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Can you show a similar platform advocated by the democrats? Your silence will prove me right but feel free to link to the democrats platform so as to prove me wrong.
Can you show a similar platform advocated by the democrats?
Yes, I can. The libertarians are the ones with the platform of advocating for open boarders.
Can anyone refute this guy's argument against Democrat open border immigration?
Are Republicans any better at cutting social services, eliminating free public education, or prosecuting employers of illegals?
Goran_K saysIf so I'd like to hear the argument.Yes, I can. The libertarians are the ones with the platform of advocating for open boarders.https://openborders.info/libertarian/ Can you show a similar platform advocated by the democrats? Your silence will prove me right but feel free to link to the democrats platform so as to prove me wrong.
If so I'd like to hear the argument.
passport system, that didn't exist until WWII
What should be abolished is the welfare system.
give welfare to those citizens whose jobs are permanently automated forever.
Rin saysgive welfare to those citizens whose jobs are permanently automated forever.Does that mean stevedores should receive welfare after the invention of cranes? How about farmers after the invention of steam tractor? Of course then the steam engine mechanics after the invention of diesel engine for tractors? Then Combines and GPS-directed self-driving Combines?Only the old and truly disabled should be receiving charity . . . and private charity (i.e. run by competitive channels) can deal with frauds much more efficiently than government bureaucrats can.
Not this time around, those were the agricultural to industrial to service economy shifts.This time, however, there will be no future economy for anyone to move into, once AI eliminates all jobs. The problem with today is that the workforce has so many inefficiencies, that we can maintain a long term contracting (non-full time) workforce for at least another generation. Afterwards, however, it'll all be gone.
I asked you to show us where this proof of this Democratic open boarders platform was. None has been linked.These threads already exist and those discussions should happen in the appropriate places. Why should I discuss off topic issues here?
All of which is off topic and should be flagged.
Does ICE = boarder patrol?
What do sectuary cities have to do with open boarders?
Or what does SF registering illegals to vote for education issues at we're their legal kids go to school have to do with open boarders?
Countries like Kuwait, Qatar, UAE have more foreign-born population than native-born population (i.e. more than 50% are foreign-born).
Which is not open boarder. Tell me if Republicans really wanted a change made to the immigration policies why didn't they do something about it when they had control of the House and Senate?
really? Sounds like ICE is doing a terrible job. Why do they let them in if they are illegal?
No really, what do sanctuary Cities have to do with open boarders? They really are to separate issues.
I disagree, yet still is a separate issue as to open boarders.
And they don't let illegals in at the airport. Airlines are fined big league for having a passenger arrive without a passport. So please don't insult my intelligence and be honest and admit no illegals enter at the airport but they do become illegal when they overstay their visa. Which brings me to another question, can you please tell me how a wall is going to stop this practice of people overstaying thier visa?
I asked you a question, why, when Republicans had control of the House and Senate didn't they do anything about immigration?
No really, what do sanctuary Cities have to do with open boarders? They really are to separate issues
Goran_K saysHowever IMO you ignoring the topic Is the topic democrats open boarder policy? That's what I thought you said in the OP. I didn't know the topic was sanctuary cities or SF letting illegals vote for school board members or what ever other topic was brought up. So again I ask where is the link to democrats stating they want open boarders. Please I beg of you link to somewhere were I can see this open boarder policy that you say the Democrats have. I do not dispute that their policies encourage people to cross the boarder but that is not equal to having an open boarder platform. You have yet to prove me wrong.
However IMO you ignoring the topic
Goran_K saysthey would be admitting to their crimesUhhh? What crimes? I don't think libertarians are criminals because they have a platform that states they are for open boarders, do you?You are still avoiding the question, why didn't the Republicans do anything about immigration when they had a chance? This is the only party that Roy Beck implicates in the video above who has failed to do anything about immigration.
they would be admitting to their crimes
Goran_K saysAs explained above their policies are in effect open borders. They cannot legally call it that obviously, since they would be admitting to their crimes, but it is open borders through policy.No their policies are not in effect open boarder, you are wrong. Not one policy stated above has anything to do open boarders.
As explained above their policies are in effect open borders. They cannot legally call it that obviously, since they would be admitting to their crimes, but it is open borders through policy.
Goran_K saysTrump is doing plenty Trump is not Congress. Roy Beck clearly states Congress is the body that needs to deal with immigration.
Trump is doing plenty
Goran_K saysending chain migrationYou know his Trump's mother and father in law are here because of chain migration, right?
ending chain migration
Those are Slaves... I mean, guest workers who have their passports taken and regularly beaten and abused. Kuwaitis flipped out when the government mandated a single day off for "Domestic (Slave) Laborers".
Also, Germany, Russia, France, UK, Brazil, etc. are Real Regular to Large sized countries, not little Sultanates like Kuwait or Qatar with a long history of living off slave labor and producing nothing but repacking exports between east and west with a markup
Which is why, despite tepid GDP growth since 2000, we have unjustifiably high, 1910s levels of Foreign Born. It's also why housing costs have exploded.
Democrats open borders using The same tear gas used on migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border on Sunday was also used under the Obama administration?Figures from Homeland Security show the tear gas was deployed almost 80 times during Obama's later yearsDoes tear gas open the borders?
Because niether party wants to upset the status quo. See how easy it is to answer a question, see how that works?. Now can you do it? Why didn't the Republicans?
I don't think this is true. Why can't the democrats advocate for open borders? What law would they be breaking?
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