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What Actual Climate Change Scientists Have to Say About the Data: One

By WillPowers follow WillPowers   2019 Sep 13, 11:47pm 314 views   16 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


If climate change is occurring, why do I keep hearing actual climate change scientists refuting the claims made by the mainstream media? Sure, there’s always going to be a few skeptics, but these scientist are more than that. It seems every non-climate change scientist has an opinion on climate change and this thing has become like a religion for people. And any scientist that spews out the dogma they like to hear is their guy even if their expertise is in astronomy.

In two separate interviews hosted by Joe Rogan, he asked his guest, who happened to be experts in unrelated fields of research, for their opinion on climate change, with the caveat, “somethings happening,” he didn’t know what, but “something was going on,” whatever that means. You always hear the consensus opinion, that 98% of scientists agree, climate change is occurring. One climate change scientist, Dr. Soon a climate change expert said, the way they get those statistics is by asking questions like, ‘Will the weather change?’

‘Yes!’

CONCLUSION: you believe in climate change.

He’s very amusing and he makes fun of all the nonsense charts and graphs that only prove one thing: the weather changes: it gets warmer and cooler, especially in summer and winter.

It's Called:

Global Warming: Fact or Fiction? Featuring Physicists Willie Soon and Elliott Bloom
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•Published on Aug 16, 2019

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1   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2019 Sep 14, 7:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

For many climate alarmist believers the cognitive dissonance of no warming is becoming too great.
2   HEYYOU   ignore (46)   2019 Sep 14, 10:42am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Two climate scientist! What do the other 97-99% of scientists say?
3   HEYYOU   ignore (46)   2019 Sep 14, 11:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

" We are aggressively headed back up to 15 C GAST in a year or two and it will be hot and lots of crops will die in the fields that used to be bountiful.

16 C GAST will kill at least half the people on the Earth with tremendous storms and heat waves, and droughts and food riots and wars over agricultural land. Civilization in most areas of the Earth will collapse.

17 C will kill most of the rest of us with Tremendous Climate Disruption."


http://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2019/09/global-post-industrial-revolution.html
4   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2019 Sep 14, 11:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
Two climate scientist! What do the other 97-99% of scientists say?

Yeah! Where is Michael Moore? When will he release his "Hockey Stick" data?
5   marcus   ignore (12)   2019 Sep 14, 11:54am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

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WillPowers says
What Actual Climate Change Scientists Have to Say About the Data: One


Good job ! Way to make your case !!

What does it tell you, that the best "expert" you can find to make your case, not only is not a climate scientist, but also is well documented to have been paid millions by the American Petroleum Institute and others for his work denying AGW.

His theories have been widely refuted, 13 scientists staked their reputations in a group paper refuting his theories, and some journals that published his work have admitted to fucking up regarding disclosure requirements (about his funding).

Who knew you could make such a good living, getting paid by the Koch brothers and others for making up alternate theories about global warming ?
6   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2019 Sep 14, 1:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
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WillPowers says
What Actual Climate Change Scientists Have to Say About the Data: One


Good job ! Way to make your case !!

What does it tell you, that the best "expert" you can find to make your case, not only is not a climate scientist, but also is well documented to have been paid millions by the American Petroleum Institute and others for his work denying AGW.

His theories have been widely refuted, 13 scientists staked their reputations in a group paper refuting his theories, and some journals that published his work have admitted to fucking up regarding disclosure requirements (about his funding).

Who knew you could make such a good living, getting paid by the Koch brothers and others for making up alternate theories about global warming ?


Seems valid.

I encourage you to also consider the larger amount of funding poured into the university/ngo system that push and propagandize global warming.

https://www.gao.gov/mobile/key_issues/climate_change_funding_management/issue_summary

$26.1 billion of public money to global warming initiatives in one year. This is more than the koch brothers are worth... handed out to Obama's global warming friends IN ONE YEAR.

Tell us more about Koch money influence please?
7   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2019 Sep 14, 2:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says

His theories have been widely refuted, 13 scientists staked their reputations in a group paper refuting his theories

Link to said scientists' paper please.
9   marcus   ignore (12)   2019 Sep 14, 4:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Tell us more about Koch money influence please?


A lot of people are going to see a difference between the government spending money to better understand a problem that is accepted by virtually everyone (including for example the Pentagon), than the American Petroleum institute backing someone to do research into how and why an accepted problem is not a problem.
10   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2019 Sep 14, 5:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No one knows....they converse in Libfuck...
HEYYOU says
Two climate scientist! What do the other 97-99% of scientists say?
11   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2019 Sep 14, 5:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
A lot of people are going to see a difference between


Translation: 24.1 billion per year to create a narrative = no big deal.

Koch brothers donating a free hundred thousand to independent research which contradicts the narrative = EVIDENCE OF FRAUD FOR POWER.

Let's say you 're a sleazy scientist. How would you guarantee your wealthy, plush life? Via a pool of a few million or a pool of 24.1 billion?

Hmmm.... heres where marcus drops an orange man bad meme instead of respond
12   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2019 Sep 14, 5:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
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Onvacation says
Link to said scientists' paper please.


Here is AGU report on paper.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100117140755/http://www.agu.org/news/press/pr_archives/2003/prrl0319.html


This is from 2003. All their forecasts have already NOT happened.
13   marcus   ignore (12)   2019 Sep 14, 6:19pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
All their forecasts have already NOT happened.


What's it like to live in a bubble of right wing fake news ?

Let me guess, you're going to find one Al Gore quote about what some guy said might happen ? You certainly aren't going to talk about most of the models.
14   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2019 Sep 14, 6:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
CBOEtrader says
All their forecasts have already NOT happened.


What's it like to live in a bubble of right wing fake news ?

Let me guess, you're going to find one Al Gore quote about what some guy said might happen ? You certainly aren't going to talk about most of the models.


Which model specifically do you feel we should evaluate?
15   marcus   ignore (12)   2019 Sep 14, 6:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Hmmm.... heres where marcus drops an orange man bad meme instead of respond


So what you're saying is that any real concern that scientists ever come up with, can not be real, because once they identify it, and start getting government money to explore it further, it has been irrevocably corrupted by the academic community's thirst and greed for more government research funds. You're saying: "peer reviewed my ass. All they care about is money - there is no reliable data or correct theories - it's all just pretend analysis and fake intelligence putting on a fraudulent show for money."

In this case we lucked out though, becasue luckily there happened to be a truly huge entrenched industry that stood to lose trillions if those the lies were believed, and they found one or two brave scientist that were intelligent enough and having enough integrity to stand up to all of the corrupt academic institutions.
16   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2019 Sep 14, 7:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Here is AGU report on paper.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100117140755/http://www.agu.org/news/press/pr_archives/2003/prrl0319.html


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the article is from 2003
I stopped reading when I saw that Michael Mann, the pseudoscientist who wont share his data, is leading the group. His hockey stick theory has been thoroughly discredited by observation.

Name one reputable climate scientist that believes in catastrophic AGW?

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