inr elaity -well Germany, cambodia, Soviet union all show what ahppeend.
22   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 11:23am  

lostand confused says
For a property worth 18 million


lol. They asked for $18MM. Do you have an independent appraisal of the farm? When did they buy it? What did they pay for it?

lostand confused says
keep laughing-one day if your kind has its way-this may be our fate too-redistribution is all the rage in your side of the aisle.


Thanks for your permission to make jokes. I will continue. And, yes, redistribution in the form of progressive taxation is absolutely necessary in a free market capitalistic society to prevent all wealth from accumulating at the top. That is a fact.
23   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 11:27am  

LeonDurham says
lol. They asked for $18MM. Do you have an independent appraisal of the farm? When did they buy it? What did they pay for it?

Do you? You are so happy theya r egtting 1.87 million. The govt is now saying they will give zero soon.
LeonDurham says
Thanks for your permission to make jokes. I will continue. And, yes, redistribution in the form of progressive taxation is absolutely necessary in a free market capitalistic society to prevent all wealth from accumulating at the top. That is a fact.


Wow!! Just wow!! Redistribution and socialism-now dems do not hide it anymore-it is out in the open. Folks this mid terms and the future few elections are as important as civil war.
24   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 11:38am  

lostand confused says
Do you? You are so happy theya r egtting 1.87 million. The govt is now saying they will give zero soon.


Am I happy? Making a joke = I'm happy?

lostand confused says
Wow!! Just wow!! Redistribution and socialism-now dems do not hide it anymore-it is out in the open. Folks this mid terms and the future few elections are as important as civil war.


If you think progressive taxation is socialism then there is no point having a discussion. The midterms are important. It's literally fact vs. fiction. Truth vs. lies.
25   RWSGFY   2018 Aug 20, 11:44am  

LeonDurham says
Do you have an independent appraisal of the farm?


I'm afraid there won't be such thing as "independent appraisal" of anything there anymore.
26   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 11:48am  

LeonDurham says
If you think progressive taxation is socialism then there is no point having a discussion. The midterms are important. It's literally fact vs. fiction. Truth vs. lies.


Progressive taxation is what we have-redistribution is what you propose-Lord help us. My parents came froma socialist countyr for this. My parents country ahs gone capitalist-time to move back?
27   bob2356   2018 Aug 20, 11:58am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
It Begins: Racist South Africa goes full Zimbabwe


So you are saying 50 years of apartheid wasn't racist?
28   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 20, 12:03pm  

bob2356 says
So you are saying 50 years of apartheid wasn't racist?



Nope. That's a helluva obvious yet weak strawman attempt.


Time to boycott South Africa again, for Racism. Stop Property Apartheid. Wish I had shorted the ETF back months ago when I first thought of it, it's wayyy down.

Some companies with subsidiaries in South Africa:
Barclays
Vodafone
inBev (Anheiser-Busch)
29   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 12:11pm  

lostand confused says
Progressive taxation is what we have-redistribution is what you propose


Progressive taxation is redistribution.
30   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 12:12pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
bob2356 says
So you are saying 50 years of apartheid wasn't racist?



Nope


And how do you come to this conclusion?
31   FortWayne   2018 Aug 20, 12:20pm  

Leon this is how socialism works. Take away from haves to give to government cronies.

The fact you think it’s fine, is pretty unamerican.

LeonDurham says
lostand confused says
Only a cold heartless SJW dem would find humor in families being tossed into the streets peniless and still somehow bring trump into it. Then when caught-humor-yeah right. Many of these people ahve been there 300 years.


Penniless? Perhaps you didn't read the article. They were offered $1.87MM.

Is it OK to make a joke now?
32   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 12:28pm  

FortWayne says
Leon this is how socialism works. Take away from haves to give to government cronies.

The fact you think it’s fine, is pretty unamerican.


My lord. Who says I think it's fine?
33   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 12:57pm  

LeonDurham says
Progressive taxation is redistribution.


No it is not. redistribution si what they did in Venezuela and now S Africa-seize people's proeprties/assets and redistribute. Stop trying to spin your socialist plans.
34   Ceffer   2018 Aug 20, 12:58pm  

They're just offering more than what the property will be worth under the new management. It was only worth 18.7 million under the old management.
35   Shaman   2018 Aug 20, 1:31pm  

bob2356 says
So you are saying 50 years of apartheid wasn't racist?


Clearly it wasn’t long enough.
36   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 1:33pm  

lostand confused says
No it is not. redistribution si what they did in Venezuela and now S Africa-seize people's proeprties/assets and redistribute. Stop trying to spin your socialist plans.


Again--the midterms is about truth and fiction. Facts and lies.
37   Shaman   2018 Aug 20, 1:38pm  

LeonDurham says
Again--the midterms is about truth and fiction. Facts and lies.


I agree. The question is whether the Lie of Cultural Marxism will be upheld, or the sword of truth will cleave off another chunk of Democrat influence this November.

Ya all know which one I’m sure will happen.
38   Goran_K   2018 Aug 20, 1:45pm  

Collectivism always goes this way, theft, violence, and then minority oppression.

Nazis had the holocaust.
Soviets had the red purges.
Democrats had black slavery and Japanese internment.

... and on and on.

South Africa is no different. Collectivist causing misery and death through their warped ideology which trounces all over individual rights and freedoms.
39   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 2:01pm  

LeonDurham says
Again--the midterms is about truth and fiction. Facts and lies.

Yup democrat lies so far-now they openly embrace it.
40   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 2:02pm  

lostand confused says

Yup democrat lies so far-now they openly embrace it.


No that's the cult leader. He openly embraces lying and encourages all around him to do the same. Pat.net is a great example--his cult members don't even know when they are lying anymore and they don't care.

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