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Men are not marrying, why?

By Shaman follow Shaman   2018 Oct 25, 2:34pm 10,479 views   191 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


So I was browsing YouTube and found this lady’s video. After five minutes or so or so-so content, it started to get interesting. She was talking about how men derive their identity and self respect from what they do, as opposed to women who derive it by what they are. When a man is free to compete and work with other men with men’s rules, work becomes meaningful. When women infiltrate and worse, demand changes to the culture of such a workplace, men lose meaning in their work, and might even come to regard it as an ongoing daily humiliation. Not to mention the whole thing with men and women where a man can have his self-defined role as father or husband taken away for no reason by a capricious wife, we begin to see marriage as a bear trap.
Watch the video if you’re interested in these issues. I’m interested to see what @Rin thinks as well.

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162   RC2006   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 4, 4:03pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

MAGA says
Why buy when you can rent?


Three Fs

If it flys, floats, or fucks, better off renting.
163   clambo   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 7, 5:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Anecdote for Patnet guys:

Saturday I got a call from an attractive not beautiful chubby female Haitian friend of mine. She said "It's my birthday today." "Oh, I guess someone should take you out to dinner then." Later, I got out of my comfy shorts and squeezed into long pants and a long sleeved shirt and took her to a modest but ok restaurant. She was thrilled. Later I opened my wallet and gave her some of the cash withholding some for scuba diving the next day. "I need to keep some $ they want us to tip the people who help us on the dive boat."
She: "I want to see you on my day off Wednesday too."

Sunday up at 3am for some reason, went diving in AM, back by 1:30 pm, tired and another female who is beautiful, in her 20's texts me "I need you".
"What's the problem?" "I need $200 today. I will come up and clean your place and do other things." "I will need to sleep first." "Let me know when you wake up."
I tried to sleep but the afternoon sun made it impossible so I vegged out then texted her "I'm too tired, I can't see you today." She texted back "I'll bring lotion and give you a massage, you'll be able to sleep." "I'm sorry." "OK" she gave up.

She may have been very shocked that my mood affected my interest in females more than other guys she may know. If I were 20 years younger I would have crawled over broken glass to see her.

Some of my married friends would say I am nuts to reject an offer of a gorgeous female in the afternoon but I didn't think her offer was reasonable.

I am filing this under the "Only in Florida" anecdotes.
164   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2019 Jan 7, 8:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

clambo says
She said "It's my birthday today." "Oh, I guess someone should take you out to dinner then."


clambo says
Later I opened my wallet and gave her some of the cash


clambo says
in her 20's texts me "I need you".
"What's the problem?" "I need $200 today.


So sad... maybe some day you'll wake up and realize why these women are contacting you.
165   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 7, 10:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

MrMagic says
So sad... maybe some day you'll wake up and realize why these women are contacting you.


Maybe Clambo wants to be like Rin?
166   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 7, 11:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Clambo is the fly zapper of predatory female aspirations. Dangle the dough, and let them crawl and compete like hookers at a porno audition, then kick them to the curb! Bravo!

Beware that in playing this game, one is nearly always brought to ground! Then, after they secure the life insurance with them as beneficiary, it is either fast poison or slow torture!

They have the same billion years of evolutionary strategy to outsmart you, but the egg always wins!
167   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2019 Jan 7, 11:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

zzyzzx says

Maybe Clambo wants to be like Rin?


Maybe, but he has a long way to go. Right now he's trolling along the bottom of the bottom, looking for dates.

He should go do this with a dollar bill in a trailer park, who knows what he could catch:

168   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 7, 11:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer says
Clambo is the fly zapper of predatory female aspirations. Dangle the dough, and let them crawl and compete like hookers at a porno audition, then kick them to the curb! Bravo!

Beware that in playing this game, one is nearly always brought to ground! Then, after they secure the life insurance with them as beneficiary, it is either fast poison or slow torture!

They have the same billion years of evolutionary strategy to outsmart you, but the egg always wins!


Of course it does, for the simple reason that age and death are inevitable, and the only winner can ever be the following generations. Brought to you by the egg.
169   Rin   ignore (7)   2019 Jan 7, 11:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Guys, this thread is growing old and boring.

Seriously, devoting this much mental power on the whole dating scam, as oppose to let's say undervalued dividend stocks, is a waste of time and energy.
170   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 7, 11:41am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

If you can't sublimate and thrive, BOINK HOES!
171   clambo   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 7, 8:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Ceffer "fly zapper" that's funny.

For Mr. Magic; The birthday girl contacted me because 1. she doesn't have a boyfriend 2. she wanted to go out for her birthday 3. she likes me too. 4. from decades of experience, I know that the only reason a female tells me it's her birthday is wishing to go out and eat, which I like to do also when I choose the place.

The birthday girl is not gorgeous and conceited. She has never asked me for money. For the record, I realize she's unable to make ends meet with no vices nor luxuries so if we see each other I don't mind giving her some "gas money."

The beautiful younger one seeking $200 called me and explained that her coworkers were all going on a trip someplace and she wanted to go with them. I said that wasn't reasonable and I'm not interested. We argued and she said I think I'm smarter than she because I'm white.

Of course the subject is boring sometimes; females are less interesting than life but more interesting than TV or sports.

All females like flowers, but they love money. The amount is up to you.
172   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 7, 8:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

We can connect with women if we don't objectify them.

If we don't objectify them we can make some amazing connections with ones that are not "hot", or that don't try to be "hot".

You might be surprised, get past that any you may even make some connections with lesbians who you'd otherwise think hate all men (and all straight women).

Try that some time, not objectifying them. Maybe one of those would become your best friend then partner, like mine did 31 years ago.
173   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 7, 8:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@clambo: hilarious, have you heard of the new super-hero 'florida man'?

https://www.reddit.com/r/FloridaMan/

Magic reminds me of my dad if my dad actually said what he's thinking more often. Older generation with horse blinders on refusing to see society burning down around them. "You're doing it wrong based on what worked for me in the good ol' days". THANKS BOOMERS!

Other than this particular topic I tend to agree with him though.

Rin is right but the markets are closed right now so...
174   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 7, 8:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Even this is a bad idea these days:

175   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2019 Jan 7, 8:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_dregalicious says
Magic reminds me of my dad if my dad actually said what he's thinking more often. Older generation with horse blinders on refusing to see society burning down around them. "You're doing it wrong based on what worked for me in the good ol' days". THANKS BOOMERS!


See, this is where you're wrong and "stuck in the matrix".

Being "older" than you, gives me much MORE experience and opportunities to see ALL generations. So, I've seen how my generation handles relationships.

I also have 3 Millennial kids, two who are married. I also know tons of their friends, and see the relationship situations with all of them. You'd be amazed what you can learn when you keep your eyes wide open, and don't succumb to the forces of the matrix.

Society is burning down, but it certainly ain't because of the Boomers.
176   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 7, 8:40pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

MrMagic says

I also have 3 Millennial kids, two who are married. I also know tons of their friends, and see the relationship situations with all of them. You'd be amazed what you can learn when you keep your eyes wide open,


I think this guy's an asshole for telling me it'd be stupid for me to help my kids pay off college loans if I had a million dollar windfall.

But, even assholes can be right some times. I totally concur with his comment.
177   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 7, 8:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

"how my generation handles relationships."

See what I mean? We aren't trying to marry YOUR generation. Ours doesn't work that way. I wish it did, I would have joined right in. Especially in commifornia.
178   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 7, 8:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I have hope for gen-z... I hear they have their heads screwed on straight.
179   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 7, 8:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

MrMagic says
ain't because of the Boomers


60s is when the divorce spike happened and shortly after that is when child birth out of wedlock did as well. Out here they're the ones who voted us all out of affordable real estate, ruined social security, ran up the national debt among other crap. That's why I honk at them in cross walks.

You aren't that much older than me, I can see as well.

So why sir do you think society is burning down?
180   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2019 Jan 7, 8:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_dregalicious says
Ours doesn't work that way.


That's exactly what I said:

MrMagic says
See, this is where you're wrong and "stuck in the matrix".


Maybe if you took some tips from the ones with more experience and knowledge, you and clambo wouldn't be trolling the sewers for dates.

Your generation is "The definition of Insanity". Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result.
181   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 7, 8:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

MrMagic says

Your generation is "The definition of Insanity". Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result.


There he goes again. But his kids and their friends are part of that generation. It's all about the individual, and the values of the individual.
182   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2019 Jan 7, 8:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
It's all about the individual, and the values of the individual.


Very Good! At least one person is paying attention.
183   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2019 Jan 7, 9:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_dregalicious says
You aren't that much older than me,


just_dregalicious says
Out here they're the ones who voted us all out of affordable real estate, ruined social security, ran up the national debt among other crap.


You do know you can vote at age 18, so that doesn't put you too far below them in voting power. It's nice that you're playing the blame game though, typical of your generation too. Lack of personal responsibility, another hallmark of the generation.

just_dregalicious says
I have hope for gen-z... I hear they have their heads screwed on straight.


Only if they can keep their faced OUT of Social Media and OUT of their phones 24/7. So far, that's not working out too well.
184   just_adhom_preaching   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 7, 9:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I see you didn't answer my question. Notice the generation divide in what's agreed upon? drops mic
185   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 7, 10:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

just_dregalicious says
Even this is a bad idea these days:


This is much better advice:



Best line in song eva:

Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'
You gotta have somethin' if you wanna be with me
I'm not tryna be your hero
'Cause that zero is too cold for me, brrr
I'm not tryin' to be your highness
'Cause that minus is too low to see, yeah
Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'
And I'm not stuffin', believe you me
Don't you remember I told ya
I'm a soldier in the war on poverty,
yeah, yes, I am
186   clambo   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 8, 4:50am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BACAH and Dregalicious have some points, although I differ to blaming "boomers" for society's ills today.

I too have female friends whom I enjoy time with; two are widows around my age who married older guys than they. A couple others are divorced or were never married.

"Florida man" is pretty funny; I noticed that Florida stories are weirder than California which I thought was impossible. Dailymail seems to have lots of Florida stories. In my small town the one of a kid who threw a small alligator into the drive through of wendy's caught my eye.

A small "unintended consequence" of Obamacare; drug and alcohol rehab is covered, so rehab centers in FL are a growing industry. The "graduates" tend to hang around and there are some very hard to detect severe drunks/kooks out there. A neighbor of mine was a retired engineer from NJ from some govt. job. Later I ran into him at the beach and he seemed a bit plastered. Later I didn't see him and my other neighbor told me "He was caught drunk and jerking off watching the girls playing volleyball in Jupiter. They sent him to jail and then rehab again."
187   clambo   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 8, 5:12am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Hey I just read that Mr. Magic said I"m "trolling the sewers for dates". That's bullshit and quit insulting me just because I don't subscribe to "buying the cow".

One danger of telling my stories truthfully is someone may not like them and then insults me.

The younger hotter female was frequently broke because she was working part time and going to some type of nursing school and drove a shitty car. When she got a flat tire, or the car broke down, I paid to fix it because I had the dough. She of course also made some requests which were unreasonable. This is not uncommon to her generation. In her defense, she was working two jobs after she got her certificate. She now works about 55 hours per week to save up for another car, her old one blew up and I told her to take Uber to work.

The drunk/pampered pooch whom I haven't seen in a year has a job also; she just thinks she's still dating a zillionaire up in Hutchinson Island. She actually makes about $1400/week my friend told me, but she likes to be wined and dined and won't accept the premise of a free booty call and Netlflix with a guy after work. Her view is reasonable, her tastes were too expensive and she was not as hot as she imagined she was. The Jamaican I dated briefly was introduced to me by a female friend who visited her at her small business.

The less hot one birthday girl has a full time job but is a single mother working 6 days per week and saving up the down payment for a small house, so her social life is limited. She also is socially conservative and a homebody.

Alll of the females mentioned in my stories were introduced to me, I'm not trolling a sewer, I'm not going online, I'm not trolling Facebook, they all work jobs. The pretty one who is in her 20's is frustrated that I am able to fix her "problems" but will not spend my money to do it. She has the quaint notion that people should "help" each other, "give back" to society, etc. which is drummed into their little heads in schools I guess. I say sink or swim honey, and it builds character too.
188   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 8, 7:04am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

She has the quaint notion that people should "help" each other, "give back" to society, etc.

Nothing wrong with helping those in need, but it seems here she is just using the "give back" as a guilt trip to get funds for herself. I always counter such logic with something like "What have you done to give back, and what are yo doing now so you will be in a position to give back in the future?"
191   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2019 Jan 8, 1:12pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

clambo says
Hey I just read that Mr. Magic said I"m "trolling the sewers for dates". That's bullshit and quit insulting me just because I don't subscribe to "buying the cow".

One danger of telling my stories truthfully is someone may not like them and then insults me.


Dude, they're not insults. You're "buying the cow" every time they call you, you take them out to dinner, then give them cash or pay for their problems or become their Knight in Shining Armor bailing them out of their own issues. You're just NOT getting all the other benefits of the relationship. You're going home by yourself.

You're insulting yourself, getting caught up in that drama, then paying the bill.

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