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Kiss democracy goodbye as Democrats undermine the 2016 election result
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2019 Oct 12, 1:32pm 633 views 31 comments
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Patrick
2019 Oct 12, 3:03pm
Patrick
2019 Oct 12, 3:03pm
jazz_music says
Are we in any new wars? No.
Has the job situation greatly improved? Yes.
Has the stock market gone up? Yes.
You can verify those points easily.
Your key mistake is believing that Trump is doing something real for us.
Are we in any new wars? No.
Has the job situation greatly improved? Yes.
Has the stock market gone up? Yes.
You can verify those points easily.
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BayArea
2019 Oct 12, 3:14pm
BayArea
2019 Oct 12, 3:14pm
jazz_music says
Severe TDS
Are we not at war still in so many places?
Was massive debt not taken on for paltry results?
Are those jobs not lower quality jobs and more temporary with less benefits?
Sure, it’s all true.
Why cling to such grandiose claims then?
Severe TDS
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Patrick
2019 Oct 12, 3:15pm
Patrick
2019 Oct 12, 3:15pm
jazz_music says
Did Trump start any of those? Nope. In fact, he has been pulling out troops, and the Democrats are criticizing him for it.
The economy speaks for itself.
Are we not at war still in so many places?
Did Trump start any of those? Nope. In fact, he has been pulling out troops, and the Democrats are criticizing him for it.
The economy speaks for itself.
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CBOEtrader
2019 Oct 12, 3:19pm
CBOEtrader
2019 Oct 12, 3:19pm
jazz_music says
Trump was just criticized by your masters for pulling out if Syria. Do you agree w Trump or w CNN?
How many wars did Obama start? What about Bush? Now compare Trump.
At some point you have to admit Trump is at least better than anything we've had for decades.
Are we not at war still in so many places?
Trump was just criticized by your masters for pulling out if Syria. Do you agree w Trump or w CNN?
How many wars did Obama start? What about Bush? Now compare Trump.
At some point you have to admit Trump is at least better than anything we've had for decades.
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Patrick
2019 Oct 12, 7:57pm
Patrick
2019 Oct 12, 7:57pm
The idea behind patrick.net is that people can say what they want, however offensive, as long as they don't directly insult the other users or the site itself.
I think @jazz_music is sincere in his opinions, not just saying them to get a reaction, therefore not a troll. I disagree with him, but also feel he has the right to his opinions. He doesn't usually insult any of the other users.
So I'm treating him as I wish to be treated.
I think @jazz_music is sincere in his opinions, not just saying them to get a reaction, therefore not a troll. I disagree with him, but also feel he has the right to his opinions. He doesn't usually insult any of the other users.
So I'm treating him as I wish to be treated.
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marcus
2019 Oct 12, 8:31pm
marcus
2019 Oct 12, 8:31pm
Patrick says
Good on you.
Besides, the retard TRump Cucks have the sane people outnumbered on this site, by a lot.
Most have left long ago, for reasons that are obvious to anyone with any sense. The ignorance and trolling from overseas paid assholes gets very tiring
Ten years ago there were still a lot of cool people on this site. It's changed. Some people have been through some shit that changed them for the worse. Others just left.
So I'm treating him as I wish to be treated.
Good on you.
Besides, the retard TRump Cucks have the sane people outnumbered on this site, by a lot.
Most have left long ago, for reasons that are obvious to anyone with any sense. The ignorance and trolling from overseas paid assholes gets very tiring
Ten years ago there were still a lot of cool people on this site. It's changed. Some people have been through some shit that changed them for the worse. Others just left.
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CBOEtrader
2019 Oct 12, 8:34pm
CBOEtrader
2019 Oct 12, 8:34pm
Patrick wouldn't ban jazz, nor should he. Use the ignore button if needed
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marcus
2019 Oct 12, 8:36pm
marcus
2019 Oct 12, 8:36pm
I'm assuming there aren't that many Americans that are that fucking stupid.
And yes. Russia runs huge trolling operations.
And yes. Russia runs huge trolling operations.
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marcus
2019 Oct 12, 8:37pm
marcus
2019 Oct 12, 8:37pm
CBOEtrader says
"b-b-b-but I want this to be a complete and total right wing fascist echo chamber !"
88% isn't enough.
nor should he
"b-b-b-but I want this to be a complete and total right wing fascist echo chamber !"
88% isn't enough.
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2019 Oct 12, 8:43pm
Trump supporters are the same once these days.
It’s leftists who run around with anti white propaganda and agenda these days.
It’s left who wants to replace white people and eliminate.
It’s left prompting sexual vices to minors.
marcus says
It’s leftists who run around with anti white propaganda and agenda these days.
It’s left who wants to replace white people and eliminate.
It’s left prompting sexual vices to minors.
marcus says
Patrick saysSo I'm treating him as I wish to be treated.
Good on you.
Besides, the retard TRump Cucks have the sane people outnumbered on this site, by a lot.
Most have left long ago, for reasons that are obvious to anyone with any sense. The ignorance and trolling from overseas paid assholes gets very tiring
Ten years ago there were still a lot of cool people on this site. It's changed. Some people have been through some shit that changed them for the worse. Others just left.
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marcus
2019 Oct 12, 8:45pm
marcus
2019 Oct 12, 8:45pm
Fortwaynemobile says
This is the kind who who I assume is a russian troll. No human, even totally ignorant could hold such beliefs.
OH yeah. Ignorant hate. That's some powerful shit right there.
It’s left who wants to replace white people and eliminate.
It’s left prompting sexual vices to minors.
This is the kind who who I assume is a russian troll. No human, even totally ignorant could hold such beliefs.
OH yeah. Ignorant hate. That's some powerful shit right there.
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Onvacation
2019 Oct 12, 8:58pm
Onvacation
2019 Oct 12, 8:58pm
TrumpingTits says
Where's the fun in that?
delete this asshole's account and all of his posts as well as a block on all the IP addresses the fucker has used in the past to access PatNet.
Where's the fun in that?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Oct 12, 9:13pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Oct 12, 9:13pm
marcus says
Everything FortWayne discusses is confirmed in https://hiddentribes.us/
Progressive Activists even hate White People more than any other group.
The irony is the Progressive Activists are the Whitest Group (80%), more so than even the Traditional Conservatives (79% White) and only behind Devoted Conservatives (88% White). And this is self-reported! So it's pretty clear that the Core Dem Base is self-hating.
This is the kind who who I assume is a russian troll. No human, even totally ignorant could hold such beliefs.
OH yeah. Ignorant hate. That's some powerful shit right there.
Everything FortWayne discusses is confirmed in https://hiddentribes.us/
Progressive Activists even hate White People more than any other group.
The irony is the Progressive Activists are the Whitest Group (80%), more so than even the Traditional Conservatives (79% White) and only behind Devoted Conservatives (88% White). And this is self-reported! So it's pretty clear that the Core Dem Base is self-hating.
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mell
2019 Oct 13, 1:26am
TrumpingTits says
It wouldn't be a free speech site if Patrick started banning people. One of the main gripes you hear from some of the left on this site is that there used to be more "useful", "intelligent" etc. contributors on here but they left the site because "right-wingers", some even claimed unfair moderation. What really happened is that Patrick gave everyone free speech on here and after a few that couldn't take Trump's win left right away many more in the middle were swayed towards recognizing the insanity the leftoids have become today. So we currently have a broader consensus that todays globohomo left is def worse than Trump, even for many who can't stand him. I call this a success of free discourse, albeit on a small scale. There's no better - and due to the insanity of the modern left easier - way to convince somebody than a quick and easy counter to their mindless virtue signaling.
jazz_music saysHey Tits, ever thought of contributing substantial thought and writing here?
Oh stop the sucking up to Patrick. And stop the projection.
It wouldn't be a free speech site if Patrick started banning people. One of the main gripes you hear from some of the left on this site is that there used to be more "useful", "intelligent" etc. contributors on here but they left the site because "right-wingers", some even claimed unfair moderation. What really happened is that Patrick gave everyone free speech on here and after a few that couldn't take Trump's win left right away many more in the middle were swayed towards recognizing the insanity the leftoids have become today. So we currently have a broader consensus that todays globohomo left is def worse than Trump, even for many who can't stand him. I call this a success of free discourse, albeit on a small scale. There's no better - and due to the insanity of the modern left easier - way to convince somebody than a quick and easy counter to their mindless virtue signaling.
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mell
2019 Oct 13, 1:31am
Btw. I can see same rift in the common population and I project a win for Trump in 2020 if he stays in office.
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Hircus
2019 Oct 13, 8:01am
Hircus
2019 Oct 13, 8:01am
mell says
Agreed. I recall seeing at least a handful of people on this site that have expressed a sentiment reasonably similar to this.
we currently have a broader consensus that todays globohomo left is def worse than Trump, even for many who can't stand him.
Agreed. I recall seeing at least a handful of people on this site that have expressed a sentiment reasonably similar to this.
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marcus
2019 Oct 13, 8:23am
marcus
2019 Oct 13, 8:23am
Patrick says
Sure I'll admit that hes a good conman, and that he knew how to get elected, in part by tapping into our worst demons (as opposed to our better angels).
I'll even go a step further in admitting endless fascination of those that constantly bend over backwards to defend him, lying over and over and over and over again about the amazing increase of manufacturing jobs since 2016, due to Trump.
Come on Democrats. Give up on hate and admit that Trump is right about the devastation of the working class which got him elected
Sure I'll admit that hes a good conman, and that he knew how to get elected, in part by tapping into our worst demons (as opposed to our better angels).
I'll even go a step further in admitting endless fascination of those that constantly bend over backwards to defend him, lying over and over and over and over again about the amazing increase of manufacturing jobs since 2016, due to Trump.
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marcus
2019 Oct 13, 8:29am
marcus
2019 Oct 13, 8:29am
I just replaced that graph with the most current one (also showing it further back).
THe actual manufacturing data doesn't look nearly as bad, becasue the bigger cause of manufacturing jobs losses was automation. All the "hand made" type manufacturing jobs that were exported, were exported long ago, decades before Trump, and even Trumps own companies use these.
All the lies about Trumps policies are so blatant and so stupid, it's almost as if what Trump actually tapped in to was ignorance, hate and racism. The rest is just cover, becasue it's hard to admit what it is they actually like about him (that he's an asshole).
The lesson to all of us should be, just imagine if economic times got much worse, is it not obvious how easily fascism would arise ?
THe actual manufacturing data doesn't look nearly as bad, becasue the bigger cause of manufacturing jobs losses was automation. All the "hand made" type manufacturing jobs that were exported, were exported long ago, decades before Trump, and even Trumps own companies use these.
All the lies about Trumps policies are so blatant and so stupid, it's almost as if what Trump actually tapped in to was ignorance, hate and racism. The rest is just cover, becasue it's hard to admit what it is they actually like about him (that he's an asshole).
The lesson to all of us should be, just imagine if economic times got much worse, is it not obvious how easily fascism would arise ?
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Oct 13, 9:00am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Oct 13, 9:00am
We're at war Patrick you need to start deleting subversive posts that serve to undermine our president, and spread misinformation.
If these shitbirds want to read that kind of Shit they can go to Huffington post.
If these shitbirds want to read that kind of Shit they can go to Huffington post.
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RC2006
2019 Oct 13, 9:16am
RC2006
2019 Oct 13, 9:16am
Tenpoundbass says
If patrick did that it would turn into a boring echo chamber and they are needed to remind us just how crazy dems are.
We're at war Patrick you need to start deleting subversive posts that serve to undermine our president, and spread misinformation.
If these shitbirds want to read that kind of Shit they can go to Huffington post.
If patrick did that it would turn into a boring echo chamber and they are needed to remind us just how crazy dems are.
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Hircus
2019 Oct 13, 9:57am
Hircus
2019 Oct 13, 9:57am
marcus says
I can see why a serious economic fall could make people become more pro usa, anti competing countries, but I don't see why people would suddenly want a dictator? Is it because you feel ppl might lose all faith in govt and want to try something new and extreme?
The lesson to all of us should be, just imagine if economic times got much worse, is it not obvious how easily fascism would arise ?
I can see why a serious economic fall could make people become more pro usa, anti competing countries, but I don't see why people would suddenly want a dictator? Is it because you feel ppl might lose all faith in govt and want to try something new and extreme?
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marcus
2019 Oct 13, 10:21am
marcus
2019 Oct 13, 10:21am
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RC2006 says
Yeah, those crazy dems, with their reality based opinions.
RC2006 says
remind us just how crazy dems are
Yeah, those crazy dems, with their reality based opinions.
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marcus
2019 Oct 13, 10:30am
marcus
2019 Oct 13, 10:30am
marcus says
You can see it in the evil and polarization that's already here.
Tenpoundbass says
how easily fascism would arise ?
You can see it in the evil and polarization that's already here.
Tenpoundbass says
We're at war Patrick you need to start deleting subversive posts that serve to undermine our president, and spread misinformation.
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Bd6r
2019 Oct 13, 10:54am
Bd6r
2019 Oct 13, 10:54am
mell says
I would not call this "globo homo" - it is likely 0.00001%-ers who push the agenda which for some reason is now called left - but I 100% agree with sentiment. Trump even though I do not like him, is much better than the alternative, which was "more of the same which did not work for 99.9% of population". I can look at trUMP as a human hand grenade that hopefully will change something, although I have my doubts.
many more in the middle were swayed towards recognizing the insanity the leftoids have become today. So we currently have a broader consensus that todays globohomo left is def worse than Trump, even for many who can't stand him.
I would not call this "globo homo" - it is likely 0.00001%-ers who push the agenda which for some reason is now called left - but I 100% agree with sentiment. Trump even though I do not like him, is much better than the alternative, which was "more of the same which did not work for 99.9% of population". I can look at trUMP as a human hand grenade that hopefully will change something, although I have my doubts.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Oct 13, 1:26pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Oct 13, 1:26pm
mell says
It was insisting personal insults were stopped. That's what caused the quitting, the TDS sufferers couldn't find rational reasons to justify their absolute outrage, but weren't allowed ad homs anymore.
What really happened is that Patrick gave everyone free speech on here
It was insisting personal insults were stopped. That's what caused the quitting, the TDS sufferers couldn't find rational reasons to justify their absolute outrage, but weren't allowed ad homs anymore.
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UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Mar 25, 4:33pm
UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2024 Mar 25, 4:33pm
MisdemeanorRebel says
I figure it was because those of us who called them out on their shit wouldn't be censored, er...'moderated' on the first place.
On sites like MoveOn.org, etc. posts get deleted before those intended to see them even get a chance to actually see them. So it is quite shocking for them when they encounter a non-censored site.
They hate what happened to Twitter.
It was insisting personal insults were stopped. That's what caused the quitting, the TDS sufferers couldn't find rational reasons to justify their absolute outrage, but weren't allowed ad homs anymore.
I figure it was because those of us who called them out on their shit wouldn't be censored, er...'moderated' on the first place.
On sites like MoveOn.org, etc. posts get deleted before those intended to see them even get a chance to actually see them. So it is quite shocking for them when they encounter a non-censored site.
They hate what happened to Twitter.
Democrats are attacking the very foundation of the country to benefit their wealthy corporate donors.
They are the threat to the Constitution, and this is why they project that accusation onto Trump. They know it, and it's at the top of mind for them. They are being evil, but this causes cognitive dissonance, so they project it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection?source=patrick.net
Come on Democrats. Give up on hate and admit that Trump is right about the devastation of the working class which got him elected.
Stop promoting sodomy as normal and get back to representing working class US citizens. Be tough on China, and be tough on illegal immigration.
Then your "Trump problem" will magically go away. Trump was not elected because people love him personally, but only because he has the guts to stand up and tell the truth about the country being bled dry by globo-homo for profit. A reasonable Democrat who puts the working class first will have absolutely no problem getting elected. Unfortunately, there aren't any in the race. At least not yet. Even Tulsi Gabbard succumbed to TDS and lost sight of the central issue: capital vs labor, same as it's ever been.