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The oil facility probably had information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

But Trump hates Iran and likes Saudi Arabia. As Iran and Israel are enemies, backing Iran is not possible for Trump. And the Sauds are aligned with the FBI as well.

willywonka says

But Trump hates Iran and likes Saudi Arabia. As Iran and Israel are enemies, backing Iran is not possible for Trump. And the Sauds are aligned with the FBI as well.

Yeah, I don't like this. Seems something is off with this. Also kind of strange right after Bolton left his position. We've gone a long stretch here without escalating some situation and I wouldn't be surprised to find out this gets pegged on Iran. Yes Saudi's deserve it, but I hope it doesn't involve getting tied up in some bullshit. As the oil supplies dry up sometime in the future in this region, these barbarians will fall off of everyone's radar and just keep killing each other. Just get out of the middle east entirely and we'll be better off.

Just get out of the middle east entirely and we'll be better off.

+1000

The aramco IPO was supposed to be soon, right?

I always think of big money when stuff like this happens, although I suspect this incident might be much more given recent events.

Yemen’s Iranian-aligned Houthi rebels claimed credit for the attack, saying they sent 10 drones to strike at important facilities in Saudi Arabia’s oil-rich Eastern Province.

If it is that easy for a small group to attack infrastructure with drones, I wonder if we will see drone strikes become common place. Iran itself may see an attack next.

HeadSet says

Yemen’s Iranian-aligned Houthi rebels claimed credit for the attack, saying they sent 10 drones to strike at important facilities in Saudi Arabia’s oil-rich Eastern Province.

If it is that easy for a small group to attack infrastructure with drones, I wonder if we will see drone strikes become common place. Iran itself may see an attack next.

Technology makes it possible for a small group to truly threaten a larger group. It’s a scaling effect.

willywonka says

But Trump hates Iran and likes Saudi Arabia. As Iran and Israel are enemies, backing Iran is not possible for Trump. And the Sauds are aligned with the FBI as well.

We don't have to support Iran. They are also wackos infected with Islam, though not quite as badly as Saudi Arabia is.

The really important thing is to hold Saudi Arabia to account for 9/11 and to tell the truth about Saudi support and funding for terror worldwide. We should expropriate their assets as partial compensation for 9/11 and stop defending them.

Booger says

The oil facility probably had information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

lol

Oddly, looks like they think they can quickly recover. The article said:

Officials said they hoped to restore production to its regular level of 9.8 million barrels a day by Monday.

Does this make the US the worlds largest oil producer, if we're not already?

psh, we already got that checkmark
https://www.bizvibe.com/blog/energy-and-fuels/top-oil-producing-countries/
https://www.eia.gov/beta/international/rankings/#?prodact=53-1&cy=2018&pid=53&aid=1&tl_id=1-A&tl_type=a



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US presidents have been talking about the grave importance of energy independence for our national security for many decades. When we recently eeked our way to #1 producer, it went silently uncelebrated. But, we finally achieved it.

Hircus says

Oddly, looks like they think they can quickly recover. The article said:

Officials said they hoped to restore production to its regular level of 9.8 million barrels a day by Monday.

Yes, it seems unlikely that they can recover that quickly.

Dholliday126 says

Oil will rocket to 80 and the market will crash 1000 points Monday, that why we are there.

Maybe Tesla stock will skyrocket and I can buy some put options. Made good money with puts after "funding secured."

Well, this is good news for us. Our big oil exports are about to get pricier.

Also, I think Iran is very desperate.

And interestingly, Vox and other leftist groups seem to be trying to get in front of some upcoming disclosure, that AQ and Iran may have worked together against the Great Satan, a mutual enemy.

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/14/18678809/usa-iran-war-aumf-911-trump-pompeo

Also, @Patrick, the name of the individual redacted even from the "28 Pages" is set to be decided soon by the Trump DOJ.

I think Trump should release it. He can remind everybody that Bush AND Obama refused to allow the 911 families a shot at a lawsuit.

EDIT: It's going to be released, Trump DOJ says.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/12/politics/fbi-9-11-saudi-name/index.html

Holy shit if it's Alwaleed bin Talal or one of his underlings or allies.

Sunni V Shia, been going on for many centuries. Best we stay out of it...But judging from Pompeo's remarks and Trump's dealings with the Saudis we will not. What was the first foreign country Trump visited?

rdm says

What was the first foreign country Trump visited?

Yes, support for the Saudis is Trump's most significant failure as president.

In most things, Trump has done well. But not in being honest about the Saudis or holding them accountable for their crimes.

HonkpilledMaster says

Holy shit if it's Alwaleed bin Talal

I met someone who went to school with him at Menlo College. Not a friend of his, but they had a class with him.

The Napoleonic Code of International Treachery and Warmongering: It's a false flag until proven otherwise.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/oil-prices-likely-to-surge-at-sundays-opening-after-a-different-type-of-saudi-arabia-disruption

The market reaction heard among oil observers about the attacks on the Saudi facilities come down to one statement: this one is different.

It’s different because it was carried out by as many as 15 drones–estimated cost per drone, about $15,000, total, about $225,000 to send prices soaring–and because this relatively cheap investment in equipment resulted in Saudi Arabia being forced to cut its production in half.

I wonder if Tesla stock is going to go up on Monday.

Details about the drones:

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/how-yemen-s-iran-backed-rebels-weaponized-drones-against-saudi-arabia-1.7271998

https://www.salon.com/2016/01/06/saudi_arabia_funds_and_exports_islamic_extremism_the_truth_behind_the_toxic_u_s_relationship_with_the_theocratic_nation/

In the wake of the Paris and San Bernardino attacks, the West has again asked itself what it can do to stop Islamic extremism -- while it is actively supporting Saudi Arabia, the world's principal proselytizer of Islamic extremism.

If it is truly interested in stopping terrorism, then, the U.S. and the rest of the West will heed Chomsky's advice. The U.S. will realize that there really is an easy way to stop terrorism: It will stop participating in it, and end its alliance with Saudi Arabia.

Were "locked and loaded" baby. If Trump attacks Iran because of this attack on Saudi Arabia involving a Sunni V Shia conflict in fuckin Yemen he is either more of an imbecile then even I suspected or totally in the Saudis pocket.

Sad to say, he is in the Saudis' pocket for sure.

18 years ago only we had drones and they were lumbering insecure at that.

Now Houthis send 10 and potentially disrupt a good part of global energy.

How times have changed.

Soon Pygmies will be able to nuke us from orbit.

just_dregalicious says

Soon Pygmies will be able to nuke us from orbit.

Fuck the environment, Get yer ass to Mars.

And for the love of God, split up and disarm Pakistan

Patrick says

Sad to say, he is in the Saudis' pocket for sure.

And the worst thing is that his supporters don't have the balls to hold him accountable for anything. They just lie on their backs and get reamed with a big smile on their sad faces. It's pathetic

just_dregalicious says

Now Houthis send 10 and potentially disrupt a good part of global energy

And who could have possibly foreseen that?

Now the claims are the drones were launched from Iran, not Yemen. Who knows? But that would seem really stupid. The Iranians are not stupid.

Regardless no Americans involved, this a Saudi problem. I will give Trump credit for not being a war monger, still not sure he will resist being the KSA protection force. You know a future Tump Mecca Hotel might just bring it on.

rdm says

But that would seem really stupid. The Iranians are not stupid.

I agree that this is a Saudi problem and we should stay away from any bull shit. To say the Iranians are smart is laughable though. They literally have drilled wells that print money and they've managed to fuck that up. It's the closest thing to a tree growing money and they've somehow fucked it up. They are no where near smart and frankly are barbarians because of the fictitious book called the Quran and their made up religion.

At some point just let them kill each other and not our own citizens and we can just swoop in later and take those money wells and at least attempt to make the world better instead of tearing it down for Allah. Not that America or Western powers are perfect by any stretch, but we for sure are far smarter.

BigFrank says

And the worst thing is that his supporters don't have the balls to hold him accountable for anything. They just lie on their backs and get reamed with a big smile on their sad faces. It's pathetic

Whereas Obama's famous Red Lines really held back the bad guys.

rdm says

And who could have possibly foreseen that?

Now the claims are the drones were launched from Iran, not Yemen.

Coulda beya false flag!

BigFrank says

And the worst thing is that his supporters don't have the balls to hold him accountable for anything. They just lie on their backs and get reamed with a big smile on their sad faces. It's pathetic

The democrats have abandoned the interests of a large portion of Americans.

People will support the politician that supports them best. Trump would need to do some seriously bad shit before people will feel that a current-gen democrat is a better choice.

It's not a hard choice when they answer in Spanish before English, and proudly vow to tax you more so that they can give free healthcare to illegals. Now that's getting reamed lol. Enjoy the chorizo in your ass.

Patrick says

Sad to say, he is in the Saudis' pocket for sure.

Yup, a vote for Trump is a vote in support for the same people who carried out 9/11 on our once Great Country. How sad and pathetic are Trump supporters?

They are all dead. Unless you want to crucify a whole race for what some people did some things for.

BigFrank says

Yup, a vote for Trump is a vote in support for the same people who carried out 9/11

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Why-The-Saudis-Are-Lying-About-Their-Oil-Production.html

The other measure that Saudi is taking - which it has vehemently denied but OilPrice.com can confirm from various oil trading sources and from sources in the Iraq Oil Ministry – is looking to buy Iraq oil grades, which are close to the key export grades that Saudi ships to various destinations, including Asia. ...

“A number of the Iraqi grades are close in specifications to their Saudi counterparts, and part of this activity by Saudi to fill customer supply quotas for these grades is to make sure that the demand we are still seeing for such Iranian grades from Asia, but mainly China, is not boosted to make up for the shortfall from Saudi.,” a senior source who works closely with Iraq’s Oil Ministry told OilPrice.com.

The supreme irony, of course - as OilPrice.com has repeatedly underlined, and as many in the oil markets now know, although apparently not the Saudis - is that a cornerstone strategy used by Iran to circumvent current U.S. sanctions against it (as was also the case in the previous period of sanctions) is to rebrand its oil into Iraqi oil, which is extremely easily done, both at the massive and porous border between the two or via various pipeline and shipping routes.

It may well be, then, that Saudi Arabia ends up boosting the bank accounts of the very people that it thinks was behind the attacks on its own oil infrastructure, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps – a staunch and active supporter of Yemen’s Houthis - through its various oil-industry associated businesses by buying Iranian oil, albeit with the stickers changed on the barrels.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security/yemens-houthis-say-attacked-saudi-border-frontline-no-immediate-saudi-confirmation-idUSKBN1WD0FO

The Houthis’ military spokesman said in a statement that three “enemy military brigades had fallen” in the attack, which he said was launched 72 hours ago and supported by the group’s drone, missile and air defense units.

Houthi-run Al Masirah TV quoted the spokesman as saying the Iran-aligned movement had captured “thousands” of enemy troops, including many officers and soldiers of the Saudi army, as well as hundreds of armored vehicles.

The spokesman for a Saudi-led military coalition that has been battling the Houthi group for over four years in Yemen did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment.

Reuters could not independently verify the claim.

If true, this is yet more good news.

The Saudi fucks who murdered thousands of Americans on 9/11 should be wiped off the earth.

I know the Houthis are nuts as well, but they are not in control of the US government via petro-dollars, which makes them much more likable.

Looks like the Houthis were telling the truth. They scored quite a victory over the Saudi scum in that battle:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/yemen-houthi-rebels-release-saudi-attack-video-190929130644121.html

Yemen's Houthi rebels on Sunday broadcast footage they said was of a major attack on Saudi Arabia in August that killed or wounded 500 soldiers with thousands of others surrendering.

Yahya Saree, a Houthi military spokesman, described an ambush on the Saudi forces that then developed into an "all-out" cross-border offensive that trapped the troops inside Saudi Arabia.

"More than 200 were killed in dozens of [missile and drone] strikes while trying to escape or surrender," Saree said.

The fighting took place in the southern region of Najran with video images aired showing armoured vehicles hit by blasts and surrendering soldiers.