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Joe Biden's son's corrupt dealings with Ukraine exposed
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2019 Sep 22, 2:55pm 3,921 views 109 comments
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marcus
2019 Sep 22, 3:19pm
marcus
2019 Sep 22, 3:19pm
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Patrick says
But I thought conflict of interest and corruption was what you guys like about Trump.
I guess perhaps it works the other way with the libs. So you're probably correct, it was "right," of Trump, becasue even if this kind of thing can actually be a political positive on the right, it isn't on the left.
Any President worth their salt, when dealing in international affairs with foreign leaders, should use any and all opportunities that arise to improve their political chances in the next election, especially if the said leader has some indirect information, or the ability to do an investigation that may reflect negatively on the candidate that the President is most afraid of running against. What could be more important in international relations than gaining an edge over an opponent in the next election at home. Foreign leaders owe it to America to help provide any dirt they can on Trumps possible political opponents.
Trumps unabashed self interest in this case is just one more example of how "refreshing(™)" Trump's Presidency is.
Patrick says
It was right of Trump
But I thought conflict of interest and corruption was what you guys like about Trump.
I guess perhaps it works the other way with the libs. So you're probably correct, it was "right," of Trump, becasue even if this kind of thing can actually be a political positive on the right, it isn't on the left.
Any President worth their salt, when dealing in international affairs with foreign leaders, should use any and all opportunities that arise to improve their political chances in the next election, especially if the said leader has some indirect information, or the ability to do an investigation that may reflect negatively on the candidate that the President is most afraid of running against. What could be more important in international relations than gaining an edge over an opponent in the next election at home. Foreign leaders owe it to America to help provide any dirt they can on Trumps possible political opponents.
Trumps unabashed self interest in this case is just one more example of how "refreshing(™)" Trump's Presidency is.
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Sep 22, 6:18pm
Patrick says
Hunter's behavior is unethical is hardly the issue. Are you saying Joe shouldn't be elected president because of his unethical son? No, the fundamental problem is Joe and his actions that were clearly on display.
We do not expect that foreign countries and foreign businesses will work towards the best interest of USA citizens, but we expect Joe Biden to do so when acting as an elected representative of the citizens of the USA. If some Ukrainian company is dumb enough to hire a moron, that's their own problem. The issue is Joe Biden's unethical behavior that Hunter was able to harness.
I'm going to vote for a president that works for the interests of the United States. (Something that Trump alone seems to be doing.) Typical of the NYT, they are deflecting negative attention away from Biden.
Even the extremely biased NY Times has to admit that Hunter Biden was unethical:
Hunter's behavior is unethical is hardly the issue. Are you saying Joe shouldn't be elected president because of his unethical son? No, the fundamental problem is Joe and his actions that were clearly on display.
We do not expect that foreign countries and foreign businesses will work towards the best interest of USA citizens, but we expect Joe Biden to do so when acting as an elected representative of the citizens of the USA. If some Ukrainian company is dumb enough to hire a moron, that's their own problem. The issue is Joe Biden's unethical behavior that Hunter was able to harness.
I'm going to vote for a president that works for the interests of the United States. (Something that Trump alone seems to be doing.) Typical of the NYT, they are deflecting negative attention away from Biden.
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Patrick
2019 Sep 22, 6:54pm
Patrick
2019 Sep 22, 6:54pm
SunnyvaleCA says
No, I'm saying that Joe shouldn't be elected because he deliberately manipulated Ukrainian politics to keep that $50,000 per month going to Hunter.
Are you saying Joe shouldn't be elected president because of his unethical son?
No, I'm saying that Joe shouldn't be elected because he deliberately manipulated Ukrainian politics to keep that $50,000 per month going to Hunter.
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marcus
2019 Sep 22, 7:02pm
marcus
2019 Sep 22, 7:02pm
Patrick says
Is that true, or did Hunter get hired for a job in becasue of connections without those connections actually making a difference. That is without any Obama quid pro Quo.
You have a major problem with that, but not the nepotism Trump has engaged in with Ivanka and Jared ?. That's surely going to mean a lot more to them career and $$wise in the long term than how Hunter benefited in that situation. And are they really the best people for those jobs ?
No, I'm saying that Joe shouldn't be elected because he deliberately manipulated Ukrainian politics to keep that $50,000 per month going to Hunter.
Is that true, or did Hunter get hired for a job in becasue of connections without those connections actually making a difference. That is without any Obama quid pro Quo.
You have a major problem with that, but not the nepotism Trump has engaged in with Ivanka and Jared ?. That's surely going to mean a lot more to them career and $$wise in the long term than how Hunter benefited in that situation. And are they really the best people for those jobs ?
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Sep 22, 7:15pm
marcus says
Please show us the video that is anywhere like that of Biden and his bragging about withholding government funds to produce an outcome for his son.
nepotism Trump has engaged in with Ivanka and Jared
Please show us the video that is anywhere like that of Biden and his bragging about withholding government funds to produce an outcome for his son.
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Sep 22, 7:17pm
Patrick says
SunnyvaleCA saysAs I suspected, we're on the same page here.Are you saying Joe shouldn't be elected president because of his unethical son?
No, I'm saying that Joe shouldn't be elected because he deliberately manipulated Ukrainian politics to keep that $50,000 per month going to Hunter.
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Patrick
2019 Sep 22, 7:23pm
Patrick
2019 Sep 22, 7:23pm
I do suspect that Trump's huge weapons deal with the Saudis, organized by Jared, resulted in some huge hidden payoff.
But I have no evidence, aside from Trump's sudden cozying up to Saudi Arabia after getting elected.
But I have no evidence, aside from Trump's sudden cozying up to Saudi Arabia after getting elected.
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Sep 22, 7:25pm
marcus says
If Ukrainian company wants to pay Hunter vast amounts of money for a fake job, let them. Congratulations Hunter! Of course it looks like a quid pro quo in the making, but I place far more blame on Joe than I do on Hunter.
An upstanding politician in Joe Biden's situation would have told Ukraine and the Ukrainian company... You hired my son who has no qualifications whatsoever except a connection to me. I am telling you right now that you will get no special treatment. In fact, he (and you) will be judged more critically. Dismiss him right now without consequence or be forever under a microscope.
Patrick saysNo, I'm saying that Joe shouldn't be elected because he deliberately manipulated Ukrainian politics to keep that $50,000 per month going to Hunter.
Is that true, or did Hunter get hired for a job in becasue of connections without those connections actually making a difference. That is without any Obama quid pro Quo.
If Ukrainian company wants to pay Hunter vast amounts of money for a fake job, let them. Congratulations Hunter! Of course it looks like a quid pro quo in the making, but I place far more blame on Joe than I do on Hunter.
An upstanding politician in Joe Biden's situation would have told Ukraine and the Ukrainian company... You hired my son who has no qualifications whatsoever except a connection to me. I am telling you right now that you will get no special treatment. In fact, he (and you) will be judged more critically. Dismiss him right now without consequence or be forever under a microscope.
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rdm
2019 Sep 22, 9:52pm
SunnyvaleCA says
Feel the same way about Ivanka getting her languishing trademarks approved from China? And this while she worked (s) for the US government. The conflicts of interest in Trump's administration start from the Pres and go down to the janitors. Where is the outrage? Oh its just Trump being Trump. Now he's sucking Saudi cock by providing a trip wire of service men ( women?) in KSA, justification to attack Iran when the inevitable US service members will be attacked maybe killed, probably by the Saudis but blamed on Iran. The Saudis "pay cash" so suck away Donnie your Saudi overlords demand it.
Honestly it seems pretty unlikely Biden will get the nomination, definitely past his prime. So as Biden fades so will this concocted scandal, on to more smears.
it looks like a quid pro quo in the making, but I place far more blame on Joe than I do on Hunter.
Feel the same way about Ivanka getting her languishing trademarks approved from China? And this while she worked (s) for the US government. The conflicts of interest in Trump's administration start from the Pres and go down to the janitors. Where is the outrage? Oh its just Trump being Trump. Now he's sucking Saudi cock by providing a trip wire of service men ( women?) in KSA, justification to attack Iran when the inevitable US service members will be attacked maybe killed, probably by the Saudis but blamed on Iran. The Saudis "pay cash" so suck away Donnie your Saudi overlords demand it.
Honestly it seems pretty unlikely Biden will get the nomination, definitely past his prime. So as Biden fades so will this concocted scandal, on to more smears.
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marcus
2019 Sep 22, 9:56pm
marcus
2019 Sep 22, 9:56pm
SunnyvaleCA says
Please show me about a video of Biden bragging about an outcome for his son, due to his actions relative to the Ukraine. That could not possibly exist.
Please show us the video that is anywhere like that of Biden and his bragging about withholding government funds to produce an outcome for his son
Please show me about a video of Biden bragging about an outcome for his son, due to his actions relative to the Ukraine. That could not possibly exist.
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Sep 23, 12:54am
marcus says
Um... actually, the video in question does show Biden bragging about an outcome from a threat of withholding a billion dollars of USA "aid." Left unsaid is that it was a great outcome for his son, but there's no reason to be excited about the outcome (for the USA citizens) and every reason to see it is an outcome great for his son.
SunnyvaleCA saysPlease show us the video that is anywhere like that of Biden and his bragging about withholding government funds to produce an outcome for his son
Please show me about a video of Biden bragging about an outcome for his son, due to his actions relative to the Ukraine. That could not possibly exist.
Um... actually, the video in question does show Biden bragging about an outcome from a threat of withholding a billion dollars of USA "aid." Left unsaid is that it was a great outcome for his son, but there's no reason to be excited about the outcome (for the USA citizens) and every reason to see it is an outcome great for his son.
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theoakman
2019 Sep 23, 4:46am
marcus says
So Trump's son holds a meeting with a Russian prior to election, and we should impeach? But VP Biden's son holds a high paying no show job in Ukraine and all is fine and dandy right?
SunnyvaleCA saysPlease show us the video that is anywhere like that of Biden and his bragging about withholding government funds to produce an outcome for his son
Please show me about a video of Biden bragging about an outcome for his son, due to his actions relative to the Ukraine. That could not possibly exist.
So Trump's son holds a meeting with a Russian prior to election, and we should impeach? But VP Biden's son holds a high paying no show job in Ukraine and all is fine and dandy right?
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marcus
2019 Sep 23, 6:25am
marcus
2019 Sep 23, 6:25am
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Last person said something that was provably incorrect, that he bragged in video about results for his sons benefit.
Now the Oakman says it was "no show job."
Actually your assumptions sound greater to me than the assumption that when Trumps son met with Russia it was to collude with Russians to get dirt on Hillary. I was not one to argue that that alone was impeachable offense for Trump, if indeed the meeting was all about the campaign. If sanctioned by daddy though ? I don't know.
Also, I agreed, this kind of corruption (if true that it was only a payment for access or favors) probably is a deal breaker with democrats
marcus says
Last person said something that was provably incorrect, that he bragged in video about results for his sons benefit.
Now the Oakman says it was "no show job."
Actually your assumptions sound greater to me than the assumption that when Trumps son met with Russia it was to collude with Russians to get dirt on Hillary. I was not one to argue that that alone was impeachable offense for Trump, if indeed the meeting was all about the campaign. If sanctioned by daddy though ? I don't know.
Also, I agreed, this kind of corruption (if true that it was only a payment for access or favors) probably is a deal breaker with democrats
marcus says
even if this kind of thing can actually be a political positive on the right, it isn't on the left.
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Onvacation
2019 Sep 23, 6:41am
Onvacation
2019 Sep 23, 6:41am
marcus says
Name the corruption and conflict you speak of. What did Trump do?
Not expecting an answer.
But I thought conflict of interest and corruption was what you guys like about Trump.
Name the corruption and conflict you speak of. What did Trump do?
Not expecting an answer.
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WookieMan
2019 Sep 23, 6:43am
WookieMan
2019 Sep 23, 6:43am
I don't even understand why Biden is considered a viable candidate. The dude struggles to speak. I don't care about this story at all and don't think most should. Every high level politician pulls strings to get family members jobs, that's old news.
I'm just seriously more concerned he's considered a contender at all in the Democrats primary process. Anyone with a functioning brain knows this too. This is why no one trusts polls or the media anymore. The guy is an old Mimbo.
I'm just seriously more concerned he's considered a contender at all in the Democrats primary process. Anyone with a functioning brain knows this too. This is why no one trusts polls or the media anymore. The guy is an old Mimbo.
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Shaman
2019 Sep 23, 7:10am
Shaman
2019 Sep 23, 7:10am
Biden won’t be the Democrat nominee. If you consider the polls, around 70% of the vote is for progressive candidates. So far, Warren and Sanders have been vying for the top Progressive slot, with warren pulling a bit ahead. Old Uncle Bernie isn’t as trusted by the rank and file as Warren is, fake Indian or not.
It’ll probably be Warren, and she’ll probably take on Bernie as a running mate to lock in his voters.
It’ll probably be Warren, and she’ll probably take on Bernie as a running mate to lock in his voters.
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rdm
2019 Sep 23, 8:29am
Onvacation says
Every time a foreign government or corporate interest stays in one of his hotels or plays a round of golf is at a minimum the appearance of a conflict of interest. The number of events is endless. Now one can argue its all innocent when the Saudis book a whole floor of his hotel for a month, and I am sure there is the belief by his supporters it is but all that shows is willful ignorance. Remember "The Saudis pay cash" He has done business worth millions and millions with them over the years by his own admission, he bragged about it and now he awaits his orders to direct our service men and women to fight their battles. To me it doesn't get more corrupt and conflicted than that.
Name the corruption and conflict you speak of.
Every time a foreign government or corporate interest stays in one of his hotels or plays a round of golf is at a minimum the appearance of a conflict of interest. The number of events is endless. Now one can argue its all innocent when the Saudis book a whole floor of his hotel for a month, and I am sure there is the belief by his supporters it is but all that shows is willful ignorance. Remember "The Saudis pay cash" He has done business worth millions and millions with them over the years by his own admission, he bragged about it and now he awaits his orders to direct our service men and women to fight their battles. To me it doesn't get more corrupt and conflicted than that.
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theoakman
2019 Sep 23, 8:30am
marcus says
Oh yeah...I'm sure good ol Hunter just spends much of his life in Ukraine serving on the board. I wonder if he speaks the language.
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Last person said something that was provably incorrect, that he bragged in video about results for his sons benefit.
Now the Oakman says it was "no show job."
Actually your assumptions sound greater to me than the assumption that when Trumps son met with Russia it was to collude with Russians to get dirt on Hillary. I was not one to argue that that alone was impeachable offense for Trump, if indeed the meeting was all about the campaign. If sanctioned by daddy though ? I don't know.
Also, I agreed, this kind of corruption (if true that it was only a payment for access or favors) probably is a deal breaker with democrats
marcus sayseven if this kind of thing can actually be a political positive on the right, it isn't on the left.
Oh yeah...I'm sure good ol Hunter just spends much of his life in Ukraine serving on the board. I wonder if he speaks the language.
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Ceffer
2019 Sep 23, 10:49am
Ceffer
2019 Sep 23, 10:49am
Did Biden Jr. smear himself with caviar and have Ukrainian hookers urinate on him like Trump? Maybe he should become Republican.
Russian and Ukrainian hookers who can pee eight feet in mighty geysers are especially prized as honey traps.
Russian and Ukrainian hookers who can pee eight feet in mighty geysers are especially prized as honey traps.
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Onvacation
2019 Sep 23, 12:05pm
Onvacation
2019 Sep 23, 12:05pm
rdm says
So you got nothing?
Onvacation saysName the corruption and conflict you speak of.
Every time a foreign government or corporate interest stays in one of his hotels or plays a round of golf
So you got nothing?
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Bd6r
2019 Sep 23, 12:10pm
Bd6r
2019 Sep 23, 12:10pm
I am sitting in airport so I am forced to listen to CNN. I advise Patnetters to occasinally tune in...it is ORANGEMANBAD 24/7. Now I just learned that Trump should be impeached because Bidens son took money from Ukraine
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Ceffer
2019 Sep 23, 12:12pm
Ceffer
2019 Sep 23, 12:12pm
6rdB says
You are clearly not a fan of impeccable logic.
Now I just learned that Trump should be impeached because Bidens son took money from Ukraine
You are clearly not a fan of impeccable logic.
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NDrLoR
2019 Sep 23, 12:52pm
NDrLoR
2019 Sep 23, 12:52pm
6rdB says
I am forced to listen to CNNWhen I owned a Nissan, while it was in warranty I'd take it to the dealership for its scheduled service. They had a huge wall-mounted TV always tuned to CNN. I'd sneak the remote away from the counter and change it to TCM as long as I was there.
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Onvacation
2019 Sep 23, 1:02pm
Onvacation
2019 Sep 23, 1:02pm
marcus says
Really? What about half the country who voted for Hillary, pay for play foundation, Clinton?
Why do Democrats have a problem with rich Republicans going into office but have no problem with Democrats getting rich in office?
Also, I agreed, this kind of corruption (if true that it was only a payment for access or favors) probably is a deal breaker with democrats
Really? What about half the country who voted for Hillary, pay for play foundation, Clinton?
Why do Democrats have a problem with rich Republicans going into office but have no problem with Democrats getting rich in office?
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Onvacation
2019 Sep 23, 6:19pm
Onvacation
2019 Sep 23, 6:19pm
rdm says
Can you list one high crime or misdemeanor our president has committed?
Onvacation saysSo you got nothing
Like was said, willfull ignorance.
Can you list one high crime or misdemeanor our president has committed?
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Sep 23, 7:11pm
Ceffer says
We have hookers, strip clubs, and cocaine, but that seems to be just in the USA. https://pagesix.com/2017/03/02/ex-claims-hunter-biden-blew-money-on-hookers-drugs/
Did Biden Jr. smear himself with caviar and have Ukrainian hookers urinate on him like Trump?
We have hookers, strip clubs, and cocaine, but that seems to be just in the USA. https://pagesix.com/2017/03/02/ex-claims-hunter-biden-blew-money-on-hookers-drugs/
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Sep 23, 7:22pm
rdm says
As for Trump making a quid pro quo fortune on dignitaries visiting his properties... I'm having a hard time believing his business are actually doing better. Many leftists actively avoid his properties. And, should a jetliner happen to nose-dive into one of them everyone will be avoiding the properties.
Feel the same way about Ivanka getting her languishing trademarks approved from China?China grants trademarks to Ivanka and Donald's "quo" part of quid pro quo: Trump starts a trade war with China. Hmmm.
As for Trump making a quid pro quo fortune on dignitaries visiting his properties... I'm having a hard time believing his business are actually doing better. Many leftists actively avoid his properties. And, should a jetliner happen to nose-dive into one of them everyone will be avoiding the properties.
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Sep 23, 7:38pm
Booger says
Reminds me of this blurb that played on TV during one of Stanford football games. It's pretty funny. Check it out with the sound turned on.
www.youtube.com/embed/IaHywTO6Fcs
Reminds me of this blurb that played on TV during one of Stanford football games. It's pretty funny. Check it out with the sound turned on.
www.youtube.com/embed/IaHywTO6Fcs
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Patrick
2019 Sep 23, 9:53pm
Patrick
2019 Sep 23, 9:53pm
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/09/23/actually-it-was-joe-biden-who-bribed-the-ukrainians-to-fire-a-prosecutor-n2553529
Actually, It Was Joe Biden Who Bribed the Ukrainians to Fire a Prosecutor Looking Into His Son
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rdm
2019 Sep 23, 10:12pm
SunnyvaleCA says
The trade marks were granted during the early days, you know when Trump and Xi were feeding each other that wonderful chocolate cake at Maralago. Sad, the trade war came later when Xi didn't roll over and beg for more cake. I guess trade wars aren't as easy to win as Donald thought.
China grants trademarks to Ivanka and Donald's "quo" part of quid pro quo: Trump starts a trade war with China. Hmmm.
The trade marks were granted during the early days, you know when Trump and Xi were feeding each other that wonderful chocolate cake at Maralago. Sad, the trade war came later when Xi didn't roll over and beg for more cake. I guess trade wars aren't as easy to win as Donald thought.
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rdm
2019 Sep 23, 10:19pm
SunnyvaleCA says
They always did. Remember Trump was a birther . Still waiting on that report from his investigators in Hawaii...
Many leftists actively avoid his properties.
They always did. Remember Trump was a birther . Still waiting on that report from his investigators in Hawaii...
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rdm
2019 Sep 23, 10:46pm
Patrick says
Not really, The time line doesn't work. The investigation was already dormant when Biden got involved. Here is the time line; the background of all this is the Russian annexation of Crimea and subsequent proxy war Russia started in Eastern Ukraine which included as one might remember the shooting down of a civilian airliner with Russian missiles.
What is perfectly clear and beyond dispute is that Trumps acting DNI is breaking the law by not forwarding the whistleblower complaint to Congress; but who cares when we can fantasize about Biden bribing a country.
The following timeline details key moments in the Biden family’s involvement in Ukrainian affairs and Trump’s effort to use those actions as political ammunition.
April 21, 2014: Biden, then vice president, visited Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, in a show of support for the country’s government amid rising tensions with Russia.
May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board. Around that time, Burisma’s founder, a former government official named Mykola Zlochevsky, was under investigation for alleged money laundering by Britain’s Serious Fraud Office.
Dec. 8, 2015: Biden visited Kiev again and spoke out against bureaucratic corruption that he said was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Biden threatened to withhold loan guarantees unless Ukraine’s top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had been widely accused of corruption, was removed.
Shokin had investigated Burisma but the probe was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the prosecutor’s termination, Bloomberg reported earlier this year, citing a former Ukrainian official.
March 29, 2016: The Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Shokin.
Jan. 23, 2018: Biden, at a Council on Foreign Relations event, detailed how he had threatened to withhold funds from Ukraine if Shokin was not removed.
April 2019: Hunter Biden’s term as a Burisma board member expired and he stepped down from the company.
May 11, 2019: Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, said he was canceling a planned trip to Ukraine. Giuliani came under criticism from Democratic lawmakers after saying in media interviews that he had planned to meet with Ukraine’s new leaders and push for investigations that could help Trump.
July 25, 2019: Trump spoke with Zelenskiy and reportedly pressured him to investigate Hunter Biden.
Aug. 12, 2019: A whistleblower from within the intelligence community lodged a complaint with a internal watchdog that reportedly focused on Trump’s contacts with Ukraine.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-timeline/timeline-key-dates-in-the-us-political-controversy-over-ukraine-idUSKBN1W82HK
Actually, It Was Joe Biden Who Bribed the Ukrainians to Fire a Prosecutor Looking Into His Son
Not really, The time line doesn't work. The investigation was already dormant when Biden got involved. Here is the time line; the background of all this is the Russian annexation of Crimea and subsequent proxy war Russia started in Eastern Ukraine which included as one might remember the shooting down of a civilian airliner with Russian missiles.
What is perfectly clear and beyond dispute is that Trumps acting DNI is breaking the law by not forwarding the whistleblower complaint to Congress; but who cares when we can fantasize about Biden bribing a country.
The following timeline details key moments in the Biden family’s involvement in Ukrainian affairs and Trump’s effort to use those actions as political ammunition.
April 21, 2014: Biden, then vice president, visited Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, in a show of support for the country’s government amid rising tensions with Russia.
May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board. Around that time, Burisma’s founder, a former government official named Mykola Zlochevsky, was under investigation for alleged money laundering by Britain’s Serious Fraud Office.
Dec. 8, 2015: Biden visited Kiev again and spoke out against bureaucratic corruption that he said was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Biden threatened to withhold loan guarantees unless Ukraine’s top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had been widely accused of corruption, was removed.
Shokin had investigated Burisma but the probe was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the prosecutor’s termination, Bloomberg reported earlier this year, citing a former Ukrainian official.
March 29, 2016: The Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Shokin.
Jan. 23, 2018: Biden, at a Council on Foreign Relations event, detailed how he had threatened to withhold funds from Ukraine if Shokin was not removed.
April 2019: Hunter Biden’s term as a Burisma board member expired and he stepped down from the company.
May 11, 2019: Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, said he was canceling a planned trip to Ukraine. Giuliani came under criticism from Democratic lawmakers after saying in media interviews that he had planned to meet with Ukraine’s new leaders and push for investigations that could help Trump.
July 25, 2019: Trump spoke with Zelenskiy and reportedly pressured him to investigate Hunter Biden.
Aug. 12, 2019: A whistleblower from within the intelligence community lodged a complaint with a internal watchdog that reportedly focused on Trump’s contacts with Ukraine.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-timeline/timeline-key-dates-in-the-us-political-controversy-over-ukraine-idUSKBN1W82HK
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Onvacation
2019 Sep 24, 5:52am
Onvacation
2019 Sep 24, 5:52am
rdm says
So Biden got his son a job.
April 21, 2014: Biden, then vice president, visited Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, in a show of support for the country’s government amid rising tensions with Russia.
May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board.
So Biden got his son a job.
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WookieMan
2019 Sep 24, 6:36am
WookieMan
2019 Sep 24, 6:36am
Onvacation says
Yup, and so did Trump for his family. I don't understand why this is news. Until nepotism is illegal, this all doesn't matter. Or if there's proof someone committed an illegal act, outside of the appearance of it because they got work for a family member.
If anyone here runs a business with 10+ employees you understand the pressure from family and friends that ask to have a job because you're the owner. It's gotta be one of the top 5 annoyances (not problems necessarily) of running a business or getting into public life in government. People and especially family and friends all want a hand out. You gotta do your job and then deal with all the noise.
rdm saysApril 21, 2014: Biden, then vice president, visited Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, in a show of support for the country’s government amid rising tensions with Russia.
May 13, 2014: Burisma Group, a private company that has drilled for natural gas in Ukraine since 2002, announced that Hunter Biden would be joining its board.
So Biden got his son a job.
Yup, and so did Trump for his family. I don't understand why this is news. Until nepotism is illegal, this all doesn't matter. Or if there's proof someone committed an illegal act, outside of the appearance of it because they got work for a family member.
If anyone here runs a business with 10+ employees you understand the pressure from family and friends that ask to have a job because you're the owner. It's gotta be one of the top 5 annoyances (not problems necessarily) of running a business or getting into public life in government. People and especially family and friends all want a hand out. You gotta do your job and then deal with all the noise.
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Onvacation
2019 Sep 24, 3:29pm
Onvacation
2019 Sep 24, 3:29pm
jazz_music says
She's really slurring her speech; botox or vodka?
Speaker Pelosi announces the formal investigation to impeach Trump
www.youtube.com/embed/wKX7gCflYNo
She's really slurring her speech; botox or vodka?
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mell
2019 Sep 24, 3:38pm
Onvacation says
It's likely the botox hardening and paralyzing the necessary muscles.
jazz_music saysSpeaker Pelosi announces the formal investigation to impeach Trump
www.youtube.com/embed/wKX7gCflYNo
She's really slurring her speech; botox or vodka?
It's likely the botox hardening and paralyzing the necessary muscles.
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Even the extremely biased NY Times has to admit that Hunter Biden was unethical:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/us/politics/trump-whistle-blower-ukraine.html
It was right of Trump to call for investigation of Hunter Biden. He should also figure out who in his administration is spying on him for the benefit of corrupt Democrats.