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If the cost to build, cost of land and permit fees are so bleeding expensive like they are now, how could more housing be built at affordable prices?

These two groups, single-family neighbors and socialist, have married for convenience in the political arena and their child is the notion of “affordability.” The first group opposes new market rate housing because it will hurt them economically even though their stated reasons are a rhetorical distraction from that fact

Basically, the one core point I've been using to respond to 90% of the articles you post here, @tovarichpeter.

Affordable housing is subsidized housing. That would translate to under market pay to these folks.
Employers are the real winners by not paying market rates.
Property owners are winning as the developer move the cost to un subsidized units and bump up the price.
Politicians are winning as keep selling sugar coating affordable housing, though its very small percentage.
Media is winning with ads.
The real loser are general population.

exactly, supply demand!

Affordable housing is a housing supply that is not artificially limited to increase demand I.e. high density housing.

tovarichpeter says

Affordable housing is a housing supply that is not artificially limited to increase demand I.e. high density housing.

Fuck congestion.

Plenty of empty land, why aren’t they building there?

Hint: because they don’t own that land and won’t make a killing from improvements.

tovarichpeter says

Affordable housing is a housing supply that is not artificially limited to increase demand I.e. high density housing.

Because agenda 21

Housing is grossly underpriced in the states.

We need fewer people.

What price is considered AFFORDABLE (a number please)......Another question that wont be answered...lol
Lets talk affordable housing but dont actually pin us down to real prices...It'll ruin my surf and turf lunch meeting.

komputodo says

What price is considered AFFORDABLE (a number please)......Another question that wont be answered...lol
Lets talk affordable housing but dont actually pin us down to real prices...It'll ruin my surf and turf lunch meeting.

Average wage in LA County is $63k a year. I don’t know what average household income is, and I think it’s an unfair measure due to a million illegal aliens in LA County.

But let’s say the average middle class family in LA makes $100k a year. Not a number completely pulled out of my ass, but close. That means an average home in an average neighborhood would need to be around $350-450k to be “affordable”. We are in no way shape or form close to that number and all the govt subsidies in the universe won’t get us there.

Which is why you see so many people leaving and the other western metro areas that truly are affordable increase in population.

The headline in a SJ Mercury article this morning, "Exodus Stalls Bay Area Growth". Yes I read the article. Not going to put a link due to the paywall.

People, jobs, opportunities.

What's Left Behind here is the Opportunity to pay too much for housing, pay too much taxes, spend too much time in traffic. That's an Opportunity to Fail.

so $400k is affordable? wow..that sure isn't going to help the homeless

If you can't pay cash, it's unaffordable.

Still, as long as one person in the United States can afford to live indoors, housing is underpriced.

komputodo says

so $400k is affordable? wow..that sure isn't going to help the homeless

What kind of skills, jobs, and work ethic do those people generally have? Seems like hunter/gatherer lifestyle is about right.

SunnyvaleCA says

What kind of skills, jobs, and work ethic do those people generally have? Seems like hunter/gatherer lifestyle is about right.

Petty theft, begging, and dumpster diving is their main source of income.

Onvacation says

SunnyvaleCA says

What kind of skills, jobs, and work ethic do those people generally have? Seems like hunter/gatherer lifestyle is about right.

Petty theft, begging, and dumpster diving is their main source of income.

Don't forget prostitution.

WineHorror1 says

Don't forget prostitution.

Being Trans is SO not a mental illness.