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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2020 Jan 12, 12:00pm
Lesson I think is to not work for companies that demote for conservative thought... provided one has luxury of choice.
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Patrick
2020 Jan 12, 12:15pm
Patrick
2020 Jan 12, 12:15pm
BTW, here's the article that got him in so much trouble:
https://quillette.com/2018/06/19/why-women-dont-code/
It's very good.
https://quillette.com/2018/06/19/why-women-dont-code/
It's very good.
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Patrick
2020 Jan 12, 12:24pm
Patrick
2020 Jan 12, 12:24pm
And the article mentions this book, which also looks like it probably has good explanatory power:
"The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt
https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777/ref=sr_1_1
"The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt
https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777/ref=sr_1_1
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Karloff
2020 Jan 12, 1:14pm
Karloff
2020 Jan 12, 1:14pm
From the article:
The answer to this is simple. These people have been fed a litany of lies for their entire life to the point where they believe the lies to be truth, in an almost religious cult-like manner. When confronted with a reality that contradicts the gospel of lies, the brain can't comprehend that notion that what they so strongly "know" to be true may in fact not be. This possibility is immediately discarded before further processing. Logic can't handle it, and the result is a redirect to the emotional response unit where it manifests as anger and hatred.
Look at the disturbing responses by some of the co-workers:
“Is it our job to make someone with those opinions feel welcome? I’m not sure whether academic freedom dictates that.”
Remember, these are the same people that demand diversity and inclusiveness. All of a sudden they are advocating for the complete opposite.
“If he comes here, we’ll hurt him.”
She's NOT joking. These people repeatedly display a want for violence against those who are influential and refuse to be part of the collective.
In short, there is a large part of the population that believes what they're told to believe by those who are in a position to feed them information (media, educators, politicians, entertainers). They've been conditioned to see these outlets as authorities and to not question them. These outlets are controlled through funding by a small number of people with very large wallets. It has been this way for a very, very long time. What's different now is the message that's being fed is increasingly more harmful and hostile.
Follow the money. Who pays the mouthpieces to repeat the dogma and what is their benefit from it?
I have tried to understand why Damore’s opinions generated such anger
The answer to this is simple. These people have been fed a litany of lies for their entire life to the point where they believe the lies to be truth, in an almost religious cult-like manner. When confronted with a reality that contradicts the gospel of lies, the brain can't comprehend that notion that what they so strongly "know" to be true may in fact not be. This possibility is immediately discarded before further processing. Logic can't handle it, and the result is a redirect to the emotional response unit where it manifests as anger and hatred.
Look at the disturbing responses by some of the co-workers:
“Is it our job to make someone with those opinions feel welcome? I’m not sure whether academic freedom dictates that.”
Remember, these are the same people that demand diversity and inclusiveness. All of a sudden they are advocating for the complete opposite.
“If he comes here, we’ll hurt him.”
She's NOT joking. These people repeatedly display a want for violence against those who are influential and refuse to be part of the collective.
In short, there is a large part of the population that believes what they're told to believe by those who are in a position to feed them information (media, educators, politicians, entertainers). They've been conditioned to see these outlets as authorities and to not question them. These outlets are controlled through funding by a small number of people with very large wallets. It has been this way for a very, very long time. What's different now is the message that's being fed is increasingly more harmful and hostile.
Follow the money. Who pays the mouthpieces to repeat the dogma and what is their benefit from it?
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Shaman
2020 Jan 12, 6:28pm
Shaman
2020 Jan 12, 6:28pm
Going to quote an excerpt from the article that led me to consider an additional conclusion:
“ They concluded that women may choose non-STEM careers because they have academic strengths that many men lack. They found that individuals with high math ability but only moderate verbal ability were the most likely to choose a career in STEM (49 percent) and that this group included more men than women (70 percent men). By contrast, individuals with both high math ability and high verbal ability were less likely to pursue a career in STEM (34 percent) and this group had more women than men (63 percent women). They write that, “Our study provides evidence that it is not lack of ability that causes females to pursue non-STEM careers, but rather the greater likelihood that females with high math ability also have high verbal ability and thus can consider a wider range of occupations.”
So basically, the smart women who have high math AND verbal reasoning skills aren’t interested in coding. They find that they’re more suited to other jobs. I believe my wife is one of these types, having had a lot of science and math, but gravitated towards more interpersonal activities in her career as a dietician and now a professor. All nag the way she’s become known for website design. Her colleagues and co-chairs on various committees hold her work in high regard, for its aesthetic appeal and intuitive functionality .
Yet coding holds very little appeal for her. She’s rather use a program that lets you drag and drop and organize a page without having to get into the code. Fortunately, there are quite a few out there.
I think we need people with aesthetic and social ability in computer science to balance out the uber nerds who tend to think in more esoteric terms, leaving out the social and aesthetic appeal of the product unless called out on this by someone who holds that sort of intelligence and can do that sort of work.
So yes, there’s a place for women, even non-nerdy women in tech. They can help create the interface where the product meets the public.
Apple rose to dominance on this very concept: that the product should be user friendly, intuitive to use, and aesthetically pleasing.
“ They concluded that women may choose non-STEM careers because they have academic strengths that many men lack. They found that individuals with high math ability but only moderate verbal ability were the most likely to choose a career in STEM (49 percent) and that this group included more men than women (70 percent men). By contrast, individuals with both high math ability and high verbal ability were less likely to pursue a career in STEM (34 percent) and this group had more women than men (63 percent women). They write that, “Our study provides evidence that it is not lack of ability that causes females to pursue non-STEM careers, but rather the greater likelihood that females with high math ability also have high verbal ability and thus can consider a wider range of occupations.”
So basically, the smart women who have high math AND verbal reasoning skills aren’t interested in coding. They find that they’re more suited to other jobs. I believe my wife is one of these types, having had a lot of science and math, but gravitated towards more interpersonal activities in her career as a dietician and now a professor. All nag the way she’s become known for website design. Her colleagues and co-chairs on various committees hold her work in high regard, for its aesthetic appeal and intuitive functionality .
Yet coding holds very little appeal for her. She’s rather use a program that lets you drag and drop and organize a page without having to get into the code. Fortunately, there are quite a few out there.
I think we need people with aesthetic and social ability in computer science to balance out the uber nerds who tend to think in more esoteric terms, leaving out the social and aesthetic appeal of the product unless called out on this by someone who holds that sort of intelligence and can do that sort of work.
So yes, there’s a place for women, even non-nerdy women in tech. They can help create the interface where the product meets the public.
Apple rose to dominance on this very concept: that the product should be user friendly, intuitive to use, and aesthetically pleasing.
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Ceffer
2020 Jan 22, 10:16am
Ceffer
2020 Jan 22, 10:16am
Drag and drop? Does this require a plastic surgeon? No wonder women don't code. More cosmetically attractive euphemisms, please.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 16, 8:47pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 May 16, 8:47pm
Democrats don't believe in Free Speech anymore.
It was only a ploy. In the 60s, to allow radicals to obtain a voice. By the late 70s, as radical left activism and terrorism began to decline due to boomers graduating colleges and forming families and moving to the burbs, Leftist Academics began turning more and more to Marcuse and Gramsci, believing that minority views had to be amplified & promoted, not just tolerated, which Marcuse called "Fake Tolerance" but what is really just "Tolerance". That's how we got to the elimination of Value Judgements with Multiculturalism ("All Cultures are Equal") and Political Correctness in the early 90s, which then became more extreme with Social Justice, Inclusion, and Intersectional Ideologies.
The anti-democratic AND anti-liberty ideals of the postmodern, post-Marxist Left I believe, however, have peaked.
Much of the Millennial Madness was driven by Urbanization (the reverse of "Back to the Land" of Hippies), Affluenza (idealized view of Muslims/Blacks/Turd Worlders from growing up in upscale, minimally diverse well-off suburbs), and peak radical tenured Boomers in Academia + highest college attendance.
It will take about 20 years, but Demographics pretty much spell the death knell for Post-Modernism; Trans Activist Cat Lady/SoyBoys simply don't reproduce.
The Boomers were the last generation where there wasn't a large gap between Secular/Atheists, Mainstream Religious, and more Fundamental Religious people. The birthrate differences between the non-religious and religious (even if they are not regular church goers, but self-described adherents) is large and growing, and has been taking off since the 90s. This is as true of Christians and Jews as it is of Muslims (however, NOT of Buddhists, who now have the lowest birthrates worldwide by religion).
It was only a ploy. In the 60s, to allow radicals to obtain a voice. By the late 70s, as radical left activism and terrorism began to decline due to boomers graduating colleges and forming families and moving to the burbs, Leftist Academics began turning more and more to Marcuse and Gramsci, believing that minority views had to be amplified & promoted, not just tolerated, which Marcuse called "Fake Tolerance" but what is really just "Tolerance". That's how we got to the elimination of Value Judgements with Multiculturalism ("All Cultures are Equal") and Political Correctness in the early 90s, which then became more extreme with Social Justice, Inclusion, and Intersectional Ideologies.
The anti-democratic AND anti-liberty ideals of the postmodern, post-Marxist Left I believe, however, have peaked.
Much of the Millennial Madness was driven by Urbanization (the reverse of "Back to the Land" of Hippies), Affluenza (idealized view of Muslims/Blacks/Turd Worlders from growing up in upscale, minimally diverse well-off suburbs), and peak radical tenured Boomers in Academia + highest college attendance.
It will take about 20 years, but Demographics pretty much spell the death knell for Post-Modernism; Trans Activist Cat Lady/SoyBoys simply don't reproduce.
The Boomers were the last generation where there wasn't a large gap between Secular/Atheists, Mainstream Religious, and more Fundamental Religious people. The birthrate differences between the non-religious and religious (even if they are not regular church goers, but self-described adherents) is large and growing, and has been taking off since the 90s. This is as true of Christians and Jews as it is of Muslims (however, NOT of Buddhists, who now have the lowest birthrates worldwide by religion).
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2020 May 16, 8:52pm
It does feel like CA went full circle, gays got into power and are fucking normal people from every legislative angle they can.
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AD
2020 May 16, 8:58pm
AD
2020 May 16, 8:58pm
Patrick says
All of this was foretold in the 1980's book titled "The Closing of the American Mind".
I am concerned that people believe free speech is improving on college campuses when in fact things are getting worse.
All of this was foretold in the 1980's book titled "The Closing of the American Mind".
https://heterodoxacademy.org/