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The solution is more diversity training.

The African American who had a cell phone recording in his right hand was the first to throw a punch or engage in physical contact.

I wonder if the white dude who got first punched said something real offensive to trigger the black dude. I would not put it past something like that happening.

Still the black dude should be charged with assault. And he did not look homeless. So probably could find him at his place of work or at his home.

AD says

I wonder if the white dude who got first punched said something real offensive to trigger the black dude. I would not put it past something like that happening.

Still the black dude should be charged with assault.

Depends on what the white dude said/did. if something very offensive/threatening, then black guy should be let off

d6rB says

AD says

I wonder if the white dude who got first punched said something real offensive to trigger the black dude. I would not put it past something like that happening.

Still the black dude should be charged with assault.

Depends on what the white dude said/did. if something very offensive/threatening, then black guy should be let off

Sorry bro, you can't physically assault someone over words.

#fuckinganimal

WineHorror1 says

Sorry bro, you can't physically assault someone over words.

That is how E. Europe is different from US - and this goes together with not helping someone when he/she is in trouble from hooligans, such as in http://patrick.net/post/1323310/2019-03-22-soyboys-film-as-man-assaults-old-lady-on-subway
Be impolite and suffer consequences. As Russians say, the polite man has the best teeth

d6rB says

WineHorror1 says

Sorry bro, you can't physically assault someone over words.

That is how E. Europe is different from US - and this goes together with not helping someone when he/she is in trouble from hooligans, such as in http://patrick.net/post/1323310/2019-03-22-soyboys-film-as-man-assaults-old-lady-on-subway
Be impolite and suffer consequences. As Russians say, the polite man has the best teeth

Let me see if I understand you correctly. Are you saying the man who started the physical assault AND also committed the stabbing, is the one with moral standing?

WineHorror1 says

d6rB says

WineHorror1 says

Sorry bro, you can't physically assault someone over words.

That is how E. Europe is different from US - and this goes together with not helping someone when he/she is in trouble from hooligans, such as in http://patrick.net/post/1323310/2019-03-22-soyboys-film-as-man-assaults-old-lady-on-subway
Be impolite and suffer consequences. As Russians say, the polite man has the best teeth

Let me see if I understand you correctly. Are you saying the man who started the physical assault AND also committed the stabbing, is the one with moral standing?

"He was defending his honor!"

WineHorror1 says

Let me see if I understand you correctly. Are you saying the man who started the physical assault AND also committed the stabbing, is the one with moral standing?

If someone would come to a person and say "you are a fucking prick" I would think that hitting the rude person in mouth would be perfectly justifiable.
I do not know about the situation in original post because I do not know what was said/done before the assault.

The Bay Area is such a shit hole.

d6rB says

WineHorror1 says

Let me see if I understand you correctly. Are you saying the man who started the physical assault AND also committed the stabbing, is the one with moral standing?

If someone would come to a person and say "you are a fucking prick" I would think that hitting the rude person in mouth would be perfectly justifiable.
I do not know about the situation in original post because I do not know what was said/done before the assault.

Good luck with that defense in court.

Offensive words are not protected, meaning they can hit back. That has been reinforced by courts many times.

Just FYI

FortWayneIndiana says

Offensive words are not protected, meaning they can hit back. That has been reinforced by courts many times.

Just FYI

Can you provide an example? Also, how is it that courts have said you can flip off a cop?

I had a cop tell me that during a seminar.

It does check out, fighting words aren’t protected. Otherwise you can stand on the corner calling everyone a faggot, and sue if they punch you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

WineHorror1 says

FortWayneIndiana says

Offensive words are not protected, meaning they can hit back. That has been reinforced by courts many times.

Just FYI

Can you provide an example? Also, how is it that courts have said you can flip off a cop?

FortWayneIndiana says

stand on the corner calling everyone a faggot, and sue if they punch you.

Why would someone in SF punch you for complimenting them?

FortWayneIndiana says

I had a cop tell me that during a seminar.

It does check out, fighting words aren’t protected. Otherwise you can stand on the corner calling everyone a faggot, and sue if they punch you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

WineHorror1 says

FortWayneIndiana says

Offensive words are not protected, meaning they can hit back. That has been reinforced by courts many times.

Just FYI

Can you provide an example? Also, how is it that courts have said you can flip off a cop?

Well, that's interesting. I'll have to stop calling people faggots and assholes, I guess.