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Oh look everybody Trump is rich and your broke ass is not. Who gives a fuck how he got it? You don't have it!


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2018 Oct 3, 6:43am   4,768 views  34 comments

by Tenpoundbass   ➕follow (7)   💰tip   ignore  

If you shitbirds would focus more on making money for yourself and less time peering into other people's wallets, the world would be less miserable for you pissheads.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

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1   Tenpoundbass   2018 Oct 3, 6:49am  

Rich people have my blessing to keep as much of their money from the Creepy Commie Liberals as they can.
We don't' want the Liberals fully funding their FEMA concentration camps for the Wrongthinks do We?

Have you disenfranchised a Commie Fuckhead today?
2   marcus   2018 Oct 3, 7:00am  

What I want to know is, how does someone fail, even at owning a Casino ! ?

I know they have now confirmed that Trump inherited over 400 million from his father. But does that figure include all the 10s of millions or hundreds of millions his father spent bailing him out of all of his failures ?
3   marcus   2018 Oct 3, 7:02am  

Tenpoundbass says
Rich people have my blessing


Yes we know. Trumps underlying message to you people really works. You must be so proud.
4   Goran_K   2018 Oct 3, 7:07am  

marcus says
What I want to know is, how does someone fail, even at owning a Casino ! ?

I know they have now confirmed that Trump inherited over 400 million from his father. But does that figure include all the 10s of millions or hundreds of millions his father spent bailing him out of all of his failures ?


Why do you hate rich people?
5   bob2356   2018 Oct 3, 8:01am  

Tenpoundbass says
If you shitbirds would focus more on making money for yourself and less time peering into other people's wallets, the world would be less miserable for you pissheads.


Really hit a nerve for some people it appears. Did donny boy not really make himself a billionaire? Shit, everyone that was involved in NY development knew that a long long time ago. Bucha, who developed Port Liberte in jersey city and I knew because my company did business with, once told me at some point in the mid 80's that the only business skills trump had were daddies money, daddies connections, and government handouts.

So we have gone from awesome businessman for president to who gives a fuck how he got it. Nothing like having a consistent positions.
6   Shaman   2018 Oct 3, 8:33am  

marcus says
What I want to know is, how does someone fail, even at owning a Casino !


Not enough Asians on the East Coast.
7   Tenpoundbass   2018 Oct 3, 10:15am  

bob2356 says
So we have gone from awesome businessman for president to who gives a fuck how he got it.


Do you realize the roll call from the alma mater for the first few years winners from the Florida Lotto that are still Millionaires today is ZERO!
Zilch Nada!
8   Goran_K   2018 Oct 3, 10:17am  

I thought I'd never see the day.

Trump's net worth drops while being president, and the left mocks him.

Hillary Clinton and Obama get filthy rich as "public servants", and the left doesn't bat an eye.

Anytime the left talks about "we want tax policies that help the poor and middle class instead of the elites" just know it's complete fucking BS.
9   Evan F.   2018 Oct 3, 10:53am  

Goran_K says
Trump's net worth drops while being president, and the left mocks him.

Hillary Clinton and Obama get filthy rich as "public servants", and the left doesn't bat an eye.

A quick web search tells me Obama's net worth is about $40 million currently. The Clinton's is about $100 million. Trump, by his own estimation, is worth 2 orders of magnitude more than Obama and 1 order of magnitude more than the Clintons (3.1 billion)

I don't see anyone here mocking his dropping on the Forbes list. I do see people taking him to task for a) the way he acquired that wealth and b) the hypocrisy of his platform, calling himself a master businessman when he's really just a hack who had the good fortune to have a wealthy family and be invested in a lot of real estate at the right time.

Obama, filthy rich. You make it seem like he's primed to do a hostile takeover of the Trump company with the change under his couch cushions.

Trump's made some decent economic calls but he's had the benefit of the tailwind from Obama's long, drawn out recovery. The tax cut was pretty smart, politically, because it's putting off another inevitable market correction, which will probably come on very slowly, maybe even after Trump leaves office.
10   GNL   2018 Oct 3, 10:54am  

Wrong. It matters.
11   Goran_K   2018 Oct 3, 10:58am  

Evan F. says
A quick web search tells me Obama's net worth is about $40 million currently. The Clinton's is about $100 million.


What was Obama's salary? $400,000 a year? Clinton's? Even less?

That doesn't bug you? Evan F. says
Trump's made some decent economic calls but he's had the benefit of the tailwind from Obama's long, drawn out recovery. The tax cut was pretty smart, politically, because it's putting off another inevitable market correction, which will probably come on very slowly, maybe even after Trump leaves office.


Well at least leftists are beginning to admit Trump's economy has been great so far. That's a good first step for you.
12   Evan F.   2018 Oct 3, 11:17am  

Goran_K says
Well at least leftists are beginning to admit Trump's economy has been great so far.


It's impossible to deny. But 'the economy' is such a monolith that attributing it to JUST the president's policies is stupid.

One thing conservatives took Obama to task on in the 2016 election was that 'over 90 million people are unemployed!' by using the BLS labor force participation rate data, which, at the time, was roughly 63%. Two years later, the unemployment rate has dropped further, the economy is still cooking and guess where that LFPR is now?

63%.

My point is not that Trump sucks, or that Obama was great- it's that the president is only a small part of the equation. Trump is benefiting from both the Bush and Obama bailouts in that we're total awash in cheap cash right now. He's got great timing on his side, without a doubt. He'll be able to get away with tariffs right now, but if the economy blinks he's going to have to renegotiate those real fucking quick, and with interest rates going nowhere but up, that will get harder and harder.
13   Evan F.   2018 Oct 3, 11:19am  

Goran_K says
What was Obama's salary? $400,000 a year? Clinton's? Even less?

That doesn't bug you?


They're called 'speaking engagements' and 'book deals'and they pay handsomely. Ask Trump, he's pretty familiar with them.
14   bob2356   2018 Oct 3, 11:55am  

Evan F. says
he's really just a hack who had the good fortune to have a wealthy family and be invested in a lot of real estate at the right time.


Trump bankrupted some of the best properties in NY multiple times. Trump was a joke as an investor in NY. That's why he stopped doing his own projects and started branding. It was perfect, he made lots of money feeding his own unlimited ego. As a huckster trump is without equal. The best there is. As an investor/developer he failed time and time again.

I can't wait to see what comes out when someone looks into the identity of all the shell company buyers of Trump branded properties the last 15 years. I bet a lot of cyrillic will be found. or I should say a lot more, plenty has been found already.
15   Rin   2018 Oct 3, 12:04pm  

I have money in the bank and thus, I'm not jealous of Trump.

And since he didn't make his money, outsourcing science/engineering jobs, I have no reason to hate him for his real estate shenanigans.

On the other foot, if he were a STEM outsourcer, it wouldn't matter if my hedge fund did well ... I'd always hate that person.
16   Evan F.   2018 Oct 3, 12:12pm  

Rin says
And since he didn't make his money, outsourcing science/engineering jobs, I have no reason to hate him for his real estate shenanigans.


So in your book, it's potentially okay for someone to break the laws of the US Tax Code, but legally outsourcing jobs is deserving of unending ire?
17   Rin   2018 Oct 3, 12:22pm  

Evan F. says

So in your book, it's potentially okay for someone to break the laws of the US Tax Code, but legally outsourcing jobs is deserving of unending ire?


No, it's just I don't have the bandwidth to despise Angelo Mozilo, Donald Trump, and a slew of other white collar crooks. It's too big of a list to despise. Instead, I choose to pick on those who outsource science and engineering jobs.
18   Goran_K   2018 Oct 3, 12:55pm  

Evan F. says
but if the economy blinks he's going to have to renegotiate those real fucking quick, and with interest rates going nowhere but up, that will get harder and harder.


Uh he has negotiated them really quick. Did you notice NAFTA has gone bye bye, much to the benefit of American firms?

Sure, China is still on the horizon, but want to take bets on how that's going to go as well?
19   Goran_K   2018 Oct 3, 12:57pm  

Evan F. says
They're called 'speaking engagements' and 'book deals'and they pay handsomely


Clinton made $100,000,000 from "speaking engagements" like being paid $500,000 to speak at Goldman Sachs?

Why would Goldman Sachs pay Hillary, who as far as I know has very little experience as a stock broker, or financial management expert, half a million dollars to speak for 5 minutes at a company event?

Just because? Maybe there is something else implied?
20   WookieMan   2018 Oct 3, 1:40pm  

Evan F. says
Goran_K says
What was Obama's salary? $400,000 a year? Clinton's? Even less?

That doesn't bug you?


They're called 'speaking engagements' and 'book deals'and they pay handsomely. Ask Trump, he's pretty familiar with them.


So was the end goal to get these 'speaking engagements' and 'book deals' or to serve the American people? That's the big question. Of course Trump did speaking and books, but everyone knew that he was doing it to make a profit. Fuck, Mike Ditka, a bumbling idiot will still get some speaking fees for only winning one Super Bowl with questionably one of the best defenses of all time (should have been two or three - great motivational speaker...).

He wasn't elected to serve US though. He was a football coach. Trump was a real estate guy. Hilary was SOS, a Senator & first lady. All government positions (well not really on first lady). She got paid speaking fees like she was president. Call it what you will but the optics are bad at a minimum (hence that's why she's hated) and at max it's outright fraud. THIS is why Trump won. That and the disenfranchisement with both parties elites.
21   Shaman   2018 Oct 3, 1:49pm  

“Speaking engagements” which pay an absolutely excessive amount of money to currently serving (or spouses of currently serving) politicians are VERY CLEARLY BRIBES.
I don’t care about the guy who found some loopholes in the tax code and paid 50 million less in taxes than he otherwise would. I care about the guy who was given $50 million in “speaking engagement” bribes to influence the way our government operates which benefit certain companies and institutions and foreign powers to the tune of trillions!

Investing in bribing (lobbying is the nice word for this) government officials is always worth it because you get back (in special consideration) 100-10,000x what you pay. So if they bribed the Clintons $100 million, they got $100billion to 1 trillion back in special deals. Personally I think it was more.
22   mell   2018 Oct 3, 1:49pm  

Funny thing is regardless how great of a businessman Trump really is he was celebrated as the great template American business man by the same people for many years who now must rezist and claim he sucks at doing business! Can't make this shit up.
23   Goran_K   2018 Oct 3, 1:52pm  

Seriously, that was the point of my original post.

Fact: Obama and Hillary Clinton made millions from "speaking engagements" (aka corporate bribes)

Democrats: "So? Who cares? Rezizzssst! Occupy Wall Street!!!!!!!"

Total hypocrites blind to justice when it serves their own party.
24   mell   2018 Oct 3, 1:55pm  

Goran_K says
Seriously, that was the point of my original post.

Fact: Obama and Hillary Clinton made millions from "speaking engagements" (aka corporate bribes)

Democrats: "So? Who cares? Rezizzssst! Occupy Wall Street!!!!!!!"

Total hypocrites blind to justice when it serves their own party.


It's eye-opening and powerful to leave the leftoid plantation, anywhere, anytime.
25   Evan F.   2018 Oct 3, 2:20pm  

It's true that the optics of Clinton's speaking engagements look crappy. Unless she was doing it while in public office, I don't see the illegality of it.

https://www.npr.org/2016/08/17/490102648/the-clintons-wrote-the-book-on-how-politicians-climb-out-of-middle-class

And to lump Obama in with Clinton is absurd. All of his speaking engagement money has been made post-presidency; before that it was basically book revenues and salary.
26   WookieMan   2018 Oct 3, 2:40pm  

Evan F. says
It's true that the optics of Clinton's speaking engagements look crappy. Unless she was doing it while in public office, I don't see the illegality of it.


It's not about legality really. Didn't read the article fully in the link but did see the title and scanned though quickly, read like an Onion piece. The Clintons were NEVER middle class. That's laughable. Bill was a fucking Yale law grad! You don't think even at that time he could pull down six figures all day? Goes to attorney general and governor (which I'm sure he collects a pension from). Then President. How in the living fuck is that middle class?

Hillary also was a Yale law grad. Two Yale law degrees are even close to middle class? I'm not sure the point. The Clinton's were going to be millionaires by age 50 regardless of getting into politics. Obama was a Harvard grad. Are we getting the connection? Obama's path is the same, he's just younger. None were middle class once they graduated from their respective universities.

It's fine getting speaking fees after you're out of office, but it doesn't take away the turd smell.
27   marcus   2018 Oct 3, 9:49pm  

Goran_K says
I thought I'd never see the day.


This comment makes no sense. Got to get out of that bubble once in a while.

Goran_K says
Trump's net worth drops while being president, and the left mocks him.

Hillary Clinton and Obama get filthy rich as "public servants", and the left doesn't bat an eye.


THe left mock Trump becasue he would be way richer if he just sat on all the money he got from his father, and he has failed multiple times, and yet the Trump cucks think he's some kind of business genius.

As for intelligent respected politicians such as Obama getting rich off of books or speaking fees, yes, you're right I have no problem. I actually have no problem with rich people. Elon Musk is my hero.

I just don't like rich arrogant duechbags that have no idea how stupid they are. They think they are smart or they think they are successful, because of what they inherited.


Goran_K says
"speaking engagements" (aka corporate bribes)


OBama is getting his big speaking fees now. How are those bribes ? What will they get in the future from him ? Do you really think these were promised to Obama in the past ? That is, for something he did ?

Really ?

If you really think that, it speaks volumes about you, not Obama.

OBama was going to get huge speaking fees no matter what. Becasue he is highly respected in many circles, and he's a smart washington wonk, that has been President of the U.S. IT's the same reason they paid Clinton big speaking fees. But you can claim it's favors they got from Hillary.

What are they getting from Obama in the present or the future ?
28   marcus   2018 Oct 3, 10:09pm  

@ Goran: I think it just upsets you that the above average intelligence Presidents are always democrats. That's why they get paid.

Yes, I totally respect that.

Where as Trump in my view is some sort of grifter - con artist salesman. He's definitely gifted in some ways. And I believe he would have been moderately successful, even without daddy's money. But he's just real estate developer, backed by his father. And not one of the great real estate developers. I'm sorry, but he's just not that impressive a guy in my book. Not at all.

But if he creates a national health care plan for real. That is, "medicare for all," or something of that kind, I will change my mind !

If he ever leverages the populist support he's gotten from so many losers and racists in this country, to do some great things, then and only then will I change my mind.

Who knows ? Maybe he could turn around the republican party ? Anything is possible. But I'm not holding my breath.
29   bob2356   2018 Oct 4, 5:04am  

Goran_K says
Uh he has negotiated them really quick. Did you notice NAFTA has gone bye bye, much to the benefit of American firms?

Sure, China is still on the horizon, but want to take bets on how that's going to go as well?


. Nafta went bye bye? ROFLOL. There were a couple tweaks and a couple items lifted from TPP then the thing was renamed.

Don't bother to go all Hunter S Thompson gonzo trump commando on me. I thought Nafta was long overdue for review (without all the trump histrionics) and should have been looked at by both Bush and Obama. Unfortunately one was too busy creating a giant mess and the other cleaning it up to get it done. Nafta is 25 years old and all three countries have had considerable changes to their economies since it was signed. But to claim that trump pulled off some kind of sweeping overhaul is simply absurd. Like everything trump, minor changes major hype.
30   WookieMan   2018 Oct 4, 5:12am  

marcus says
Where as Trump in my view is some sort of grifter - con artist salesman.


Lol. I think you just listed the dictionary definition of every politician. They're all pieces of shit. Very, very few are true to their word.
31   bob2356   2018 Oct 4, 5:19am  

Goran_K says
Clinton made $100,000,000 from "speaking engagements" like being paid $500,000 to speak at Goldman Sachs?

Why would Goldman Sachs pay Hillary, who as far as I know has very little experience as a stock broker, or financial management expert, half a million dollars to speak for 5 minutes at a company event?

Just because? Maybe there is something else implied?


This is different from Bush, Rice, Bernake, Greenspan, Schwarzenegger, Obama etc., etc. collecting 150-250k a speech how exactly?

There is always something else implied when corporations and rich individuals give politico's (that would be politicos of BOTH parties for the people ideologically incapable of making that big a step in logic) large amounts of money. Duh.
32   bob2356   2018 Oct 4, 5:23am  

WookieMan says
marcus says
Where as Trump in my view is some sort of grifter - con artist salesman.


Lol. I think you just listed the dictionary definition of every politician. They're all pieces of shit. Very, very few are true to their word.


Yet the voters put them back in year after year. Who is the greater fool?
33   Goran_K   2018 Oct 4, 8:18am  

marcus says
This comment makes no sense. Got to get out of that bubble once in a while.


Okay. Maybe you're right. Obama and Hillary get paid $500,000 to eat fancy dinners and speak for 5 minutes in front of corporate boards because you know... they're famous.
34   Goran_K   2018 Oct 4, 8:21am  

bob2356 says
This is different from Bush, Rice, Bernake, Greenspan, Schwarzenegger, Obama etc., etc. collecting 150-250k a speech how exactly?


Nope!

But Democrats will slob Obama's dick all day long, and criticize Bush for serving "corporate interest" in the same breath. That's the difference.

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