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What Actual Climate Change Scientists Have to Say About the Data: One


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2019 Sep 13, 11:47pm   696 views  14 comments

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If climate change is occurring, why do I keep hearing actual climate change scientists refuting the claims made by the mainstream media? Sure, there’s always going to be a few skeptics, but these scientist are more than that. It seems every non-climate change scientist has an opinion on climate change and this thing has become like a religion for people. And any scientist that spews out the dogma they like to hear is their guy even if their expertise is in astronomy.

In two separate interviews hosted by Joe Rogan, he asked his guest, who happened to be experts in unrelated fields of research, for their opinion on climate change, with the caveat, “somethings happening,” he didn’t know what, but “something was going on,” whatever that means. You always hear the consensus opinion, that 98% of scientists agree, climate change is occurring. One climate change scientist, Dr. Soon a climate change expert said, the way they get those statistics is by asking questions like, ‘Will the weather change?’

‘Yes!’

CONCLUSION: you believe in climate change.

He’s very amusing and he makes fun of all the nonsense charts and graphs that only prove one thing: the weather changes: it gets warmer and cooler, especially in summer and winter.

It's Called:

Global Warming: Fact or Fiction? Featuring Physicists Willie Soon and Elliott Bloom
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•Published on Aug 16, 2019

SEE:
www.youtube.com/embed/1zrejG-WI3U

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1   Onvacation   2019 Sep 14, 7:51am  

For many climate alarmist believers the cognitive dissonance of no warming is becoming too great.
2   Onvacation   2019 Sep 14, 11:36am  

HEYYOU says
Two climate scientist! What do the other 97-99% of scientists say?

Yeah! Where is Michael Moore? When will he release his "Hockey Stick" data?
3   marcus   2019 Sep 14, 11:54am  

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WillPowers says
What Actual Climate Change Scientists Have to Say About the Data: One


Good job ! Way to make your case !!

What does it tell you, that the best "expert" you can find to make your case, not only is not a climate scientist, but also is well documented to have been paid millions by the American Petroleum Institute and others for his work denying AGW.

His theories have been widely refuted, 13 scientists staked their reputations in a group paper refuting his theories, and some journals that published his work have admitted to fucking up regarding disclosure requirements (about his funding).

Who knew you could make such a good living, getting paid by the Koch brothers and others for making up alternate theories about global warming ?
4   CBOEtrader   2019 Sep 14, 1:37pm  

marcus says
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WillPowers says
What Actual Climate Change Scientists Have to Say About the Data: One


Good job ! Way to make your case !!

What does it tell you, that the best "expert" you can find to make your case, not only is not a climate scientist, but also is well documented to have been paid millions by the American Petroleum Institute and others for his work denying AGW.

His theories have been widely refuted, 13 scientists staked their reputations in a group paper refuting his theories, and some journals that published his work have admitted to fucking up regarding disclosure requirements (about his funding).

Who knew you could make such a good living, getting paid by the Koch brothers and others for making up alternate theories about global warming ?


Seems valid.

I encourage you to also consider the larger amount of funding poured into the university/ngo system that push and propagandize global warming.

https://www.gao.gov/mobile/key_issues/climate_change_funding_management/issue_summary

$26.1 billion of public money to global warming initiatives in one year. This is more than the koch brothers are worth... handed out to Obama's global warming friends IN ONE YEAR.

Tell us more about Koch money influence please?
5   Onvacation   2019 Sep 14, 2:46pm  

marcus says

His theories have been widely refuted, 13 scientists staked their reputations in a group paper refuting his theories

Link to said scientists' paper please.
7   marcus   2019 Sep 14, 4:34pm  

CBOEtrader says
Tell us more about Koch money influence please?


A lot of people are going to see a difference between the government spending money to better understand a problem that is accepted by virtually everyone (including for example the Pentagon), than the American Petroleum institute backing someone to do research into how and why an accepted problem is not a problem.
8   Y   2019 Sep 14, 5:09pm  

No one knows....they converse in Libfuck...
HEYYOU says
Two climate scientist! What do the other 97-99% of scientists say?
9   CBOEtrader   2019 Sep 14, 5:42pm  

marcus says
A lot of people are going to see a difference between


Translation: 24.1 billion per year to create a narrative = no big deal.

Koch brothers donating a free hundred thousand to independent research which contradicts the narrative = EVIDENCE OF FRAUD FOR POWER.

Let's say you 're a sleazy scientist. How would you guarantee your wealthy, plush life? Via a pool of a few million or a pool of 24.1 billion?

Hmmm.... heres where marcus drops an orange man bad meme instead of respond
10   CBOEtrader   2019 Sep 14, 5:44pm  

marcus says
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Onvacation says
Link to said scientists' paper please.


Here is AGU report on paper.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100117140755/http://www.agu.org/news/press/pr_archives/2003/prrl0319.html


This is from 2003. All their forecasts have already NOT happened.
11   marcus   2019 Sep 14, 6:19pm  

CBOEtrader says
All their forecasts have already NOT happened.


What's it like to live in a bubble of right wing fake news ?

Let me guess, you're going to find one Al Gore quote about what some guy said might happen ? You certainly aren't going to talk about most of the models.
12   CBOEtrader   2019 Sep 14, 6:27pm  

marcus says
CBOEtrader says
All their forecasts have already NOT happened.


What's it like to live in a bubble of right wing fake news ?

Let me guess, you're going to find one Al Gore quote about what some guy said might happen ? You certainly aren't going to talk about most of the models.


Which model specifically do you feel we should evaluate?
13   marcus   2019 Sep 14, 6:27pm  

CBOEtrader says
Hmmm.... heres where marcus drops an orange man bad meme instead of respond


So what you're saying is that any real concern that scientists ever come up with, can not be real, because once they identify it, and start getting government money to explore it further, it has been irrevocably corrupted by the academic community's thirst and greed for more government research funds. You're saying: "peer reviewed my ass. All they care about is money - there is no reliable data or correct theories - it's all just pretend analysis and fake intelligence putting on a fraudulent show for money."

In this case we lucked out though, becasue luckily there happened to be a truly huge entrenched industry that stood to lose trillions if those the lies were believed, and they found one or two brave scientist that were intelligent enough and having enough integrity to stand up to all of the corrupt academic institutions.
14   Onvacation   2019 Sep 14, 7:07pm  

marcus says
Here is AGU report on paper.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100117140755/http://www.agu.org/news/press/pr_archives/2003/prrl0319.html


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the article is from 2003
I stopped reading when I saw that Michael Mann, the pseudoscientist who wont share his data, is leading the group. His hockey stick theory has been thoroughly discredited by observation.

Name one reputable climate scientist that believes in catastrophic AGW?

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